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jthig32 · 01-17-2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dalmations202

This trade doesn't thrill me at all.

Really it does nothing for the team, except change names on the back of a jersey or two.

Dallas is still mediocre.

It's about the salaries.

tcat075 · 01-17-2009, 12:31 AM

Ryan Hollins.

Is he honestly 7 feet? Is that honestly the right Hollins? Because 7 footers are not suppose to do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5E5S...eature=related

And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Nx4...eature=related

chumdawg · 01-17-2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MaVs 41 BaLler

Damn I bet Diop was clueless and shocked.

Then he went to the ATM, hit "check balance," and was cool again.

jthig32 · 01-17-2009, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

Then he went to the ATM, hit "check balance," and was cool again.

So true. So true.

And in reality, he's probably happy to be going somewhere where (presumeably) he will play more. He said as much already.

Dirkenstien · 01-17-2009, 01:02 AM

I'm liking the deal. Looking forward to more deals to come.

SMC0007 · 01-17-2009, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tcat075

Ryan Hollins.

Is he honestly 7 feet? Is that honestly the right Hollins? Because 7 footers are not suppose to do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5E5S...eature=related

And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Nx4...eature=related

MAybe he's a 7 foot GGreen... I just like that he can actually catch and FINISH..He is light years past Diop in athleticism, so there's a plus in regards to Kidd. Could be interesting to watch on the break

SMC0007 · 01-17-2009, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkenstien

I'm liking the deal. Looking forward to more deals to come.

Me too, on both.. I like this part.

mac222b · 01-17-2009, 01:22 AM

I think that if J-Ho for Kaman was an option we'd be all over it but the LAC have little motivation to do it. They have Thornton who's arguably better.

quietsavant · 01-17-2009, 01:28 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpiRwc7zSOA

Carroll highlights. If you care. One more thing, be sure to mute it, or maybe its me, at my age I cant listen to that ruckus

mac222b · 01-17-2009, 01:34 AM

This is where the GM's job gets tough. Do we deal Stack for an Earl Watson type or hold on in hopes of including him in a larger deal. Stack for Felton is a no brainer because of the buy low, upside factor. We know what Watson is. Steady,unspectacular,unselfish, solid borderline starting PG. Great backup for a playoff team. So we either get someone like Watson or include Stack in a larger deal w/ J-Ho or our pick. Probably leaning toward the latter. Wait and see if a big name becomes available. I wonder if we're actually done until this summer, current speculation aside. Maybe more big names become available when we can include a 1st rd. pick.

Tokey41 · 01-17-2009, 01:37 AM

Watch Diop turn into the most improved player/borderline all-star next season. I don't know if I could take that.

Windmill360 · 01-17-2009, 01:38 AM

We'd like to welcome to the mavericks our newest players, Matt Carroll and *looks at teleprompter* Rrr.. Ryan Hollins.

SMC0007 · 01-17-2009, 01:39 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCAug...eature=related

here's some too.

quietsavant · 01-17-2009, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCAug...eature=related

here's some too.

Wow He's a shot blocker too?? Im loosening my pants and Taking off my Depends as we speak

Windmill360 · 01-17-2009, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by quietsavant

Wow He's a shot blocker too?? Im loosening my pants and Taking off my Depends as we speak

did you watch the video?

quietsavant · 01-17-2009, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

did you watch the video?

Almost pissed myself watching that.

Windmill360 · 01-17-2009, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by quietsavant

Almost pissed myself watching that.

just makin surrrrrre

LonghornDub · 01-17-2009, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by quietsavant

Almost pissed myself watching that.

Are you just exhibiting some of the most dry sarcasm of all time here, or are you not realizing that Carroll is the one getting his ass handed to him in that vid?

Just curious.

EricaLubarsky · 01-17-2009, 03:36 AM

arent all white players the same in the NBA? Its hard to tell a Carroll from a Dunleavy from a Reddick

twelli · 01-17-2009, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tokey41

Watch Diop turn into the most improved player/borderline all-star next season. I don't know if I could take that.

What ever happened to the Diop, of which Tony Parker thought he was being a major headache for the Spurs or something...

Rick41 · 01-17-2009, 04:45 AM

He stayed in the 2006 semi's.

fluid.forty.one · 01-17-2009, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

arent all white players the same in the NBA? Its hard to tell a Carroll from a Dunleavy from a Reddick

from a dirk

Thespiralgoeson · 01-17-2009, 04:53 AM

Very good move. Felton would've been nice, but getting rid of Diop's contract is a must. It's really mind-boggling that they actually gave him the full MLE in the first place, but whatever. Getting rid of an overpaid scrub is always a good thing.

dayman · 01-17-2009, 07:22 AM

whatever happened to all the Gerald Wallace talk...is there any real possibility he could end up in Dallas before the deadline?

Underdog · 01-17-2009, 08:16 AM

Well, at least the Dallas FO can admit their mistake in signing Diop to an inflated contract - that's a step in the right direction (although this was probably the backup plan for 'Gana since day 1, given Charlotte's interest in him during the offseason...)

quietsavant · 01-17-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Are you just exhibiting some of the most dry sarcasm of all time here, or are you not realizing that Carroll is the one getting his ass handed to him in that vid?

Just curious.

Thats when sarcasm is the most effective isnt it?

catsil · 01-17-2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tokey41

Watch Diop turn into the most improved player/borderline all-star next season. I don't know if I could take that.

LOL. or maybe I should cry.

tcat075 · 01-17-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

MAybe he's a 7 foot GGreen... I just like that he can actually catch and FINISH..He is light years past Diop in athleticism, so there's a plus in regards to Kidd. Could be interesting to watch on the break

Yup, if you ask me, he looks like he can be a very good fast break player.

So, with another player needing to take an active spot each night, who's going to be inactive. As of late, its been Shawn Williams. Does GG go back? Hope not

dalmations202 · 01-17-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

It's about the salaries.

As I have said before. I do not care about salaries. Mark can overpay or underpay -- as long as he puts a viable team that competes for the championship every year ---- I am happy.

This team right now will not contend. With this trade, (at this time), they still will not contend.

There needs to be a bigger splash coming.

Silk Smoov · 01-17-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dalmations202

As I have said before. I do not care about salaries. Mark can overpay or underpay -- as long as he puts a viable team that competes for the championship every year ---- I am happy.

This team right now will not contend. With this trade, (at this time), they still will not contend.

There needs to be a bigger splash coming.

Glad to see you say they will not "CONTEND"

Flacolaco · 01-17-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

arent all white players the same in the NBA? Its hard to tell a Carroll from a Dunleavy from a Reddick

Where's Silk? I hope he shows up to defend white people

dude1394 · 01-17-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

I'm starting to think the benefits of trading Kidd outweigh resigning him to a reasonable deal. We just have to be ready because some team is going to want to dump a borderline all-star type player or we get back a couple young guys.

I'm starting to lean that way also BUT...having really bad point guard play is tough. Think about if jet was the full-time point now. He'd be pressed the entire game.

jthig32 · 01-17-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dalmations202

As I have said before. I do not care about salaries. Mark can overpay or underpay -- as long as he puts a viable team that competes for the championship every year ---- I am happy.

This team right now will not contend. With this trade, (at this time), they still will not contend.

There needs to be a bigger splash coming.

I get that, but the Mavs' salary commitments have a directo impact on their chance to compete long term.

This move, indirectly, helps the Masvs win in the long term, *if* they use the saved money properly.

bobatundi · 01-17-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

I get that, but the Mavs' salary commitments have a directo impact on their chance to compete long term.

This move, indirectly, helps the Masvs win in the long term, *if* they use the saved money properly.

That's an enormous IF

dude1394 · 01-17-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

A small-sample, probably somewhat contaminated statistical fact that nonetheless tells the story of how little Diop had been providing the Mavericks this year.

- With Gana on the court Dallas was giving up 100 points per 48 minutes. That's slightly more than the 99 points per 48 minutes the Mavs had been giving up with Dirk playing center, and the 99.4 points per 48 minutes they'd been giving up with Bass playing center. Those are flat-out unacceptable numbers for a defensive specialist.

The bottom line on this trade is that the Mavs gave up absolutely nothing of value, saved themselves a bit of money over the next few years, and if things work out, may have at least landed themselves a designated shooter off the bench and a 10 mpg backup center with some athleticism (something they've not had in a long time). If you're in any way upset with this trade, you're just looking for something to be pissed off about.

At the same time, if you're excited about it, you're delusional and should probably check to make sure you're not running a high fever.

Pretty sad when a dirk at center gives up less than diop..Even WORSE is giving up more with Bass at center. Yuck....

Rick really needs to stop playing Bass in the fourth...it ain't working brotha'.

grndmstr_c · 01-17-2009, 01:23 PM

You know, actually, the Mavs for the season are +36 in Bass' clutch minutes (from 82games). Not a big sample, looks to be a bit under 48 minutes worth of qualifying court time, but that's far from not working.

Interesting note for Felton fans, the Star Telegram article about the trade indicated that efforts to acquire Raymond were ongoing.

pepe · 01-17-2009, 01:41 PM

Are the Bobcats the only team willing to deal with the MAVS?

muzak · 01-17-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

You know, actually, the Mavs for the season are +36 in Bass' clutch minutes (from 82games). Not a big sample, looks to be a bit under 48 minutes worth of qualifying court time, but that's far from not working.

Interesting note for Felton fans, the Star Telegram article about the trade indicated that efforts to acquire Raymond were ongoing.

seems like we always give in.

EricaLubarsky · 01-17-2009, 01:42 PM

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Upon the announcement of Friday's trade between the Mavericks and Bobcats, Donnie Nelson said that the possibility of Dallas acquiring Raymond Felton was not dead.

http://www.star-telegram.com/281/story/1148991.html

thats my favorite part of any article about this trade. This very well could be a two-parter.

dude1394 · 01-17-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

arent all white players the same in the NBA? Its hard to tell a Carroll from a Dunleavy from a Reddick

Yup...I think you are correct. The same with all black players in the NBA. It's hard to tell a Felton from an Augustin from a Redd.