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Old 04-26-2014, 01:08 PM   #1
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Umm, Hibberts advanced stats scream "elite defensive center". His affect on opponents' field goal percentage is incredible.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/co...the-protector/

I'm not saying work like this is infallible or that these stats should be used as gospel, but if you think the analytics crowd looks down on Hibbert you're simply wrong. The analytics crowd is the one championing him as elite.
A) Do you think he's available? Being shopped? Any evidence that he's being shopped?
B) What do you think he'll cost? We have few trade pieces. Would you trade our 2015/2017 first rounders and perhaps more for him?
C) How do you explain his incredibly poor play for much of the season and the post-season, where he'll have to sit out just to keep up with ATL?
D) Is he so good at preventing layups that it's worth spending 1/4 of our cap space on a guy who is one-dimensional? Sub-par rebounder, non-existent offensive threat, etc.

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Old 04-29-2014, 06:56 AM   #2
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A) Do you think he's available? Being shopped? Any evidence that he's being shopped?
B) What do you think he'll cost? We have few trade pieces. Would you trade our 2015/2017 first rounders and perhaps more for him?
C) How do you explain his incredibly poor play for much of the season and the post-season, where he'll have to sit out just to keep up with ATL?
D) Is he so good at preventing layups that it's worth spending 1/4 of our cap space on a guy who is one-dimensional? Sub-par rebounder, non-existent offensive threat, etc.


Would I give up 2015 / 2017 1st rd picks ? Hell yeah


The Mavs could trade Dalembert + Mekel + James $5.2 Million SNT with early Bird rights + 2015 + 2017 + 2019 1st Rd Picks + 2016 Memphis 2nd rd Pick + $3 Million cash ..

Why for Indiana ? They get 3 1st rd picks + they would have $7-10 Million in cap space ( Depending on if they kept / waived Dalembert ) after re-signing Stephenson . If they just kept Dalembert this saves the Pacers $22.6 Million over the next 2 years . If they kept Dalembert and signed some player for $7 Million it still saves them $8 Million over the next 2 years .

And keeps them out of the luxury tax


Why would Dallas do it ? Hibbert is still a great Center that just needs a change of scenery . He will also only be 28 years old next season and the Mavs could still have enough to sign Melo ..


If you are Melo and Dallas trades for Hibbert would that convince you to sign with the Mavs ? The Mavs could basically pay Melo $20 Million , Dirk $9 Million , then trade for Hibbert and still have enough money to bring back most of the team


PG-Calderon / Harris / Larkin
SG-Ellis / Carter / Ledo
SF-Melo / Marion / Crowder
PF-Dirk / Melo / Dallas 2nd rd pick or Vet Min Player
C-Dalembert / Wright / Blair / Boston Pick ( Nurkic or Taveras )


Melo wouldn't have to worry about
1-If the Knicks can build a brand new winning Roster around him in 2 years and a new coach .
2-If Harden will give him the ball or not . Plus the fact Houston needs a new coach .
3-Whether or not Rose comes back to anything near all star quality ( Big If ? )


Even if Dirk retired in 2 years the Mavs would still have a solid core of
Hibbert 30 years old
Ellis 31 years old
Melo 32 years old
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