Mavs off-season and draft 2023 thread - Page 23 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

EricaLubarsky · 06-22-2023, 10:25 PM

Best news of tonight:

MLE for Grant Williams
Starting PF and DFS replacement
Richaun Holmes as backup 4/5
Tyson Chandler starter kit
No more Powell starting

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-22-2023, 10:26 PM

Minny got Miller at 33. Total steal there.

tap2390 · 06-22-2023, 10:27 PM

12/ 24/ Holmes for 10/ Bertans.... don't think I could have drawn that up any better in 2K

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-22-2023, 10:33 PM

Who woulda thought we would stick to building through the draft and not trading for vets? Finally learning...

tap2390 · 06-22-2023, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Who woulda thought we would stick to building through the draft and not trading for vets? Finally learning...

Haha maybe Cuban's upcoming Kyrie bill changed his mind about the draft.

SMC0007 · 06-22-2023, 10:41 PM

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Haha maybe Cuban's upcoming Kyrie bill changed his mind about the draft.

And amount of outgoing picks ahead

Dtownsfinest · 06-22-2023, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Who woulda thought we would stick to building through the draft and not trading for vets? Finally learning...

Shocked they didn?t. They seemed set on doing so.

Melonhead · 06-23-2023, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Who woulda thought we would stick to building through the draft and not trading for vets? Finally learning...

Cubans reluctance to spend market price on non all stars is finally paying off, new cba is scary

And he let Nico do his fn job.

Legit happy about the team again.

tap2390 · 06-22-2023, 10:34 PM

OMP had:

-the fourth fastest lane agility time at the combine;
-the third fastest shuttle run;
-the second highest standing vertical leap; and
-the third highest max vertical leap

sig · 06-22-2023, 10:43 PM

I probabaly would of taken Miller or TJD over Prosper but Prosper is legity prospect whose scouting report sounds like DFS. I'd try to get H Barnes before G. Williams.

EricaLubarsky · 06-22-2023, 10:46 PM

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I probabaly would of taken Miller or TJD over Prosper but Prosper is legity prospect whose scouting report sounds like DFS. I'd try to get H Barnes before G. Williams.

OMax is way better for us. Better defense. Moves without the ball. Rebounds as well.

The only things Millet do better are things we don?t need like handling the ball.

Prosper is an upgrade on DFS. Miller is an Odom starter kit.

Dtownsfinest · 06-22-2023, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

OMax is way better for us. Better defense. Moves without the ball. Rebounds as well.

The only things Millet do better are things we don?t need like handling the ball.

Prosper is an upgrade on DFS. Miller is an Odom starter kit.

A bit early to say he's a upgrade on DFS....maybe ceiling wise if he gets there.

EricaLubarsky · 06-22-2023, 11:52 PM

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A bit early to say he's a upgrade on DFS....maybe ceiling wise if he gets there.

I don?t think it?s too early to say that Miller is a bad fit and OMax has a perfect skill set/game for here

Zeus · 06-23-2023, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sig

I probabaly would of taken Miller or TJD over Prosper but Prosper is legity prospect whose scouting report sounds like DFS. I'd try to get H Barnes before G. Williams.

No way. Prosper is clearly the best pure on ball defender left when they took him. Great pick who might see more time early on than Lively. The Mavs have completely overhauled their roster and went young in one draft.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-23-2023, 10:27 PM

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No way. Prosper is clearly the best pure on ball defender left when they took him. Great pick who might see more time early on than Lively. The Mavs have completely overhauled their roster and went young in one draft.

Yeah but Miller is a far superior rebounder. I'm willing to give Prosper the benefit until he plays, but I'd have taken Miller.

Back to Barnes...I'd try a s&t of THJ for him if possible. That might make a lot of sense for both teams.

SMC0007 · 06-24-2023, 08:39 AM

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Yeah but Miller is a far superior rebounder. I'm willing to give Prosper the benefit until he plays, but I'd have taken Miller.

Back to Barnes...I'd try a s&t of THJ for him if possible. That might make a lot of sense for both teams.

From what i can see, Prosper isnt getting rebounds like you'd think because he is defending his ass off. When he's selling out contesting shots it's hard to be in position to also rebound. Many of the shots he contests are hitting the rim by thr time he is landing. As long as he isn't letting his man get his own rebound and he is boxing out, I'll take the defense over rebounding.

MFFL · 06-25-2023, 12:42 PM

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From what i can see, Prosper isnt getting rebounds like you'd think because he is defending his ass off. When he's selling out contesting shots it's hard to be in position to also rebound. Many of the shots he contests are hitting the rim by thr time he is landing. As long as he isn't letting his man get his own rebound and he is boxing out, I'll take the defense over rebounding.

THIS!!!

sig · 06-24-2023, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

No way. Prosper is clearly the best pure on ball defender left when they took him. Great pick who might see more time early on than Lively. The Mavs have completely overhauled their roster and went young in one draft.

I am fine with Prosper but nobody knows who is the better prospect from this group of players. The age difference between Prosper and TJD or Miller is not even a factor. This was a deep draft so there were other players outside of those 3 that would have been solid picks also.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-24-2023, 12:29 PM

Mavs interested in Bruce Brown as well per Marc Stein. I'd prefer him over Williams.

Melonhead · 06-24-2023, 05:42 PM

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Mavs interested in Bruce Brown as well per Marc Stein. I'd prefer him over Williams.

Interesting he says Bruce Brown is the FA they?re going after ?first?. Surprised it?s out there so soon with a week to go.

Obviously that?s not including Kyrie

EricaLubarsky · 06-22-2023, 10:43 PM

Cmon TJD

EricaLubarsky · 06-22-2023, 10:51 PM

Rebounding was the difference between lottery and 5th

We did that AND addressed man defense, team defense, steals, and blocks

EricaLubarsky · 06-22-2023, 10:52 PM

42 and TJD is available.

Cmon Cuban

EricaLubarsky · 06-22-2023, 10:54 PM

Man we NEEDED a good off-season and Nico came up clutch

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-22-2023, 10:59 PM

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Man we NEEDED a good off-season and Nico came up clutch

Nico is great.

It's the coach I'm worried about.

Because all the king's horses and all the king's men can't force Kidd to play them.

But for now, we finally have a youth movement of Hardy, Green, Prosper, and Lively.

EricaLubarsky · 06-22-2023, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Nico is great.

It's the coach I'm worried about.

Because all the king's horses and all the king's men can't force Kidd to play them.

But for now, we finally have a youth movement of Hardy, Green, Prosper, and Lively.

Fuck. You?re right.

Kidd is still our coach.

SMC0007 · 06-22-2023, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Nico is great.

It's the coach I'm worried about.

Because all the king's horses and all the king's men can't force Kidd to play them.

But for now, we finally have a youth movement of Hardy, Green, Prosper, and Lively.

Coach was ass last season. Idk who could have coached last seasons group deep into the playoffs. Provabkt no one....but Kidd kept tripping over his dick. It's easier to replace the coach once you have the talent. I would have went after JVG and voted Kidd off the island because I don't see him taking a passenger seat anywhere.

EricaLubarsky · 06-22-2023, 10:55 PM

Someone has to do Bates right?

Right?

tap2390 · 06-22-2023, 10:56 PM

Blows my mind TJD is still available... someone is getting a day 1 rotation player late in the draft. Same goes for Sasser.

Edit: NVM Sasser gone at 25. At least I got that one right.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-22-2023, 11:00 PM

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Blows my mind TJD is still available... someone is getting a day 1 rotation player late in the draft. Same goes for Sasser.

And it's literally only because of his age.

EricaLubarsky · 06-22-2023, 10:58 PM

But will never defend but he will average 15-25ppg

FreshJive · 06-22-2023, 11:05 PM

It?s a good thing the Mavs tanked.

Kidd Karma · 06-22-2023, 11:14 PM

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It?s a good thing the Mavs tanked.

Agreed to parlay a few losses into 2 possible rookie starters....genius move.

Move a poor mans Kleber for a better fitting piece in Holmes. Kidd has to win out the gate, after this its a cherry on top of the offseason...assuming Kyrie is back. If Mavs are scuffling around 5 hundred at the break, need a new coach.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-22-2023, 11:06 PM

GG Jackson finally went at 45. Another steal. This draft has to be the deepest I can remember.

EricaLubarsky · 06-22-2023, 11:08 PM

Hardy/Prosper/Lively is going to be a sick summer league team

One more to join them in the second round?

Then make some calls for undrafted kids

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-22-2023, 11:09 PM

if TJD goes undrafted, we better offer a guaranteed contract on the spot. If he gets picked, then call Tshiebwe who will be an insurance in case Holmes sucks.

SMC0007 · 06-22-2023, 11:14 PM

I can see Holmes being a great 2nd unit big. Versatile player that somehow lost his way.

Murphy3 · 06-23-2023, 12:24 AM

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I can see Holmes being a great 2nd unit big. Versatile player that somehow lost his way.

There?s a decent chance Holmes is their 3rd center.

EricaLubarsky · 06-22-2023, 11:19 PM

Master B?tes finally goes 49

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-22-2023, 11:20 PM

9 picks left. Please, please, please.