R.I.P. To 'The Big Three'

[ReDIRKulous]

Originally posted by: MikeB
I think Walker sometimes takes shots when the other Mavs on the floor don't seem to be intersted in working to get open. I for one appreciate him having the "stones" to take those shots.

Now would we be better if it was Dirk who grew some stones and took over...yeah!...but he hasn't shown that kind of fire very often this season so far.

RIP to the "Big 3"...ok.
Hello to the NEW FAB 5.

This is the real key to why Walker is an improvement to Raef. Raef was terrified to shoot in big games. Walker is more anxious than maybe even Nick Van Exel to shoot in big games... and so far Walker has shot great in those big games. Walker does hurt us somewhat in regular season games... it feels like it at least. But it is well worth it for his performance in the big games imo. I just wish Walker would realize that he could literally average a triple-double if he would pass to Dirk much more frequently.

[StupidDannyAInge]

Originally posted by: kg_veteran


Walker IS an inefficient scorer. .

According to you he is.
Walker is shooting a better FG% then Dirk so far this year but I don't see the threads calling him out?
It is still Walker's fault according to ....

This is what I am talking about.

Walker has the best efficiency rating on this team so far this year.
Your blaming him for trying to pick up the slack for Dirk who at times has looked like he doesn't care at all out there (an admission by some people even at this board).
Walker has been passing the ball to Dirk in the second half for the last 5 or so games and a lot of his assists are coming from passes he has made to Dirk (Dirk has missed a lot of those shots too which says a lot about what Antoine's assists would and could be)

[ReDIRKulous]

Originally posted by: StupidDannyAInge

According to you he is.
Walker is shooting a better FG% then Dirk so far this year but I don't see the threads calling him out?
It is still Walker's fault according to ....

This is what I am talking about.

Walker has the best efficiency rating on this team so far this year.
Your blaming him for trying to pick up the slack for Dirk who at times has looked like he doesn't care at all out there (an admission by some people even at this board).
Walker has been passing the ball to Dirk in the second half for the last 5 or so games and a lot of his assists are coming from passes he has made to Dirk (Dirk has missed a lot of those shots too which says a lot about what Antoine's assists would and could be)

Are you saying that you think walker is a better player than Dirk? Do you feel that this team should play to Dirk's strengths or to Walker's?

[MavsFanFinley]

Walker (29 games) 209-483 fg, 46-151 (3pt), 37-70 ft. 43%, 30%, 53%

Dirk (24 games) 158-373 fg, 25-88 (3pt), 120-139 ft. 42%, 28%, 86%

Finley (24 games) 157-358 fg, 44-110 (3pt), 54-66 ft. 44%, 40%, 82%

Jamison (29 games) 182-358 fg, 5-16 (3pt), 82-106 ft. 51%, 31%, 77%

Nash (28 games) 132-311 fg, 45-106 (3pt), 95-105 ft. 42%, 42%, 90%

[StupidDannyAInge]

Are you saying that you think walker is a better player than Dirk? Do you feel that this team should play to Dirk's strengths or to Walker's?

I agree with you that Dirk should be the guy we pass to when the game is on the line but when he isn't performing like he is capable of (for what ever the reason might be) then I don't feel Walker should pass up an open shot.
Walker is very capable of winning big games for us (he has done that several times this year so far)




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[MightyToine]

Originally posted by: MavsFanFinley
Walker (29 games) 209-483 fg, 46-151 (3pt), 37-70 ft. 43%, 30%, 53%

Dirk (24 games) 158-373 fg, 25-88 (3pt), 120-139 ft. 42%, 28%, 86%

Finley (24 games) 157-358 fg, 44-110 (3pt), 54-66 ft. 44%, 40%, 82%

Jamison (29 games) 182-358 fg, 5-16 (3pt), 82-106 ft. 51%, 31%, 77%

Nash (28 games) 132-311 fg, 45-106 (3pt), 95-105 ft. 42%, 42%, 90%

So what is this supposed to illustrate? Besides the fact that Walker takes too many 3's....like that's anything new...

[mavs_afroman]

Originally posted by: Big Lo
anytime u have a team with multiple scorers these days, your fg% will be down.

percentages were higher because there were 4 ppl taking the majority of the shots fo the mavs last year. 3 of which shot well, and the last shot less but hit the shots he took. of of the 8-9 man rotation they had, weve added 4 more potential scorers to that mix, a rookie, minus last years 4th option. 2 of which are scorers, and a rookie who is on that path. and the 4th not really a high percentage guy already. so odds are, % were going to be down cuz the same 3-4 guys werent taking all the shots. but, as a result; we lead the league in offensive rebounding, our defense is better when nessesary, and we a much more solid bench than ever before. you have to take the good with the bad.

Our defense definitely isn't better. Stats and looking at the games will tell you that. OUr bench is better on paper but not in production. I think this has been a big problem this year. The mavs look much better on paper than they are. All of the peices that look really nice when you look at them just don't fit.

Also the good with the bad argument should not apply to this team. The Mavs were one quarter from at least game seven of the WCF last year and won 60 regular season games. Some of our very special new members would be better off if they remembered that. Walker, Jamison, and Fortson have been a major contribution to rebounding but as you admit adding more scorers hurts the fg%. I could take the "good with the bad" if it made us better than last year but so far it hasn't.

The mavs are getting more offensive rebounds but shooting a lower percentage and most importantly scoring less. Its only wise to take the "good", improved offensive rebounding, with the "bad", lower field goal percentage, if it makes us better on offense and so far it hasn't. The same goes for the defense with getting more rebounds but giving up more points.

[mavs_afroman]

Originally posted by: MikeB
I think Walker sometimes takes shots when the other Mavs on the floor don't seem to be intersted in working to get open. I for one appreciate him having the "stones" to take those shots.

Now would we be better if it was Dirk who grew some stones and took over...yeah!...but he hasn't shown that kind of fire very often this season so far.

RIP to the "Big 3"...ok.
Hello to the NEW FAB 5.

I could understand that but that didn't seem to be as big of a problem as last year. They got open last year and made shots. The Mavs really were incredibly unselfish last year. Sometimes is looked like noone was stepping up but it was enough to lead the league in scoring. So I don't think that Walker shoots just because noone else will step up. They've stepped up before.

I'm not even saying that Walker's selfish, he's just impatient. At least that's what I'll call it for right now. Many times, if he'd just wait a second or two before charging to the goal, there would be someone open.

[Walkerforthree]

Originally posted by: StupidDannyAInge

According to you he is.
Walker is shooting a better FG% then Dirk so far this year but I don't see the threads calling him out?
It is still Walker's fault according to ....

This is what I am talking about.

Walker has the best efficiency rating on this team so far this year.
Your blaming him for trying to pick up the slack for Dirk who at times has looked like he doesn't care at all out there (an admission by some people even at this board).
Walker has been passing the ball to Dirk in the second half for the last 5 or so games and a lot of his assists are coming from passes he has made to Dirk (Dirk has missed a lot of those shots too which says a lot about what Antoine's assists would and could be)

There is this weird stat called POINTS PER SHOT, look into it.

[Psychedelic Fuzz]

yes, the mavs are scoring less, by a whole one point.

as for fg%...
on a good offensive rebounding team, there will be more points on put-backs, which means more shot attempts show up in the stat. For example, there was one play against Memphis were walker missed, then missed the tip, then got the tip to go in. That's 3 attemps and only one make. I wouldn't attribute a drop in fg% purely to bad shooting.

[MightyToine]

Originally posted by: Walkerforthree

There is this weird stat called POINTS PER SHOT, look into it.

Why is it that I'm the one who gets the brunt of Outlet-Pass's Lame Attacks because of something StupidDanny posts?? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img]

[mavs_afroman]

Originally posted by: Psychedelic Fuzz
yes, the mavs are scoring less, by a whole one point.

as for fg%...
on a good offensive rebounding team, there will be more points on put-backs, which means more shot attempts show up in the stat. For example, there was one play against Memphis were walker missed, then missed the tip, then got the tip to go in. That's 3 attemps and only one make. I wouldn't attribute a drop in fg% purely to bad shooting.

That's a good point but in the end scoring is still down and so is the win %. Like you said, scoring is down only one point. However, we cannot score as efficiently. I think that that's why they've lost more games this year. Efficient scoring, like last year, was one reason they blew fewer big leads last year and also why they were so much better in the 4th quarter. For the most part, they were able to score points when they needed in the 4th quarter or to stop a run by the opposing team.

Also, taking 3 shots to score 2 points is still bad shooting whether on the same posession or not. That lowers fg%. What else is there to attribute a lowered fg% to other than not shooting as well. I understand that a drop in scoring isn't always caused by bad shooting or low fg% because, like you said, if you rebound well, you can get those back and put them in and you still score the same amount of points. However, so far at least, the fg% has dropped and so has the scoring as well as there ability to create good shots when they need them the most.

[Psychedelic Fuzz]

you are right. overall fg% is down, but my point is that shooting has not gotten quite as bad as the stat suggests it has.

The rest of the problems you point out will resolve themselves when the injury bug stops creeping up and biting this team in the @$$ long enough for Dirk to get back in the groove and the big 5 to learn each other's tendencies a little better.

[mavs_afroman]

I sure hope so.

[Max Power]

Originally posted by: MightyToine

So what is this supposed to illustrate? Besides the fact that Walker takes too many 3's....like that's anything new...

It illustrates the fact that despite Dirk having the worst start to a season since his rookie season he is STILL shooting as good as Walker.

[dude1394]

Excuse me for a rambling post, it just sort of happened that way:


It looks to me like as a team we are significantly shooting worse this year. Also not stopping as well but not AS bad as our shooting disparity.

Mavs shooting percentage-opponent shooting percentage:

.437-.448 2003
.453- .438 2002

2003-2002 Mavs percentage delta => .437-.453= -.016
Opponents = +.010

Last years .453 shooting strangely enough would ONLY put us at 9th this year versus our current 12th. Our opp FG% however has us at 26th this year, last years .438 would have us at 18th.

Really strange how what seems to be small percentages are so impactive. I think cubes is right to focus on defensive numbers as those seem to be the metrics that are showing problems, strange because I thought rebounding would actually help that, but it seems more to have shorn up our scoring.

Points allowed this year versus last year:
102 <-> 98.3 (2003)
103.0 <-> 95.2 (2002)

[Chiwas]

Originally posted by: Max Power
It illustrates the fact that despite Dirk having the worst start to a season since his rookie season he is STILL shooting as good as Walker.

Good observation.

Walker is playing as Walker, and Dirk isn't plying as Dirk, solely cause Walker is using the position of Dirk.

However, Walker have some stuf that Dirk doesn't have.

What I dislike is that our coaching staff -notice that I didn't mention Nellie- can't realize or don't want to realize that both are complementary. My best idea so far is to put Walker as backup of Dirk and/or as center.

[kg_veteran]

Originally posted by: StupidDannyAInge

According to you he is.

No, according to the statistics he is. The most accurate gauge of whether a player is an efficient scorer is the "points per shot" statistic.

Here are the points per shot statistics for the Big 5 this year:

Steve Nash 1.30 PPS (No. 14 in the NBA)
Antawn Jamison 1.26 PPS (No. 20 in the NBA)
Dirk Nowitzki 1.24 PPS (No. 31 in the NBA)
Michael Finley 1.17 PPS (No. 57 in the NBA)
Antoine Walker 1.04 PPS (No. 99 in the NBA)

Here are the points per shot statistics for the Big 5 from last year:

Steve Nash 1.31 PPS
Antawn Jamison 1.24 PPS
Dirk Nowitzki 1.35 PPS
Michael Finley 1.12 PPS
Antoine Walker 1.01 PPS

And here are the points per shot statistics for the Big 5 for their career:

Steve Nash 1.29 PPS
Antawn Jamison 1.17 PPS
Dirk Nowitzki 1.35 PPS
Michael Finley 1.16 PPS
Antoine Walker 1.07 PPS

As you can see, Walker is by far the least efficient scorer of the five this year, last year, and for his career.

Walker is shooting a better FG% then Dirk so far this year but I don't see the threads calling him out?
It is still Walker's fault according to ....

This is what I am talking about.

This is what you're talking about? Pay attention, man. I haven't "blamed" Walker for anything. I'm simply telling you WHY he should defer to the other scorers on the team.

As pointed out above, the correct statistic to gauge scoring efficiency is points per shot, but if you want to talk about shooting percentage, let's do that.

For their careers, here are the FG% and adjusted FG% for the Big 5:

Steve Nash .462 FG%, .527 AFG%
Antawn Jamison .458 FG%, .474 AFG%
Dirk Nowitzki .462 FG%, .513 AFG%
Michael Finley .452 FG%, .487 AFG%
Antoine Walker .413 FG%, .458 AFG%

Walker is EASILY the worst shooter among the Big 5. The career numbers bear that out. So he is the least efficient shooter AND scorer.

Walker has the best efficiency rating on this team so far this year.

Sure, that's true. And if we were talking about efficiency ratings, that might be relevant. But since we were talking about efficient SCORING, it isn't.

Your blaming him for trying to pick up the slack for Dirk who at times has looked like he doesn't care at all out there (an admission by some people even at this board).

Here's what I said:

Walker IS an inefficient scorer. Seems to me that we should all agree on that, whether you like Walker or not. As Max pointed out, Walker has taken the shots because other guys have been hurt and it has been at least somewhat necessary to fill the void. Now that all of our scorers are healthy, that should no longer be the case. Walker SHOULD begin to defer to Nowitzki, Finley, Jamison, and even Nash. He should look to do what he does best -- rebound the ball, pass the ball, and be a facilitator offensively.

I didn't talk about (much less blame him for) anything he has done. I talked about what he needs to do NOW.

[dude1394]

Originally posted by: kg_veteran

For their careers, here are the FG% and adjusted FG% for the Big 5:

Steve Nash .462 FG%, .527 AFG%
Antawn Jamison .458 FG%, .474 AFG%
Dirk Nowitzki .462 FG%, .513 AFG%
Michael Finley .452 FG%, .487 AFG%
Antoine Walker .413 FG%, .458 AFG%

KG...What is the AFG%??? Is that after 3ptr's taken out??

Looking at those numbers it's obvious why stevie/dirk were all-stars last year.

[kg_veteran]

AFG% factors in the extra worth of a three-pointer made vs. a two-pointer made.

Formula: 2PM + (3PM*1.5)/FGA

[sike]

Originally posted by: kg_veteran
AFG% factors in the extra worth of a three-pointer made vs. a two-pointer made.

Formula: 2PM + (3PM*1.5)/FGA

and to solve for X??? CRAP! you guys just went all mathematical on me......[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

[MightyToine]

Originally posted by: Max Power

It illustrates the fact that despite Dirk having the worst start to a season since his rookie season he is STILL shooting as good as Walker.

And that's supposed to be a good thing? [img]i/expressions/rolleye.gif[/img]

Walker is a career 41% shooter.... Not exactly stuff to write home about if you're a Dirk fan when you think about it....

[kg_veteran]

And that's supposed to be a good thing? [img]i/expressions/rolleye.gif[/img]

Walker is a career 41% shooter.... Not exactly stuff to write home about if you're a Dirk fan when you think about it....

No, it's not supposed to be a "good thing". It just shows that even Dirk at his worst, shooting-wise, is as good as Walker at his best.

[sike]

Originally posted by: kg_veteran

No, it's not supposed to be a "good thing". It just shows that even Dirk at his worst, shooting-wise, is as good as Walker at his best.

this is a point that cannot be attacked by the Walker lovers.....Walker needs many more shots to come even close to averaging the same numbers.....

ps. I am not bashing Walker.....I am not a Walker hater.......but I am fairly quickly becoming a hater of the Walker homers.......

oh well to each his own!

[LRB]

Walker can be a tremendously better benefit to this team by shooting less and thereby scoring less. If you take away the totally stupid number of 3pters that he takes, Walker actually shoots fairly decent from 2 pt range. The real problems are he's terrible at getting to the line and even worse once he gets there.

I know this won't happen, but if Walker could reduce his 3pt shot attempts to around what Tim Duncan takes per year he would be sooooooo much better. Nash, Fin, and Dirk are quite capable of taking the 3pters we need to spread the D. Walker is much better trying to work inside, drive, and offensive rebound. But we still don't want him to be the primary option very often when we come down on offense.

I think Walker does do a lot of positive things for the Mavs, but he could do more by doing less.

[Chiwas]

Following your idead, LRB, I could say that the Mavs need of Walker as a role player instead of a leading or all around player. He would turn in a ton of help.

[kg_veteran]

Originally posted by: LRB
Walker can be a tremendously better benefit to this team by shooting less and thereby scoring less. If you take away the totally stupid number of 3pters that he takes, Walker actually shoots fairly decent from 2 pt range. The real problems are he's terrible at getting to the line and even worse once he gets there.

I know this won't happen, but if Walker could reduce his 3pt shot attempts to around what Tim Duncan takes per year he would be sooooooo much better. Nash, Fin, and Dirk are quite capable of taking the 3pters we need to spread the D. Walker is much better trying to work inside, drive, and offensive rebound. But we still don't want him to be the primary option very often when we come down on offense.

I think Walker does do a lot of positive things for the Mavs, but he could do more by doing less.

To add a little statistical teeth to your point, if you simply took Walker's stats this year and removed three point attempts, here are how Walker's numbers would look, applying the same 3P%:

3 3PA/game - 15.2 ppg, .452 FG%, 1.06 PPS
2 3PA/game - 14.3 ppg, .463 FG%, 1.07 PPS
1 3PA/game - 13.4 ppg, .476 FG%, 1.08 PPS

Taking 2 3PA/game as an ideal scenario, Walker would be down to 13.5 FGA/game or so, while still contributing over 14 ppg and shooting a respectable percentage. That would free up more shots to go to the more efficient scorers, and presumably Walker's other stats (rebounding and assists) might go up even further.

[LRB]

3 3PA/game - 15.2 ppg, .452 FG%, 1.06 PPS
2 3PA/game - 14.3 ppg, .463 FG%, 1.07 PPS
1 3PA/game - 13.4 ppg, .476 FG%, 1.08 PPS

Thanks for the statistical assist KG. Funny how Walkers PPS keeps climbing as he takes less 3pters. I didn't expect that rapid of a climb. I certainly could live the the 2 3PA/game which would be a drastic improvement.

[kg_veteran]

Originally posted by: LRB

Thanks for the statistical assist KG. Funny how Walkers PPS keeps climbing as he takes less 3pters. I didn't expect that rapid of a climb. I certainly could live the the 2 3PA/game which would be a drastic improvement.

So far, the shots have been distributed like this:

Walker 16.7 FGA/game
Nowitzki 15.5 FGA/game
Finley 14.9 FGA/game
Jamison 12.3 FGA/game
Nash 11.1 FGA/game
Howard 7.9 FGA/game
Delk 5.8 FGA/game
Daniels 3.6 FGA/game
Fortson 2.5 FGA/game
Najera 3.2 FGA/game
Best 3.4 FGA/game
Bradley 2.3 FGA/game

I'd like to see Walker's shots reduced as mentioned above, and then I'd like to see roleplayers like Howard and particularly Delk shoot less. If you took 3.2 shots from Walker, 1 from Howard and 2 from Delk, you could get Nowitzki to 18 FGA/game, Nash to 13 FGA/game, and Jamison to 14 FGA/game. Then you'd be in business.

[LRB]

I'd like to see Walker's shots reduced as mentioned above, and then I'd like to see roleplayers like Howard and particularly Delk shoot less. If you took 3.2 shots from Walker, 1 from Howard and 2 from Delk, you could get Nowitzki to 18 FGA/game, Nash to 13 FGA/game, and Jamison to 14 FGA/game. Then you'd be in business.

How about taking 3.4 shots from from Best. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

Seriously, I like your plan. I do think the Mavs need to focus more on getting their more efficient scorers a higher percentage of the shots we take. Of course means the least efficient scorers are the best to give up the shots. I really don't want people not taking good shots when we're breaking, but if it's not a good shot then we shouldn't take it just because we want to break. And in the halfcourt we need to become more diciplined at getting our most efficient scorers shots. This is the chief place that the Walkers, Delk's, and Howard's need to pass on shots to get our efficient scorers the shots instead.

[seelenjaeger]

Guys, two things:

Walkers roughly 2 Put-Backs per game and Walkers enormous amount of non-existent free throws should tell you something no one seem to mention.

Although the numbers LOOK like we´re running more plays through Walker, this is DEFINATELY not true. Dirk IS ALREADY our main option on offense, although he is getting less "true shots" than Walker.

Why? Because roughly 2 of Walkers shots per game come from putbacks, and Dirk is fouled WITH THE BALL IN HIS HANDS.

If you adjust it with this knowledge, you´ll realize that Walker is ALREADY playing the 2nd fiddle, maybe even tied 2nd fiddle with Fin.

Take a three pointer from him, and limit benchguards and Howard to take a little less shots, and foremost, CONVINCE DIRK to PLAY HIS GAME and you have nothing to talk about.

We don´t even need that drastic change most people are trying to do.

[kg_veteran]

SJ - The numbers illustrate that Walker could really improve his scoring efficiency by simply taking fewer three-pointers. How many that should be is open to debate, I suppose, but it seems like he should be chunking up closer to 2-3 a game than the 5.2 he currently hoists.

[Murphy3]

Walker is a horribly inefficient scorer. He has been his entire career. He doesn't hit 2-pt shots at a good clip. He doesn't hit 3 pointers at a good clip. He doesn't get to the line at a respectable clip. When he does get to the line, he doesn't hit his free throws at a good clip.

He's AI without the ability to get to the line AND hit free throws. Bottom line, when it comes to shooting, he just doesn't do a decent job of putting the ball in the hoop. Yes, he's been slightly better this year, but in the end, he'll be what he is. He's an inefficient scorer.

[kg_veteran]

And yet, in many ways he is an efficient basketball player. He contributes rebounds, assists, steals, blocks at such a clip that he ranks high among the league's efficiency rankings. If his scoring role is reduced a bit and more focus is placed on those other areas of his game, he can be a huge asset to this team.

[seelenjaeger]

Well, I guess this part is undisputed. However, if it´s about whether he should pass them up or receive them closer to the basket remains to be discussed. I would not have any troubles launching the same amount of shots if he just shoots 2 less treys.

Some numbers of other 2nd fiddles by the way:

A. Walker takes 18.9 percent of our total shots.

Rasheed Wallace takes 18.8 percent of Portlands.
Tony Parker is at 16.8 percent.
David Wesley is at 18.1 percent.
Sam Cassell 20.4 and Latrell Sprewell 19.7!

IF our 5 main guys take 17.5 percent of the teams shots each altogehter (15.odd shots each), there´s roughly 11 shots left for anyone else.

With us playing a 6 to 7 man rotation, I don´t see much of a problem in achieving this goal.

[LRB]

Ideally I would love to see Walker only taking 3pters on bailout shots where the clock is on his back. And that would be very rarely if he hardly ever parked his butt out by the 3pt line which would be the ideal situation. Walker scores less per 3PA than he does per 2PA. Why have him shoot any at all? I guess only to appease his ego. [img]i/expressions/rolleye.gif[/img] Still if he'd cut out 3 of his flings from 3pt land per game, I'd be happy.

[seelenjaeger]

Well, once in a while Walker gets hot from 3pt land and we have a Sac-to game.

[Murphy3]

for every time walker gets hot from downtown, there's several times where he's ice cold for extended stretches.

I'm sorry, but you cannot point to one game and say 'what about this time..'

He's a bad three point shooter. Yes, he will get hot from time to time. But, he's a bad three point shooter. Overall, the team would be better if he never took a three pointer instead of jacking up however many he takes per game in my opinion. Sure, he'd lose some respect and wouldn't be able to drive as well. But, I don't believe that would outweigh the positives you'd gain from him not taking that shot.

[Murphy3]

Originally posted by: kg_veteran
And yet, in many ways he is an efficient basketball player. He contributes rebounds, assists, steals, blocks at such a clip that he ranks high among the league's efficiency rankings. If his scoring role is reduced a bit and more focus is placed on those other areas of his game, he can be a huge asset to this team.

Sure, Walker could be so much better if his shot selection was better. Well, to be honest, I believe we could see an Antoine Walker that doesn't take bad shots, but would still shoot a very poor percentage. He's just not gonna put the ball in the hoop consistently in my opinion. Plus, he just doesn't draw fouls. When he does get to the line, he doesn't hit his free throws at a high clip.

Walker does so many things really well on the court. However, when you:

1. shoot the ball poorly from within the three point line
2. shoot the ball poorly from outside the three point line
3. get to the FT line at a poor clip
4. make a poor percentage of your FT's

When you struggle at doing ALL of the above, you should not be the guy taking anywhere near the most amount of attempts per game on this Dallas Mavs team.

The Mavs need more of what he does best and less of what he does poorly on the offensive end. The guy has alot of talent and could possibly get to an all-star game if he took 10-12 shots per game, grabbed 9-10 boards and had around 6 assists (plus a decent amount of steals and blocks)

[dude1394]

ps. I am not bashing Walker.....I am not a Walker hater.......but I am fairly quickly becoming a hater of the Walker homers.......

oh well to each his own!

Nice hair shirt wearing there sike. ;^)