Mein Drumpf

[MavzMan]

Originally Posted by sefant77

So...where is mavsfan 1000 trying to explain why Hillary was worse?

Sorry, I work a lot ... too much lately actually. The majority of the mornings, I'm able to at least look at these forums and sometimes post. And then on top of that if you recall, I said in the beginning that I don't like getting into political debates. It's pointless. I don't like mushrooms. You can tell me how great they are or how awful green beans are, but you're extremely unlikely to change my opinion ... especially on an internet forum full of mushroom lovers and green bean haters.

My only point was to try and give a different viewpoint from the one everyone seems to have in here. And yes, I still believe we would be worse with Hillary. The huge difference is that we just wouldn't know it because she is a lot better at it than Trump. Yes, I still believe Trump is a village idiot and needs to STFU on his twitter crack pipe. And yes, I still believe I had two choices in the election ... but it wasn't black-and-white like i said earlier though ... in reality, it was black-and-black.

I apologize that my view point offends you and maybe this isn't the place to try and have a serious discussion which in all honestly, it's probably not at no fault of anyone in here. Just based on the basketball discussions, I view most everyone on these forums as mostly intelligent people. Yet when Underdog posts the number 45 that morphs into a swastika, to me that says that you are equating Trump to Hitler. A person that literally killed millions and millions of people. Or when you make statements like "tell cops to stop killing black people" and then the very next day, I see an article where a border patrol agent was shot while shopping for groceries.

Anyway, I've spent more time than I should have posting today as I worked very late last night and I'd like to get off work at a decent time today. If I don't respond or even skip the "Mein Drumpf" forum entirely, please don't read anything more into it than it really means which is probably I just don't have the free time that is really needed to post my thoughts rather than catchy gifs or satire articles.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by MavzMan

Yet when Underdog posts the number 45 that morphs into a swastika, to me that says that you are equating Trump to Hitler.

The guy called LITERAL Nazis "very fine people" --he refused to condemn a white supremacist who MURDERED a woman... That doesn't make him Hitler, but it does make him comfortable with what Hitler stood for.

If you can't condemn HIM, then that says a lot about what you're comfortable with as well.

Or when you make statements like "tell cops to stop killing black people" and then the very next day, I see an article where a border patrol agent was shot while shopping for groceries.

The way you worded that makes it sound like you're comfortable using this event to justify the murder of black people. Which is especially odd, considering the shooter was white.

[MavzMan]

Originally Posted by Underdog

The way you worded that makes it sound like you're comfortable using this event to justify the murder of black people. Which is especially odd, considering the shooter was white.

Sorry, I didn't realize the shooter was white. Then it's alright for him to shoot the officer while he shopping for groceries. My bad.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by MavzMan

Sorry, I didn't realize the shooter was white. Then it's alright for him to shoot the officer while he shopping for groceries. My bad.

I never said it was alright... But how the hell does a border patrol agent getting killed by some white psychopath connect to the phrase "tell cops to stop killing black people"?? You're the one making illogical leaps here.

[MavzMan]

Originally Posted by Underdog

I never said it was alright... But how the hell does a border patrol agent getting killed by some white psychopath connect to the phrase "tell cops to stop killing black people"?? You're the one making illogical leaps here.

It was referring to my statement about cops going home in a body bag after a bad day at work, but in this case a bad day grocery shopping.

Originally Posted by MavzMan

I have several friends that are police officers. I would literally bet my life that they are not "killing black people". Would you bet your life that they do? This kind of statement is a huge part of the problem. Are there bad cops? YES! But I also believe that is the vast minority of them. I also give them a ton of leeway to deal with "work situations". If I have a bad day at work, I come home in a grumpy mood. If they have a bad at work, they go home in a body bag ... for $50-70k a year including overtime. There are bad people in every single profession. But I will never condemn all officers, fire fighters, or teachers. They all are grossly underpaid for what they do and deal with on a daily basis. If you want to come up with ways to figure out the bad ones and get them out, that's different. But to blanket make statements like "cops kill black people" is flat out wrong.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by MavzMan

It was referring to my statement about cops going home in a body bag after a bad day at work, but in this case a bad day grocery shopping.

Some border patrol officer getting murdered by a white person while grocery shopping has absolutely NOTHING to do with the cops who murder black people... I don't even know how you can equate the two.

That's like saying Ray Rice beat his wife, therefore all pro athletes are wife beaters, therefore Dirk Nowitzki beats his wife, therefore jello. WTF are you talking about?