Some Christians Never Give Up...lol

[Usually Lurkin]

I would hope there is less bigotry in the "saved" church than in "lost" society. I don't think most Christians's feelings about Homosexuality is intentionaly mean or hard hearted,

The important question to me is, what is it that the church is doing that reduces the level of bigotry among its members? We could maybe do more of it.

once again I think we may have found our area of confusion. I am not such a person. Though I hope to treat homosexuals with dignity and respect (the same dignity and respect I hope to show all men and women) I do find it Biblically to be a sin.

I didn't mean to suggest that you would be. I meant to suggest that you are more willing to find such a person in the world than you would be to find someone suggesting the adulterer does not need to repent, and that this difference has an influence on how one deals with people involved in homosexuality or adultery.

and you'll find them in churches every Sunday...pretending like no ONE (notice the capital letters) knows

right. and habitual gamblers, pornographers, alcoholics, and sinners of all sorts. And they stay there willing to be lectured to about the nature of their own sins.
I think unrepentent homosexuals, though, are more willing to leave a church that says homosexuality is a sin, and join one that does not. This makes it more intimidating to reach out to them. Society is building for them not only a rationality that excuses the behavior, but one that explains the behavior as a gift from God. Reaching out to that - to someone who has already decided they don't even want to listen, is hard.

I think you are right - that homosexuality is often treated differently by Christians for other reasons. Those probably have something to do with a lack of identification with the temptation, an influence by bigotry in society, the fact that even holy sexuality is often a taboo topic in church, and other reasons. It might not be as pervasive as the "Christian culture", though. It sounds like yourself, and the few churches that I've learned from, and even George Bush are examples of the opposite (perhaps these are exceptions, though).

as I've said multiple times now, UL, (I think all this is mostly caused by lack of detail in our posts and the other guy making assumptions)...I think we agree. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

I think so, too. I've been approaching this discussion with the idea of surfacing those issues that keep churches from reaching out to homosexuals, focusing on the changing view of homosexuality in our society. The refusal to admit to sin is a very tricky subject, and conversations concerning homosexuality often deal with it, and it often places an impassable wall between people otherwise willing to share in Christ. This has been a good discussion for exploring those issues. It'd be nice to be able to avoid the wall without ceding any of what God has given to us.