2021-2022 Preseason and camp thread - Page 13 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

BPo001 · 06-16-2021, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

They apparently hired a firm to search for GM. If they were leaning toward Finley, why go through the firm.

You want to find the best possible candidate. I’d rather them use a firm to find potential candidates rather than just interview 1-2 guys and give the job to Finley. I can’t believe Cuban actually canned Donnie’s ass.

SMC0007 · 06-16-2021, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

You want to find the best possible candidate. I’d rather them use a firm to find potential candidates rather than just interview 1-2 guys and give the job to Finley. I can’t believe Cuban actually canned Donnie’s ass.

I fully understand that. I'm saying it wouldn't make sense if they already really like Fin for that role, they wouldn't have hired a firm.

Murphy3 · 06-16-2021, 02:02 PM

If only Cuban had done something to get suspended by the league instead.... that would have been much better.

FreshJive · 06-16-2021, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Cato replied to the question on twitter saying he wasn't. Can't seem to find the link to the reply though.

Ah ok. He just said something weird on one of the podcasts about not being able to talk about something. He probably got wind of this going down, from whoever he had been talking to.

FreshJive · 06-16-2021, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

They apparently hired a firm to search for GM. If they were leaning toward Finley, why go through the firm.

Hopefully this means that Cuban has figured out that he isn’t a basketball mind. Firing his yes man and his data expert.

Dtownsfinest · 06-16-2021, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Great question. Finley? Ainge? Ujiri? Actually a few pretty good options.

Ahh man I'd hate Ainge.....if they go that route I'd rather they give Finley the chance. Finley deserves it.

Dtownsfinest · 06-16-2021, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

Hopefully this means that Cuban has figured out that he isn’t a basketball mind. Firing his yes man and his data expert.

Damn....that's crazy.....the man who drafted Luka canned...I guess winning the draft awards didn't save his job....

Dtownsfinest · 06-16-2021, 02:26 PM

Am I missing something? The Raptors no longer want Ujiri?

FreshJive · 06-16-2021, 02:30 PM

This is actually the best time for this, and it’s good that they fired Bob, because, after what went down with Rosas, any good candidate might look at the situation here very skeptically. Now less ambiguity of who will be calling the shots, and Luka freakin Doncic this has to be one of the most attractive destinations possible.

SMC0007 · 06-16-2021, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

This is actually the best time for this, and it’s good that they fired Bob, because, after what went down with Rosas, any good candidate might look at the situation here very skeptically. Now less ambiguity of who will be calling the shots, and Luka freakin Doncic this has to be one of the most attractive destinations possible.

This is where I am r now.

It's really an early 1st step in troubleshooting. You really can't clean house completely and have a clear vision of what and where things went wrong. It's good we still have Rick...for now at least.

FreshJive · 06-16-2021, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Damn....that's crazy.....the man who drafted Luka canned...I guess winning the draft awards didn't save his job....

Run that draft back, and Luka is the first pick every time. Just own the L, and stop making up fairy tales about draft awards.

BPo001 · 06-16-2021, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Am I missing something? The Raptors no longer want Ujiri?

I think that’s just the only GM know. I’ve seen his name posted on just about every site (FB, Reddit, IG). I’ll admit I only know about 5 GM’s, but from my understanding Ujiri is under contract with Toronto.

dtownsworstposter · 06-16-2021, 02:39 PM

I'm dtownsfinestloser I do my best to clutter up the boards and argue with people and say nonsense like Suns are in the WCF because of Ayton over Luka and then pretend I had a point. I never have a point. This forum is 100000000000% worse because of me. If you want to keep your brain cells ignore me.

SMC0007 · 06-16-2021, 02:43 PM

https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/st...765261829?s=19

FreshJive · 06-16-2021, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

This is where I am r now.

It's really an early 1st step in troubleshooting. You really can't clean house completely and have a clear vision of what and where things went wrong. It's good we still have Rick...for now at least.

Yep. If Rick needs to go, let the new GM decide this imo

SMC0007 · 06-16-2021, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dtownsworstposter

I'm dtownsfinestloser I do my best to clutter up the boards and argue with people and say nonsense like Suns are in the WCF because of Ayton over Luka and then pretend I had a point. I never have a point. This forum is 100000000000% worse because of me. If you want to keep your brain cells ignore me.

Yikes.

Wasn't Zuess the first poster with that particular take? Not saying he's a bad poster, but for accuracy sake. If not excuse my incorrectnessss

Fuzz · 06-16-2021, 03:03 PM

I imagine the hiring of a new GM would also mean that Carlisle's job is not all the way secure?

MFFL · 06-16-2021, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuzz

I imagine the hiring of a new GM would also mean that Carlisle's job is not all the way secure?

New GMs typically keep the coach for a year to do an evaluation. Unless their preferred choice is available (or the GM was hired to fire the coach)

MFFL · 06-16-2021, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Am I missing something? The Raptors no longer want Ujiri?

Ujiri is a free agent. His contract has expired

Dtownsfinest · 06-16-2021, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

Run that draft back, and Luka is the first pick every time. Just own the L, and stop making up fairy tales about draft awards.

I think he would too. Luka would be the 1st pick in the draft and the Suns would be losing to the Clippers because their defense wouldn't be as good.

Dtownsfinest · 06-16-2021, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MFFL

Ujiri is a free agent. His contract has expired

That's what I'm saying though.....I've seen nothing to suggest Ujiri doesn't want to come back?

FreshJive · 06-16-2021, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/st...765261829?s=19

That article from the Ringer in the comments was a good read. I did not know that this was the guy responsible for turning the Nets around and refining their processes. I think it was Kevin Durant who said he chose the Nets, because he was impressed with the way they ran things, and their internal structure and processes. It also says that he has been responsible for internal promotion of employees into higher positions, so Finley might still be a possible candidate.

FreshJive · 06-16-2021, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Yikes.

Wasn't Zuess the first poster with that particular take? Not saying he's a bad poster, but for accuracy sake. If not excuse my incorrectnessss

This was not me btw. Lol. It was dtowns take, though. Zeus called Luka the best player of his generation.

Dtownsfinest · 06-16-2021, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dtownsworstposter

I'm dtownsfinestloser I do my best to clutter up the boards and argue with people and say nonsense like Suns are in the WCF because of Ayton over Luka and then pretend I had a point. I never have a point. This forum is 100000000000% worse because of me. If you want to keep your brain cells ignore me.

We agree on one thing...you are Dtownsworstposter lol.

Dtownsfinest · 06-16-2021, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Yikes.

Wasn't Zuess the first poster with that particular take? Not saying he's a bad poster, but for accuracy sake. If not excuse my incorrectnessss

FreshJive has been in his feelings for about a week now over something that I said lol. I'm the only poster he seems to be able to see for whatever reason maybe he has everyone on ignore lol.

NeedlesKane · 06-16-2021, 03:38 PM

I have no clue who the new GM will be. Watch it become Cuban or, better yet, Luka. lmao

Dtownsfinest · 06-16-2021, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MFFL

New GMs typically keep the coach for a year to do an evaluation. Unless their preferred choice is available (or the GM was hired to fire the coach)

Yeah I don't think Carlisle is going anywhere this year but I do think in the future it could mean a divorce. But seems to me Cuban is the reason Carlisile is here not because of Donnie.

Dtownsfinest · 06-16-2021, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

This was not me btw. Lol. It was dtowns take, though. Zeus called Luka the best player of his generation.

That was not my take dtownsworstposter....keep up.

Melonhead · 06-16-2021, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dtownsworstposter

I'm dtownsfinestloser I do my best to clutter up the boards and argue with people and say nonsense like Suns are in the WCF because of Ayton over Luka and then pretend I had a point. I never have a point. This forum is 100000000000% worse because of me. If you want to keep your brain cells ignore me.

I remember my first time on the Internet too. You’re a reactionary poster with zero nuance.

Dtownsfinest · 06-16-2021, 03:46 PM

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I remember my first time on the Internet too. You’re a reactionary poster with zero nuance.

Some people just lack the mental capacity to respectfully disagree with someone. He's more upset with my posts then he is with how the Mavs are being ran.......

FreshJive · 06-16-2021, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Drafting Ayton over Luka is a big part in why they are in the WCF though...not saying they couldn't have done it without Luka but he anchors that defense with his interior presence. Same goes for Capella in ATL.

Right here is your post.

I don’t make alternate accounts. I’ve argued with you directly every time. I’m sure a mod can confirm that the new account was not me.

FreshJive · 06-16-2021, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I think he would too. Luka would be the 1st pick in the draft and the Suns would be losing to the Clippers because their defense wouldn't be as good.

You doubled down here

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-16-2021, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuzz

I imagine the hiring of a new GM would also mean that Carlisle's job is not all the way secure?

I agree with this. Something big needed to happen to put everyone on high alert. No more bs excuses this summer.

Dtownsfinest · 06-16-2021, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

Right here is your post.

I don’t make alternate accounts. I’ve argued with you directly every time. I’m sure a mod can confirm that the new account was not me.

And I stand by that. Ayton is a big part in what the Suns do.

Dtownsfinest · 06-16-2021, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I agree with this. Something big needed to happen to put everyone on high alert. No more bs excuses this summer.

Only issue I have is that I Think Donnie is being scapegoated for Cuban's issues.

MFFL · 06-16-2021, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

That's what I'm saying though.....I've seen nothing to suggest Ujiri doesn't want to come back?

Cuban can money whip him. And supposedly everyone wants to be around Luka

FreshJive · 06-16-2021, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

In a offensive league......it seems like you'd be going backwards trading your best shooter for perimeter defensive help.

You also posted this when arguing about the Josh Richardson trade. But hey Ayton was a better pick than Luka.

FreshJive · 06-16-2021, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

And I stand by that. Ayton is a big part in what the Suns do.

So it was your take, then? Not Zeus. This is like that Rick James couch skit.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-16-2021, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Only issue I have is that I Think Donnie is being scapegoated for Cuban's issues.

No, he was fired for throwing Luka under the bus. Cuban has his own demons to answer for, no question, but not even he would be dumb enough to say those things.

If Donnie had taken part of the blame and said he needed to build a better team around Luka, then I doubt any of this happens.

Of course, maybe Donnie already knew the writing was on the wall.

SMC0007 · 06-16-2021, 04:53 PM

Do we even know that Donnie didn't kinda see himself out?