General NBA watching thread 2007/2008 - Page 51 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Robillion · 03-16-2008, 04:36 PM

If the Cavs finish with the 3rd seed in the East somehow then I think it should goto Lebron. If the Hornets finish with a top 3 seed in the West it would be hard to argue against Chris Paul. But damn... Kobe should win one one of these days. I would not feel bad at all if either Kobe, Lebron, or Chris Paul get it.. I would question anyone else. Including TMac.

I know one thing.. Kobe HAS to get an MVP before his career is over and Lebron James is undoubtedly going to grab like 4+ at the rate he is going. He just needs a better team.

Im rooting for Lebron James. He's a good guy.

Five-ofan · 03-16-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AxdemxO

I know a lot of you dont agree with me.

Hers 2 things

1. MVP will be out of the West ....Probably between Paul, T Mac and Kobe
2. IMO whoever gets their team the first seed..they should win it.

Lakers 1st = Kobe MVP
Rockets 1st = T Mac MVP
Hornets 1st = Paul MVP

since none of those teams are going to end up first who do you think should get it? id bet a decent amount the mavs end up being the first seed.

Dim499 · 03-16-2008, 04:46 PM

Is anyone else amazed at Battier and the montage they showed at the start of the 2nd half where he reached in between Kobe's arms as Kobe went up to shoot and completely blocked his vision on 5 different shots?
I've been paying attention to it this half, and he does it every single time, Kobe has to shoot every shot blind. I've never seen that done this consistently.

twistaeffect2004 · 03-16-2008, 04:49 PM

man, the Rockets are playing with unbelievable confidence right now. This is amazing to watch.

sike · 03-16-2008, 04:51 PM

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man, the Rockets are playing with unbelievable confidence right now. This is amazing to watch.

how funny will it be when they lose in the first round?

twistaeffect2004 · 03-16-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

how funny will it be when they lose in the first round?

Ya never know. I know T-Macs history and the Rockets recent history as choke artists. But when a team is playing like this, you can throw that out the window. This team can beat anyone in the entire league.

sike · 03-16-2008, 04:57 PM

those fans are great

Dirkadirkastan · 03-16-2008, 04:57 PM

They haven't beat anyone in the entire league.

At full strength. Damn them and their luck.

sike · 03-16-2008, 04:57 PM

Alston went out of his mind today

Nash13 · 03-16-2008, 04:58 PM

If i got the boot from a team, i wouldn't be praising them as highly as Jeff Van Gundy is. I mean, he thinks T-Mac is MVP, Scola is ROY, and Alston is the 2nd best in the league this season. Come on.

Further more, the Rockets have played two or three good teams. If i were a Mav/Warrior/Sun/Spur/Jazz/Hornets/Laker/Nugget fan, i'd be dying to play this team in the playoffs. They rely more on hustle than skill, they have zero options in the frontcourt, and all you really have to do is chase that team off the 3pt line.

sike · 03-16-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

They haven't beat anyone in the entire league.

At full strength. Damn them and their luck.

there is a lot to be said for this point

sike · 03-16-2008, 04:59 PM

kobe 11-33

AxdemxO · 03-16-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

how funny will it be when they lose in the first round?

As funny as it was when we lost last year : )

AxdemxO · 03-16-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

kobe 11-33

Once again thats why hes not the MVP....This team is not a title contender without Pau

Dim499 · 03-16-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

kobe 11-33

You should say: Battier 22 msf

Five-ofan · 03-16-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nash13

If i got the boot from a team, i wouldn't be praising them as highly as Jeff Van Gundy is. I mean, he thinks T-Mac is MVP, Scola is ROY, and Alston is the 2nd best in the league this season. Come on.

Further more, the Rockets have played two or three good teams. If i were a Mav/Warrior/Sun/Spur/Jazz/Hornets/Laker/Nugget fan, i'd be dying to play this team in the playoffs. They rely more on hustle than skill, they have zero options in the frontcourt, and all you really have to do is chase that team off the 3pt line.

if i were a nugget fan id be dying for anyone in the playoffs because they arent going to make the playoffs. which btw is pretty funny considering the loaded talent that team has.

AxdemxO · 03-16-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nash13

If i got the boot from a team, i wouldn't be praising them as highly as Jeff Van Gundy is. I mean, he thinks T-Mac is MVP, Scola is ROY, and Alston is the 2nd best in the league this season. Come on.

Further more, the Rockets have played two or three good teams. If i were a Mav/Warrior/Sun/Spur/Jazz/Hornets/Laker/Nugget fan, i'd be dying to play this team in the playoffs. They rely more on hustle than skill, they have zero options in the frontcourt, and all you really have to do is chase that team off the 3pt line.

Ahhhh sounds soo easy ; )

sike · 03-16-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AxdemxO

Once again thats why hes not the MVP....This team is not a title contender without Pau

he has one bad game and all of a sudden is isn't a MVP candidate? Come on...Kobe is the best player in the league!

Five-ofan · 03-16-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

Kobe is the best player in the league!

that might have been true at some point last year but theres no justification for that now. aside from shoot 3s, lebron does every single thing better than kobe. its really not all that close. lebron is the most clear cut best player in the league since 00 shaq.

Dirkadirkastan · 03-16-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AxdemxO

As funny as it was when we lost last year : )

What, you like the Rockets?

Thou shalt be captured, flogged, and placed in the stocks. There, thou shalt be mocked, scorned, and have rotten eggs and tomatoes thrown at thy face by moral, upstanding citizens.

Dim499 · 03-16-2008, 05:11 PM

The confidence of Kobe Bryant is incredible. He knows he has no chance to get open, he will not see the basket once he goes up, he will not have a 50% or better chance that the ball is going in, but he takes 30+ shots anyway. That's a guy who's at least trying out there to carry these other bums who are stealing money from the Lakers.

Five-ofan · 03-16-2008, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dim499

The confidence of Kobe Bryant is incredible. He knows he has no chance to get open, he will not see the basket once he goes up, he will not have a 50% or better chance that the ball is going in, but he takes 30+ shots anyway. That's a guy who's at least trying out there to carry these other bums who are stealing money from the Lakers.

you see a guy trying to carry a team, i see a guy who almost single handedly lost a game that those "bums" kept close till the end. kobe had the biggest negative impact on the game for the lakers.

Nash13 · 03-16-2008, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AxdemxO

Ahhhh sounds soo easy ; )

In their 22 game streak, they've won against 4 contenders. Twice against New Orleans, which granted, is good. Once against a Dallas team w/o Dirk, and another with a Lakers team w/o Gasol. They've beat some mediocre/decent teams along the way, but most the teams they beat were bad.

Well answer me this, who out of the 8 teams there would you want to play most in the 1st round?

Nash13 · 03-16-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

you see a guy trying to carry a team, i see a guy who almost single handedly lost a game that those "bums" kept close till the end. kobe had the biggest negative impact on the game for the lakers.

I wouldn't say single handedly. Not one person on that Lakers team played well today. Maybe Fisher and/or Walton.

GuerillaBlack · 03-16-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

They haven't beat anyone in the entire league.

At full strength. Damn them and their luck.

Yao is out, too, so the Rockets aren't at full strength.

Nash13, please don't forget that the Rockets are without their best player.

Caseman · 03-16-2008, 05:18 PM

I say, "Who cares?" This isn't the Lkaers that are going to be in the playoffs. This is a Bynum-less, Gasol-less team, the same team that lost to the Cavs before aquiring Pau. Rockets have their streak, fine. But I think it's starting to take a toll on McGrady though. During the game, they were talking about how he felt tired, even in practice, and it showed throughout this game. Like the Patriots, I think it would be wise for the Rockets to lose one game (though I think it's going to happen soon anyway), or else they will over exhaust themselves.

Caseman · 03-16-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

Yao is out, too, so the Rockets aren't at full strength.

Nash13, please don't forget that the Rockets are without their best player.

Will you hush up about Yao? He is gone for the season, for the playoffs. Gasol and Dirk are going to be active for their teams, which you luckily didn't face at full strength. It's arrogant people like you, sitting on your high-horses, that make people want the Rockets to fail.

Nash13 · 03-16-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

Yao is out, too, so the Rockets aren't at full strength.

Nash13, please don't forget that the Rockets are without their best player.

Uh, do you want to know the Rockets record this year against Dallas this year when they have Yao?

I think this streak is pretty amazing yet overhyped. I mean, even when you play mostly bad teams, showing up that many nights in a row is good. But if they had a 5 games stretch where in 4 of those games, you play the Spurs(healthy), the Hornets(healthy), the Jazz(healthy), and the Lakers(healthy), they'd more than likely still be in 7th place.

RonMexico · 03-16-2008, 05:38 PM

It's inane to believe that as bad as the Mavs played against Houston some odd games ago they believe that Dirk would have made a difference. They were terrible and were dispatched thusly for that WNBA-esk performance. The only Mav with anything to say about that game was Erica but like I said it was a WNBA worthy performance.

As close as the west is this year it's amazing that anyone would gush over the ability for other teams to remain healthy when it's Houston that's been effected the most.

Five-ofan · 03-16-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RonMexico

It's inane to believe that as bad as the Mavs played against Houston some odd games ago they believe that Dirk would have made a difference. They were terrible and were dispatched thusly for that WNBA-esk performance. The only Mav with anything to say about that game was Erica but like I said it was a WNBA worthy performance.

As close as the west is this year it's amazing that anyone would gush over the ability for other teams to remain healthy when it's Houston that's been effected the most.

the thing is its a completely different game with dirk in there.

Caseman · 03-16-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RonMexico

It's inane to believe that as bad as the Mavs played against Houston some odd games ago they believe that Dirk would have made a difference. They were terrible and were dispatched thusly for that WNBA-esk performance. The only Mav with anything to say about that game was Erica but like I said it was a WNBA worthy performance.

As close as the west is this year it's amazing that anyone would gush over the ability for other teams to remain healthy when it's Houston that's been effected the most.

Read what Nash13 had to say:

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Originally Posted by Nash13

Uh, do you want to know the Rockets record this year against Dallas this year when they have Yao?

I think this streak is pretty amazing yet overhyped. I mean, even when you play mostly bad teams, showing up that many nights in a row is good. But if they had a 5 games stretch where in 4 of those games, you play the Spurs(healthy), the Hornets(healthy), the Jazz(healthy), and the Lakers(healthy), they'd more than likely still be in 7th place.

RonMexico · 03-16-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

the thing is its a completely different game with dirk in there.

Like it was in Utah?

Five-ofan · 03-16-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RonMexico

Like it was in Utah?

utah has actually beaten us with dirk in recent memory. houston, not so much.

dirno2000 · 03-16-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dim499

Is anyone else amazed at Battier and the montage they showed at the start of the 2nd half where he reached in between Kobe's arms as Kobe went up to shoot and completely blocked his vision on 5 different shots?
I've been paying attention to it this half, and he does it every single time, Kobe has to shoot every shot blind. I've never seen that done this consistently.

Noticed that myself. I wonder why more players don't use that technique. You have almost no chance of blocking a jump shot so why not just go to the eyes?

RonMexico · 03-16-2008, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Caseman

Read what Nash13 had to say:

I'll take #1 and 22 wins in a row over the alternative.

Five-ofan · 03-16-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

Noticed that myself. I wonder why more players don't use that technique. You have almost no chance of blocking a jump shot so why not just go to the eyes?

alot of people do it, most people just dont do it EVERY time.

RonMexico · 03-16-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

utah has actually beaten us with dirk in recent memory. houston, not so much.

Well thank goodness Dallas isn't the team to beat to get the finals this year. WHEW!

Guess who else has our number this year? The 76ers.

Nash13 · 03-16-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RonMexico

I'll take #1 and 22 wins in a row over the alternative.

In that case, i'll take 8th and whatever over our alternative.

As bad as Dallas has been on the road this season, you could give every game in a series vs Houston on their court, and we'd still win in 5.

Nash13 · 03-16-2008, 06:06 PM

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Well thank goodness Dallas isn't the team to beat to get the finals this year. WHEW!

Guess who else has our number this year? The 76ers.

You can be smug all you want, but Houston is not going out of the 1st round. I think even GS, the weakest team in the west, could beat Houston in a 7 game series.

RonMexico · 03-16-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nash13

You can be smug all you want, but Houston is not going out of the 1st round. I think even GS, the weakest team in the west, could beat Houston in a 7 game series.

Let me be real here. I'm not trying to be smug. I'm just assassinating weak ASSumptions here. To me it would be unfortunate if we don't get out of the first round HOWEVER I'm just glad I have something to watch in the playoffs. After Yao went down I didn't think we would last but two more days in the chase. This is all gravy and mashed potatoes to me.