Mavericks trade Kristaps Porzingis to Washington

[BigDog63]

Food for thought:

Kristaps Porziņģis is the 68th player in the NBA with the most games missed this season, has played more games than DeAndre Ayton, Anthony Davis, Jimmy Butler, Damian Lillard and many other big name stars. KAT has also missed more games since KP joined Dallas.

Unless the med staff told the FO something we don't know about, this seems like a pretty massive overreaction by the FO. Big men miss games. They just do. The bigger they are, the more games they tend to miss. Lots of stress on their bodies/joints/etc.

[saclare]

Originally Posted by BigDog63

Food for thought:

Kristaps Porziņģis is the 68th player in the NBA with the most games missed this season, has played more games than DeAndre Ayton, Anthony Davis, Jimmy Butler, Damian Lillard and many other big name stars. KAT has also missed more games since KP joined Dallas.

Unless the med staff told the FO something we don't know about, this seems like a pretty massive overreaction by the FO. Big men miss games. They just do. The bigger they are, the more games they tend to miss. Lots of stress on their bodies/joints/etc.

Best ability is availability, and when you couple it with having as big of a contract, it's tough to manage a roster and cohesiveness among players.

AD has missed a lot of games and it's severely hurt the Lakers. Fortunately we have a better constructed team, but his absence is the same. That goes for KAT as well, just can't count of some of these guys.

You left out Jokic, Gobert, and some others, too.

[BPo001]

Originally Posted by BigDog63

Food for thought:

Kristaps Porziņģis is the 68th player in the NBA with the most games missed this season, has played more games than DeAndre Ayton, Anthony Davis, Jimmy Butler, Damian Lillard and many other big name stars. KAT has also missed more games since KP joined Dallas.

Unless the med staff told the FO something we don't know about, this seems like a pretty massive overreaction by the FO. Big men miss games. They just do. The bigger they are, the more games they tend to miss. Lots of stress on their bodies/joints/etc.

Does that factor in games missed due to Covid though? I was just thinking last week how nice KAT would look here instead of KP. I think the initial shock of the trade has worn off. Sucks that we are stuck with Bertans and his trash contract, but SD should (hopefully) be a serviceable player. Only hope is that they both guys can get their stock to rise, and we move them in the offseason. KP has star potential, but I won’t miss wondering whether or not he is going to be able to play. Everytime he dunked the ball and landed on one foot I kept waiting for his leg to snap in half.

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by BigDog63

Food for thought:

Kristaps Porziņģis is the 68th player in the NBA with the most games missed this season, has played more games than DeAndre Ayton, Anthony Davis, Jimmy Butler, Damian Lillard and many other big name stars. KAT has also missed more games since KP joined Dallas.

Unless the med staff told the FO something we don't know about, this seems like a pretty massive overreaction by the FO. Big men miss games. They just do. The bigger they are, the more games they tend to miss. Lots of stress on their bodies/joints/etc.

Need context though. KP is still hurt. Who knows how long this goes on for.

Dame, KAT, and Ayton have seasons where they play most games. And KP hasnt played a mostly full season since 2015 with 71 games.

Unfortunately this is who he is at 7'2. It was never going to improve.

[BigDog63]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

Need context though. KP is still hurt. Who knows how long this goes on for.

Dame, KAT, and Ayton have seasons where they play most games. And KP hasnt played a mostly full season since 2015 with 71 games.

Unfortunately this is who he is at 7'2. It was never going to improve.

Probably not, although the same could have been said for Tyson Chandler, at a much older age (and therefore even longer history of missing games)..and he played most of the season.

But, even if he doesn't, wasn't really pointing out that KP isn't actually as injury prone, compared to other NBA players, as people think. If you listen to the talking heads, you'd think he missed WAY more games than anyone else in the NBA, and that's far far from true.

But, not, we don't know what the future looks like, either.

[Dallas41]

Originally Posted by BigDog63

Probably not, although the same could have been said for Tyson Chandler, at a much older age (and therefore even longer history of missing games)..and he played most of the season.

But, even if he doesn't, wasn't really pointing out that KP isn't actually as injury prone, compared to other NBA players, as people think. If you listen to the talking heads, you'd think he missed WAY more games than anyone else in the NBA, and that's far far from true.

But, not, we don't know what the future looks like, either.

Yeah Tyson was always injured before coming to Dallas.

But as of today's players is KP really any different from Anthony Davis or Zion?

Those two guys are injured just as much but like you said most fans would assume KP misses more games than all other players in NBA.

The trade is over now but I do think KP took more criticism then warranted especially since Rick used him incorrectly and the Mavs never truly got a secondary ball handler while both KP and Luka were here together.

The FO was just as much to blame for it's roster building approach

[saclare]

Originally Posted by BigDog63

Probably not, although the same could have been said for Tyson Chandler, at a much older age (and therefore even longer history of missing games)..and he played most of the season.

But, even if he doesn't, wasn't really pointing out that KP isn't actually as injury prone, compared to other NBA players, as people think. If you listen to the talking heads, you'd think he missed WAY more games than anyone else in the NBA, and that's far far from true.

But, not, we don't know what the future looks like, either.

He's missed a hell of a lot of games while taking up 25-30% of the cap space. That's really the only qualifier to me with perhaps maybe fit being another.

I think there's a short list of the first point and that's where KP comes in, along with AD, though the latter is obviously better than KP when healthy.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by BigDog63

Food for thought:

Kristaps Porziņģis is the 68th player in the NBA with the most games missed this season, has played more games than DeAndre Ayton, Anthony Davis, Jimmy Butler, Damian Lillard and many other big name stars. KAT has also missed more games since KP joined Dallas.

Unless the med staff told the FO something we don't know about, this seems like a pretty massive overreaction by the FO. Big men miss games. They just do. The bigger they are, the more games they tend to miss. Lots of stress on their bodies/joints/etc.

Food for thought:

Unlike those people listed, KP isn't a star when healthy. Stars impact the game. Lillard takes over and wins games. Davis (at least the Anthony Davis of 3-4 years ago) dominated games. KP does not change the game and he doesn't even put up the numbers he puts up efficiently.

Since KP was a rookie, he was always billed as a future star. Six years in and he's still not a star. How long do we keep billing him as a star before we realize that he's just a decent player.

[Dallas41]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Food for thought:

Unlike those people listed, KP isn't a star when healthy. Stars impact the game. Lillard takes over and wins games. Davis (at least the Anthony Davis of 3-4 years ago) dominated games. KP does not change the game and he doesn't even put up the numbers he puts up efficiently.

Since KP was a rookie, he was always billed as a future star. Six years in and he's still not a star. How long do we keep billing him as a star before we realize that he's just a decent player.

Anthony Davis hasn't been a star the last two years. In fact, he's already proved he can't carry a team. Lakers fans are just as down on him as Mavs fans were with KP.

And as for KAT you could argue he puts up #'s but prior to this year those #'s weren't really leading to any wins.

They are both talented players, but I think both guys are a bit overrated in terms of their impact to actually winning games.

[Dallas41]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Food for thought:

Unlike those people listed, KP isn't a star when healthy. Stars impact the game. Lillard takes over and wins games. Davis (at least the Anthony Davis of 3-4 years ago) dominated games. KP does not change the game and he doesn't even put up the numbers he puts up efficiently.

Since KP was a rookie, he was always billed as a future star. Six years in and he's still not a star. How long do we keep billing him as a star before we realize that he's just a decent player.

Found this to be very interesting about Anthony Davis

He's missed 56 of his last 130 games.

In the last two years the Lakers are 36-38 with Davis and 28-28 without him.