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jayC · 08-10-2008, 12:25 AM

I am excited about another fifty win season. Kidd throwing alley-oop passes to Gerald Green and Antoine Wright. I want to see Howard score 40 points in a game one more time. He was playing at an all-star level before he was injured. Rick is a great coach he was there when Jermaine was playing at an MVP level. When Artest hit a fan and they still made it to the playoffs. Josh maybe a little foolish and immature but he isn't the ghetto figure ron ron is.

The Combination of Diop and Dampier is a good duo. Avery had a brain fart two years ago and decided against what had worked for his team to make it to the NBA Finals and win 67 games by playing Diop and Dampier the majority of the center minutes.

The number one reason to be excited is Dirk Nowitzki. The former MVP always works on his game and every year improves an aspect of it. He has made himself a good rebounder, a solid defender and an above average passer. He always has had a knack of hitting big shots. Drinking the Kool Aid
JC

Thespiralgoeson · 08-10-2008, 05:03 AM

50 wins and another early playoff exit. Whoopity doo. Can't wait.

nowhereman · 08-12-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

50 wins and another early playoff exit. Whoopity doo. Can't wait.

ROFL

thank you for that, eeyore

LSMF · 08-10-2008, 08:34 AM

Personally I think this team will be an Average team, they won't suck but they won't be elite anymore though. Since I've been very pessimistic these days Ill be optimistic for now, I think every one will do better under Carlislie just because they don't have to worry about beating their man off the dribble 1 on 1 style any more. Our Defense will improve thanks to Carlislie and the return of Diop. I won't get into my opinion of Kidd on here but all I will say is that I think we need a solid young back up point guard for Kidd ASAP.

Someone like a Marcus Williams or Javaris Crittenton would be perfect for this team, I don't know how we would get them though because we don't have many trade chips left. We need a solid young back up PG SOON...

Zki41 · 08-10-2008, 11:23 AM

I have a dream.. that one day, I could wake up 10 and a half months from now, and smile and think, Carlisle was the answer.

Not all dreams come true.

payne · 08-10-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zki41

I have a dream.. that one day, I could wake up 10 and a half months from now, and smile and think, Carlisle was the answer.

Not all dreams come true.

but this is the Nba, where dreams happen.

Just211 · 08-10-2008, 12:12 PM

I think there is a chance the MAvs surprise a lot of people this year. The problem is, that without acquiring someone new, all our hopes lie in JHO. Remember before the end of the season, when he and one of either Jet and Stack were on, we looked good. Problem is you can't rely on any three of them on any given night. So I think this team will fade in an out of looking great, and being avg. I think the defense will be better with Diop back, and a new coach to regain focus.
But in the end, the playoff hopes will lie in the hands of JHO, and one of either Jet or Stack. JHO needs to step up, and be consistant, and this team will be a top 4 seed. And maybe one of the younguns will surprise and contribute. Point is, with Kidd, we need people to put the ball in the basket. No one could do that against the hornets.

MaVs 41 BaLler · 08-10-2008, 12:25 PM

DFFL

DIRK FAN FOR LIFE

BGMaverick9 · 08-10-2008, 12:31 PM

As long as Dirk is healthy and he's a Maverick, I'm going to believe...he's just that amazing.

TomThaMavsFan · 08-10-2008, 02:49 PM

I believe that the mavs will figure it out and gerald green will have a break out season. Josh howard will weed his way through his issues and have a all star year. GO MAVS

DavidDaMonkey · 08-10-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TomThaMavsFan

I believe that the mavs will figure it out and gerald green will have a break out season. Josh howard will weed his way through his issues and have a all star year. GO MAVS

I see what you did there.

rakesh.s · 08-10-2008, 03:21 PM

struggle for the 8th seed, josh howard hoopla and trade talk all year long, and rick carlisle (who has failed everywhere he has been....couldn't win the ring in Detroit, couldn't get it done in Indiana)......i'll follow the mavs online...it's not worth my time to watch them struggle.

ghazi · 08-10-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rakesh.s

struggle for the 8th seed, josh howard hoopla and trade talk all year long, and rick carlisle (who has failed everywhere he has been....couldn't win the ring in Detroit, couldn't get it done in Indiana)......i'll follow the mavs online...it's not worth my time to watch them struggle.

The Pistons under Carlisle if I recall were only good for 1 year... and even then they were only a 50 win team. They lost 4-0 to the nets in the playoffs, I dunno if getting swept ever means you were outcoached, maybe your team just wasn't good enough... plus they weren't beating the Duncan/Robinson frontline in the Finals, anyway... the ring ensued after the acquisition of Rasheed, which was when larry brown was head coach.

As for the Pacers, they did fall short that one year they won 61 games to a great defensive Piston team in the playoffs... but they were banged up... and the year after, the brawl at the palace kinda sealed their fate in the season.

In any case, I do believe Carlisle is a definite upgrade from Avery.

Kidd Karma · 08-11-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ghazi

The Pistons under Carlisle if I recall were only good for 1 year... and even then they were only a 50 win team. They lost 4-0 to the nets in the playoffs, I dunno if getting swept ever means you were outcoached, maybe your team just wasn't good enough... plus they weren't beating the Duncan/Robinson frontline in the Finals, anyway... the ring ensued after the acquisition of Rasheed, which was when larry brown was head coach.

As for the Pacers, they did fall short that one year they won 61 games to a great defensive Piston team in the playoffs... but they were banged up... and the year after, the brawl at the palace kinda sealed their fate in the season.

In any case, I do believe Carlisle is a definite upgrade from Avery.

Carlistle Piston teams is not the team not won it all. They basically added Rasheed Wallace for nothing. Prince was a big time find in the 2003 playoffs, but inexperienced when playing the defending Eastern Champs in the Nets. I think Carlisle had more to do with instituting an attitude with the starting 4, then strategy. It was basically a bunch of reclamation parts, in Billups, Rip, and Ben Wallace, untapped talents in Okur and Prince. He got the team operating as a unit. Adding Rasheed, Prince's experience basically pushed them to the next level. In Indy, Carlisle never got a shot there, Indy was the favorite his 2nd seaosn, but the malice in the Palace took care of that and he never got close....hey 3rd time is the charm. Now he's taking over someone else's (avery)talented mess.

craggmac · 08-10-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rakesh.s

struggle for the 8th seed, josh howard hoopla and trade talk all year long, and rick carlisle (who has failed everywhere he has been....couldn't win the ring in Detroit, couldn't get it done in Indiana)......i'll follow the mavs online...it's not worth my time to watch them struggle.

It is also not worth your time to post in this forrum. Thank you, goodbye.

SMC0007 · 08-11-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rakesh.s

struggle for the 8th seed, josh howard hoopla and trade talk all year long, and rick carlisle (who has failed everywhere he has been....couldn't win the ring in Detroit, couldn't get it done in Indiana)......i'll follow the mavs online...it's not worth my time to watch them struggle.

Right, because what you do is just that important, you don't have time to be a real fan and endure the heartache like other MF's. I guess you'll start watching when there is a guaranteed championship coming to BigD.

ghazi · 08-10-2008, 03:44 PM

I am optimistic in this season. We added some size with Diop, some youth and athleticism with Green, and some coaching with Carlisle.

I expect bigger things out of Howard and Kidd this year, I expect Dirk to be Dirk, I expect Terry to fulfill his role like always. I expect Kidd to yield some more offense out of offensively inept players like Diop and Damp.

I expect (hope

) Green will utilize some of his talent and be a serviceable role player.

I also expect (hope

) for a championship.

GO MAVS

We also have to keep in mind we were only 6 games out of the 1st seed last year. When you say we only won 1 playoff game, it seems like we're a long way off.... but over the course of 82 games, the best Western team was only 6 games better than us. Yes, The Lakers will have Bynum and the Lakers acquired Artest, but if it ain't easy, it ain't worth a damn baby.

alby · 08-10-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ghazi

Yes, The Lakers will have Bynum and the Rockets acquired Artest, but if it ain't easy, it ain't worth a damn baby.

Fixed. Don't ever scare me like that again.

ghazi · 08-10-2008, 05:37 PM

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Fixed. Don't ever scare me like that again.

oops lol, sorry

fluid.forty.one · 08-10-2008, 04:58 PM

BOO NONBELIEVERS

Tokey41 · 08-10-2008, 10:22 PM

50 wins? Really? Time to wake up.

The only thing i'm looking forward to more than watching Dirk do his thing next season is the inevitable high risk deal that we'll be making when we are NO WHERE near our expectations around mid seasons. Hopefully this time we can screw the other team (like we would have with a Smith/Howard swap).

twosauce · 08-10-2008, 11:36 PM

ide rather make the 8th seed and win the championship, than win 60 games and llose in the first round. but i dont see either happening. this team sucks. average and old players. we should have kept harris. and the shitty thing is, is that if we end up in the lottery next year, that pick will go to new jersey

ghazi · 08-11-2008, 12:00 AM

lol, you say this team is full of "average" players, yet you say we should've kept Harris.

Tokey41 · 08-11-2008, 12:50 AM

I'd rather be young and average (but full of potential) than old and barely making the playoffs... hell even if we made it to the finals and lose i'd STILL want the young potential because if you aren't the champions your just part of the 29 runner ups... nobody cares about the best loser, only the winner.

It's been that way since day one after the trade, the point was to win immediately. If we're not looking like contenders i'm not sure how anyone can defend this trade anymore except out of sheer stubborness. Our front office made a mistake, it happens... despite being 'professionals' they aren't perfect.

MavsX · 08-11-2008, 06:15 AM

what was the point of this thread

Rick41 · 08-11-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsX

what was the point of this thread

to make me sad.

xavier · 08-11-2008, 07:26 PM

Does anyone know when Dirk's contract is up? I'm wondering if we fail again this year, Dirk would want a trade to a contender during his prime. ???

dude1394 · 08-11-2008, 08:35 PM

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Does anyone know when Dirk's contract is up? I'm wondering if we fail again this year, Dirk would want a trade to a contender during his prime. ???

I don't think he's built that way to be honest. This is his team and he's going to go down swinging with it. Only if the mavs cut him would he go I expect.

He might decide europe is more fun in the future sometime, but I don't think he'll be looking to jump ship.

SeattleMavsFan · 08-12-2008, 11:38 AM

why don't you people that complain about the mavs just go away? it's obvious some of you are just bandwagon mavs fans. go watch another team if it's "so hard to watch the mavs now". sure, I'm frustrated with how some things are going. But the Mavs are my team. I will support them and watch every game I can no matter how they do. For god sakes, even if they "suck" this year, I am betting they are a 50+ win team. Do I have much hope that they will win it all this year? Not really but that doesn't mean I'm not going to enjoy watching every game of theirs that I can. Remember when the Mavs truly sucked in the 90s? How about that. I watched them then too when everybody around me refused to watch them because they lost. What kind of fans are you people. Fan stands for fanatic and it's obvious that some people here are not that.

Flacolaco · 08-12-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SeattleMavsFan

why don't you people that complain about the mavs just go away? it's obvious some of you are just bandwagon mavs fans. go watch another team if it's "so hard to watch the mavs now". sure, I'm frustrated with how some things are going. But the Mavs are my team. I will support them and watch every game I can no matter how they do. For god sakes, even if they "suck" this year, I am betting they are a 50+ win team. Do I have much hope that they will win it all this year? Not really but that doesn't mean I'm not going to enjoy watching every game of theirs that I can. Remember when the Mavs truly sucked in the 90s? How about that. I watched them then too when everybody around me refused to watch them because they lost. What kind of fans are you people. Fan stands for fanatic and it's obvious that some people here are not that.

Band wagon fans likely aren't posting on an internet message board on an August afternoon in the smack middle of the looong off-season.

For some people (like me) their passion for a team manifests itself sometimes in the realization of how bad the team possibly COULD be next year. They could have valid points and valid concerns.

Every subject of debate and discussion needs dissenting points of view. There wouldn't be much point in having a message board otherwise. Life isn't one big circle jerk and neither is this board.

Some of these people that claim they won't be watching next season are lying to themselves anyway. They care enough to be expressing their opinion about it to a bunch of strangers. They'll be watching.

Underdog · 08-12-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Flacolaco

Band wagon fans likely aren't posting on an internet message board on an August afternoon in the smack middle of the looong off-season.

For some people (like me) their passion for a team manifests itself sometimes in the realization of how bad the team possibly COULD be next year. They could have valid points and valid concerns.

Every subject of debate and discussion needs dissenting points of view. There wouldn't be much point in having a message board otherwise. Life isn't one big circle jerk and neither is this board.

Some of these people that claim they won't be watching next season are lying to themselves anyway. They care enough to be expressing their opinion about it to a bunch of strangers. They'll be watching.

I think you underestimate "desperate loneliness" and "need for acceptance"...

Personally, I don't watch the Mavs - I'm just posting here to garner enough +rep to eventually trade in for a yacht (you can do that with rep, can't you?)

SMC0007 · 08-12-2008, 11:49 AM

Im FaNaTiC!!!!!

I am a self-proclaimed realistic fanatic. I will watch the MAvs no matter what as well. It's like having a retarded kid, your not gonna stop loving it because of the way it is right? ;/ But now that don't mean I can't complain either.

Flacolaco · 08-12-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Im FaNaTiC!!!!!

I am a self-proclaimed realistic fanatic. I will watch the MAvs no matter what as well. It's like having a retarded kid, your not gonna stop loving it because of the way it is right? ;/ But now that don't mean I can't complain either.

There you have it folks. The Mavericks are like your retarded child. SMC said so.