Mavs Salary Thread - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

The Ghost of Championship · 07-13-2012, 04:26 PM

This is getting hard to follow so I thought we can put known salaries in here. I'll start with the newest Maverick and update the OP as others are added in.

Elton Brand: $2.1mm (1 year)
Dirk Nowitzki: $20.9mm
Vince Schticky ShamWow: $3.09
Shawn Marion: $8.4
Brendon Haywood: Cuban's pocketbook.
Darren Collison: $2.32
Chris Kaman: $8,000,000 (thanks jthig)
Jae Crowder: Doesn't count against cap.
Rodrigue Beaubois: $2.22mm
Dominique Jones: $1.28mm
Jared Cunningham: $963,600
Brandan Wright: $992,680
Tadija Dragicevic: Don't know why I'm even listing him but he's on the official site roster. $0.00.
Bernard James: Doesn't count against cap.
Dahntay Jones $2,900,000 (jthig)

jthig32 · 07-13-2012, 04:39 PM

Dirk $20,907,128
Marion $8,396,364
Carter $3,090,000
Roddy $2,227,333
Dom Jones $1,276,560
Wright $992,680
Cunningham(hold) $993,600
Kaman (not offical yet) $8,000,000
Dahntay Jones $2,900,000
Collison $2,319,344
Brand $2,100,000
Empty Roster Hold $473,604

Total: $53,676,613

These aren't official, and might not be correct to the penny, but it's close enough.

The Ghost of Championship · 07-13-2012, 04:50 PM

Ahh, forgot Dahntay. Thanks jthig.

I've got $53.1 (plus cap holds) and am updating the 2nd rounders to not count against the cap. Brilliant move by management BTW.

jthig32 · 07-13-2012, 04:54 PM

Wright's salary is guaranteed now.

Underdog · 07-13-2012, 04:58 PM

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Wright's salary is guaranteed now.

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The Ghost of Championship · 07-13-2012, 05:22 PM

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Wright's salary is guaranteed now.

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I forgot the July 10th deadline. Great call.

He15man · 07-13-2012, 06:36 PM

Why doesn't Jae Crowder count against the cap, is it because he is a 2nd rounder?

I'm not familiar with all these rules like you guys are.

aexchange · 07-13-2012, 06:51 PM

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Why doesn't Jae Crowder count against the cap, is it because he is a 2nd rounder?

I'm not familiar with all these rules like you guys are.

Yes, no cap hold on 2nd round picks

Cerberus · 07-13-2012, 08:06 PM

Can we still use the Mid-level exception (5.3m) and the mini mid level (2.5m) ??

rabbitproof · 07-13-2012, 08:58 PM

No. Only the BAE which is different than the mini MLE right? Mini is 3 something.

The Ghost of Championship · 07-13-2012, 09:39 PM

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No. Only the BAE which is different than the mini MLE right? Mini is 3 something.

Yes and no and yes and no.

Mini mle is for teams over the salary cap but under certain caps. The bae is a different exception. Neither applies, however, to teams with cap room. You can't have cap room & exceptions by definition, not even tpes apply.

Murphy3 · 07-13-2012, 09:46 PM

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Yes and no and yes and no.

Mini mle is for taxpayers under certain caps. The bae is a different exception. Neither applies, however, to teams with cap room. You can't have cap room & exceptions by definition, not even tpes apply.

Who are you?

The Ghost of Championship · 07-13-2012, 09:48 PM

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Who are you?

Kind of a personal question don't you think?

Underdog · 07-13-2012, 10:48 PM

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Kind of a personal question don't you think?

What color underwear do you have on? Are you a hot chick? Can you see me peeking through your window? Are you going to call the cops? Please don't. I don't want to hurt you, but the voices in my head are telling me to do bad things again. Make the voices stop! Voices stop!! I didn't mean to hurt the pretty girl... Pretty girl... I had to silence the voices... MAKE IT STOP!!!

It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again...

SMC0007 · 07-13-2012, 11:00 PM

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What color underwear do you have on? Are you a hot chick? Can you see me peeking through your window? Are you going to call the cops? Please don't. I don't want to hurt you, but the voices in my head are telling me to do bad things again. Make the voices stop! Voices stop!! I didn't mean to hurt the pretty girl... Pretty girl... I had to silence the voices... MAKE IT STOP!!!

It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again...

MAKE IT STOP!!! I had to silence the voices... Pretty girl... I didn't mean to hurt the pretty girl...Make the voices stop! Voices stop!! I don't want to hurt you, but the voices in my head are telling me to do bad things again. Please don't. Are you going to call the cops? Can you see me peeking through your window? Are you a hot chick? What color underwear do you have on?

Underdog · 07-13-2012, 11:06 PM

Why do I have a boner right now?

SMC0007 · 07-13-2012, 11:13 PM

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Why do I have a boner right now?

Idk but I just adjusted my blinds

The Ghost of Championship · 07-13-2012, 11:15 PM

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Why do I have a boner right now?

We all experience this question on our first discovery. My guess is the Brand acquisition has something to do w it.

SMC0007 · 07-13-2012, 11:17 PM

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Kind of a personal question don't you think?

No seriously tho, We're gonna need your full birth given name and a social.

The Ghost of Championship · 07-13-2012, 11:20 PM

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No seriously tho, We're gonna need your full birth given name and a social.

First thinHog gets excited (for the first time) in my thread and now a 2nd level perv. Is there a community jogging trail that I should let you two finish on?

SMC0007 · 07-13-2012, 11:32 PM

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Kind of a personal question don't you think?

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First thinHog gets excited (for the first time) in my thread and now a 2nd level perv. Is there a community jogging trail that I should let you two finish on?

1) Idk who-wat Thin Hog is but I will be looking to urban dictionary shortly.

2) I take offense to being called a 2nd level perv. I have strong to quite strong if not Top class perv skills.

3) The trail is there, but you need these for safe travels:

Underdog · 07-14-2012, 12:07 AM

The Ghost of Championship · 07-14-2012, 01:45 AM

You two need to step it up if you're going on a jacking spree together. Seriously. Googling awkward **** isnt cutting it.

Ninkobei · 07-14-2012, 09:31 AM

What the hell did I step into here? Dallas should get the mini-mle if they keep spending money, I think. So it's completely reasonable for them to use it eventually.

That said, I'd expect them to use remaining money on a project/young'un since their lineup (somehow) seems pretty decent atm from a veteran stand-point.

The Ghost of Championship · 07-14-2012, 12:28 PM

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What the hell did I step into here? Dallas should get the mini-mle if they keep spending money, I think. So it's completely reasonable for them to use it eventually.

That said, I'd expect them to use remaining money on a project/young'un since their lineup (somehow) seems pretty decent atm from a veteran stand-point.

Teams cannot spend up to the cap & then use exceptions. Cap room is all we have left. We didn't even get a TPE from the Odom deal.

jthig32 · 07-14-2012, 12:45 PM

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Teams cannot spend up to the cap & then use exceptions. Cap room is all we have left. We didn't even get a TPE from the Odom deal.

We have the room exception.

roadrunner · 07-14-2012, 04:50 PM

I dont understand the point of the 2.5 mil room exception. I did some research on it and a team has to have cap room to use it then what is the point in using it versus just using your leftover available cap space?

One question I considered that would make it beneficial would be if the room exception will allow you to go over the cap without being 'considered' over the cap. For example, if the Mavs win the Scola bid for 3 mil and that leaves them appr. 1.9 mil under the cap. Can the Mavs then use the room exception for the entire 2.5 mil and still be considered 'under the cap'. If this is allowed, then I can see that particular advantage in using it.

grndmstr_c · 07-14-2012, 04:56 PM

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I dont understand the point of the 2.5 mil room exception. I did some research on it and a team has to have cap room to use it then what is the point in using it versus just using your leftover available cap space?

One question I considered that would make it beneficial would be if the room exception will allow you to go over the cap without being 'considered' over the cap. For example, if the Mavs win the Scola bid for 3 mil and that leaves them appr. 1.9 mil under the cap. Can the Mavs then use the room exception for the entire 2.5 mil and still be considered 'under the cap'. If this is allowed, then I can see that particular advantage in using it.

If a team is 1.9 under the cap, and then signs a player for 2.5, they'd be over the cap. That exception is for use AFTER a team has used up their cap space (or at least when they have less than $2.5M in cap space remaining, which would be the case in the scenario you outlined).

roadrunner · 07-14-2012, 05:14 PM

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If a team is 1.9 under the cap, and then signs a player for 2.5, they'd be over the cap. That exception is for use AFTER a team has used up their cap space (or at least when they have less than $2.5M in cap space remaining, which would be the case in the scenario you outlined).

Thanks GC, now it makes alot more sense to me.

The Ghost of Championship · 07-21-2012, 02:08 PM

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If a team is 1.9 under the cap, and then signs a player for 2.5, they'd be over the cap. That exception is for use AFTER a team has used up their cap space (or at least when they have less than $2.5M in cap space remaining, which would be the case in the scenario you outlined).

Is this room exception new to the CBA or something? I've never heard of it and the last CBA didn't allow both exceptions and cap space at the same time, at least not that I'm aware.

jamaljasonandjimmy · 07-21-2012, 04:38 PM

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What color underwear do you have on? Are you a hot chick? Can you see me peeking through your window? Are you going to call the cops? Please don't. I don't want to hurt you, but the voices in my head are telling me to do bad things again. Make the voices stop! Voices stop!! I didn't mean to hurt the pretty girl... Pretty girl... I had to silence the voices... MAKE IT STOP!!!

It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again...

ghost of a champion has to be a chick!