2019 NBA Offseason Thread - Page 5 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2019, 11:33 PM

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Ha!

EricaLubarsky · 07-02-2019, 01:36 AM

Underdog · 07-02-2019, 09:41 AM

@ShamsCharania: In a rare gesture rewarding Lou Williams' play and leadership, the Los Angeles Clippers and Sixth Man of the Year have agreed to completely guarantee his $8M salary for 2020-21 a full season ahead, agent Wallace Prather told @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

BPo001 · 07-02-2019, 12:36 PM

Philadelphia has offered a five-year, $168M maximum contract extension to Ben Simmons and the Sixers and agent Rich Paul are expected to work through the details toward an eventual agreement, league sources tell ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 2, 2019

Dtownsfinest · 07-02-2019, 03:35 PM

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@ShamsCharania: In a rare gesture rewarding Lou Williams' play and leadership, the Los Angeles Clippers and Sixth Man of the Year have agreed to completely guarantee his $8M salary for 2020-21 a full season ahead, agent Wallace Prather told @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

Who wouldn't want to guarantee their best player 8 million lol? I like how that's being called a "good gesture" lol.

EricaLubarsky · 07-02-2019, 04:24 PM

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BPo001 · 07-02-2019, 07:56 PM

Pat Beverly said he left money on the table to stay in LA. Had a 3 year/$50 mil offer from the Kings.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-02-2019, 08:36 PM

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Pat Beverly said he left money on the table to stay in LA. Had a 3 year/$50 mil offer from the Kings.

Well...
https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status...21890822656000

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On this front, source says Kings offered $35 million over three years with partial guarantee in third year

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Clarification: There was a partial in third year, but the guaranteed total was $35 million over three years

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-02-2019, 10:25 PM

And what was the Mavs offer to Beverly? Was there one?

Thespiralgoeson · 07-02-2019, 10:27 PM

Good GOD the Knicks are terrible. If you ever are embarrassed about anything the Mavs do, just remember that the Knicks exist, and you'll feel a lot better.

BPo001 · 07-02-2019, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Well...
https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status...21890822656000

Weird. Bev himself said on The Jump it was 3 for $50 mil

j0Shi · 07-03-2019, 03:36 AM

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And what was the Mavs offer to Beverly? Was there one?

I assume he just wanted to stay in LA. But Mavs might have known about SAC offer and didn't want to top it. Not sure I would have paid that amount tbh. Hurts, but sometimes it's outside your control.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-03-2019, 04:19 AM

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I assume he just wanted to stay in LA. But Mavs might have known of SAC offer and didn't want to top it. Not sure I would have paid that amunt tbh. Hurts, but sometimes it's outside your control.

I think some of the "media" implying we'd get him is what really pissed people off...not that he was some great catch. A good fit with Doncic, no question, but is he really much better than Brunson if at all overall?

And Curry really is as good of a fit offensively as he was defensively for much cheaper.

EricaLubarsky · 07-03-2019, 10:11 AM

Memphis dumping Parsons— on ATL

To be waived?

EricaLubarsky · 07-03-2019, 10:31 AM

Cousins, after not getting any interest has changed agents

Because his agent was the problem

Bryan_Wilson · 07-03-2019, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Good GOD the Knicks are terrible. If you ever are embarrassed about anything the Mavs do, just remember that the Knicks exist, and you'll feel a lot better.

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On his way from the Nets to Lakers,
@JaredDudley619
tells The Woj Pod: “When Kevin Durant comes...no one's going to be like, 'Who are the Knicks getting in 2021?' No one is going to care."

It does bring a smile to my face.

BPo001 · 07-03-2019, 12:38 PM

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It does bring a smile to my face.

Everyone is assuming KD comes back to be the best player the the NBA. It will be interesting to see how he looks when he returns from his injury. I still think he will be a really good scorer, but won’t be a top 3 player in the league.

EricaLubarsky · 07-03-2019, 01:20 PM

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Everyone is assuming KD comes back to be the best player the the NBA. It will be interesting to see how he looks when he returns from his injury. I still think he will be a really good scorer, but won’t be a top 3 player in the league.

It's still a good wager.

For teams like the Mavs, Brooklyn, and now the Knicks-- teams that aren't free agent meccas, then there are very few ways to get a superstar.

1) Draft - the odds are surprisingly low for lottery picks. While the first overall pick has over a 50% chance of netting a star (based on historical stats), very few superstars come out of the draft. Only about 1 of 10 top 5 picks become superstars so you can draft in the top five for a decade without ever getting a transcendant talent.

2) Trades - Lakers are a destination for FAs, but they still spent basically a decade of draft picks to get AD. That's a lot. Getting a superstar via trade is fairly rare and always expensive.

3) Something like this. Sure you may spend 164 million on a guy who may never return to the same form, but if he drops to merely being a star, you're still doing okay. If he comes back as a top 3-5 player in the league, then you absolutely pulled off a major coup and something that basically statistically never happens.

BPo001 · 07-03-2019, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Cousins, after not getting any interest has changed agents

Because his agent was the problem

He changed to Jeff Schwartz who the Mavs have a good relationship with. Does that open the door for Cousins to the Mavs? Wasn’t Cuban interested in Boogie before the injuries?

Underdog · 07-03-2019, 03:30 PM

@wojespn: The Grizzlies are trading Kyle Korver and Jevon Carter to the Suns for DeAnthony Melton, Josh Jackson 2020 second-round pick and 2021 conditional second-round pick, league sources tell ESPN.

@wojespn: The Grizzlies make a run at resurrecting the No. 4 overall pick in the 2017 NBA Draft, Josh Jackson.

@wojespn: Suns are planning to buyout the partially guaranteed contract of Kyle Korver, league sources tell ESPN. Lakers, Sixers and Bucks are frontrunners to sign Korver once he clears waivers, sources said.

EricaLubarsky · 07-03-2019, 03:53 PM

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@wojespn: The Grizzlies are trading Kyle Korver and Jevon Carter to the Suns for DeAnthony Melton, Josh Jackson 2020 second-round pick and 2021 conditional second-round pick, league sources tell ESPN.

@wojespn: The Grizzlies make a run at resurrecting the No. 4 overall pick in the 2017 NBA Draft, Josh Jackson.

@wojespn: Suns are planning to buyout the partially guaranteed contract of Kyle Korver, league sources tell ESPN. Lakers, Sixers and Bucks are frontrunners to sign Korver once he clears waivers, sources said.

But why?

Underdog · 07-03-2019, 04:11 PM

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But why?

@wojespn: Josh Jackson is a free-look for the Grizzlies, but Melton is a prospect that Memphis has long evaluated as a prospect with some staying power. Suns future second-round picks typically convey in the low-to-mid 30's. Suns save $5.5M on Korver buyout vs. Jackson salary.

@davidaldridgedc: Added motivation for Suns’ flurry of deals today, per source, is putting team in better position to re-sign RFA @KELLYOUBREJR. Sides have not yet fully engaged.

Dtownsfinest · 07-03-2019, 05:11 PM

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@wojespn: Josh Jackson is a free-look for the Grizzlies, but Melton is a prospect that Memphis has long evaluated as a prospect with some staying power. Suns future second-round picks typically convey in the low-to-mid 30's. Suns save $5.5M on Korver buyout vs. Jackson salary.

@davidaldridgedc: Added motivation for Suns’ flurry of deals today, per source, is putting team in better position to re-sign RFA @KELLYOUBREJR. Sides have not yet fully engaged.

I get what they're saying but I have no idea what they are doing. Josh Jackson is young and cheap. I don't think Oubre is that great of a player to let him go for nothing just to see what he has. But they know him better than I do.

sefant77 · 07-03-2019, 06:24 PM

Josh Jackson is an idiot and has solid chancen to be out of the league after his rookie contract

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On February 2, 2017 it was reported by the Kansas City Star that Jackson and Kansas teammate LaGerald Vick were persons of interest in a vandalism case that had occurred the previous December outside a bar in Lawrence. [39] It was alleged that Jackson and Vick had damaged the car of McKenzie Calvert, a KU women's basketball player and Vick's ex-girlfriend.[40] She told police that during the incident outside the bar, Jackson yelled "for her to get out of the car and that he would beat her ass” prior to damaging her car.[40] Following the investigation by police, Jackson was charged with one count of misdemeanor criminal damage to property and was scheduled to be arraigned on April 12.[41] Following the announcement of the charges, Jackson released a statement apologizing for his role in the incident and offered to pay for damages

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Jackson was arrested in Miami at a “Rolling Loud” concert on May 12, 2019 for allegedly attempting to enter the VIP entrance several times and reportedly attempting to evade police while being arrested

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Suns' Josh Jackson Accused of Getting Infant Daughter High on Marijuana

Underdog · 07-05-2019, 07:46 PM

@wojespn: The Grizzlies are trading CJ Miles to Washington for Dwight Howard, league source tells ESPN. Deal saves Memphis $3.1M. Grizzles will waive or trade Howard, per source.

Male30Dan · 07-06-2019, 01:05 AM

Wow! Kawhi to Clips + George...

Thebo · 07-06-2019, 03:13 AM

My first reaction was 'wtf are Thunder doing' but as it appears, PG13 requested the trade. Totally unexpected move that makes one wonder if Jerry West was pulling these strings for their agent to request a trade. Poor Westbrook.... OKC was not going anywhere but at least were fun to watch.

BPo001 · 07-06-2019, 08:12 AM

Trade deets:

The Clippers are sending the Thunder four unprotected first-round picks, one protected first-round pick and two pick swaps, league sources tell ESPN. Those picks go to OKC with Gallinari and SGA.

Marc Stein of The New York Times later clarified that OKC's picks broke down to the Clippers' unprotected firsts in 2022, '24 and '26, along with Miami firsts in '21 (unprotected; acquired in the Tobias Harris trade) and '23 (protected 1-14; acquired in the reported four-team Jimmy Butler trade days ago) as well as pick swaps in '23 and '25.

j0Shi · 07-06-2019, 08:12 AM

Here's a funny thing coming out of the Kawhi thriller: Nobody wants to play with LeBron. Here's the list of stars actively joining him since forming the Heatles: Anthony Davis. That's it.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-06-2019, 09:26 AM

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Here's a funny thing coming out of the Kawhi thriller: Nobody wants to play with LeBron. Here's the list of stars actively joining him since forming the Heatles: Anthony Davis. That's it.

And relying on their health is a big gamble. Is Anthony Davis ever healthy? We will see...

turin · 07-06-2019, 10:01 AM

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And relying on their health is a big gamble. Is Anthony Davis ever healthy? We will see...

I think there is a fairly decent chance (30-40%) that the Lakers and/or the Nets have spectacular meltdowns due to their moves this off-season. The spectre of injury will be hanging around both of those teams like the grim reaper.

On a positive note, Carlisle is going to have to play some younger guys even more, so I'll definitely be rooting for more than a couple to make major steps forward in development. Obviously, the biggest candidates in order to me are Luka, Brunson, and Jackson (potentially huge if he really steps up). I think there is a decent chance that Jackson becomes one of the legitimate starters that we need this season, and Seth can be a part-time starter depending upon matchups.

I'm also tempted to see if Dragic could be had now that the dust has settled.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-06-2019, 10:06 AM

Oh especially the Nets who really only have Kyrie and Jordan this season. Good luck with that.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-06-2019, 10:09 AM

Not gonna lie, I really like that Clippers roster. That's a lot of defense on the perimeter and still a fantastic offense. Not in love with the front court depth but guys will join that team on buyouts 100%.

turin · 07-06-2019, 10:10 AM

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Oh especially the Nets who really only have Kyrie and Jordan this season. Good luck with that.

Exactly

turin · 07-06-2019, 10:15 AM

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Not gonna lie, I really like that Clippers roster. That's a lot of defense on the perimeter and still a fantastic offense. Not in love with the front court depth but guys will join that team on buyouts 100%.

Yeah, on paper, a Clippers v. 76'ers Final would be somewhat of an old school defensive throwback matchup. At least to the degree possible within today's rules.

Underdog · 07-06-2019, 10:41 AM

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Not gonna lie, I really like that Clippers roster. That's a lot of defense on the perimeter and still a fantastic offense. Not in love with the front court depth but guys will join that team on buyouts 100%.

After the playoffs I was convinced that the Clippers were one Kawhi away from being a legit contender... Then they added him AND PG13... Right now they’re my favorite to win it all this year.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-06-2019, 10:50 AM

Especially with Montrezl Harrell who is the most underrated player in the league. He might be my favorite non-Mav player.

EricaLubarsky · 07-06-2019, 11:12 AM

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After the playoffs I was convinced that the Clippers were one Kawhi away from being a legit contender... Then they added him AND PG13... Right now they’re my favorite to win it all this year.

This.

Which makes me really happy that they’ll wreck the Lakers

Old Lebron, AD, and a bunch of spares will be okay but won’t be able to beat the team defense of the Clippers

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-06-2019, 01:57 PM

Lakers re-sign Rondo. All is well in the universe.

EricaLubarsky · 07-06-2019, 02:02 PM

Good. Now sign Melo and Monta