Bagley or Ayton

[sefant77]

Ayton

Bagley has a much bigger bust potential

[BigDog63]

Originally Posted by sefant77

Ayton

Bagley has a much bigger bust potential

But we aren't getting Ayton, so....well, I guess we could if we got really lucky, but I'm not sure this is a discussion on luck.

FWIW...Ayton has a fair bust potential too. Bigs in the NBA have a similar record of success as top QB picks in the NFL. There are a lot more failures than successes. One of the determining criteria is athleticism, and Bagley has that. Given that, if we DID luck into that number 1 pick, I think the Mavs should think seriously about trading it, and getting several high picks. ie, would you rather have Ayton, or say, Bagley and 2 other high picks, or a good player and another high pick? I'd take the latter. Bagley could be as good, or better than Ayton, and you do well in the draft mainly through volume, not tanking. 3 players are highly likely to do better than 1 unproven player.

[MavzMan]

Originally Posted by BigDog63

3 players are highly likely to do better than 1 unproven player.

That may work in a video game, but not the NBA. The NBA is first and absolutely foremost a super star league. Stars get calls. Stars get league respect. Stars foul out really good players but do not foul out. If you do not have a super star, you have nothing. Period. If you think Player X is a superstar, then you get him. You do not trade down to take a chance on 3 possible really good players.

[Bryan_Wilson]

I can see trading down from 1-3 or 4 depending on how the players are evaluated. Much like Boston did to pass on Fultz and still getting Tatum. Would just depend on what the scouting dept has on those top 5 players.

[Scoobay]

Originally Posted by MavzMan

That may work in a video game, but not the NBA. The NBA is first and absolutely foremost a super star league. Stars get calls. Stars get league respect. Stars foul out really good players but do not foul out. If you do not have a super star, you have nothing. Period. If you think Player X is a superstar, then you get him. You do not trade down to take a chance on 3 possible really good players.

Agree in principle but i think that's the rub... what if Mavs scouting doesn't think Ayton is a superstar and like Bagley or JJJ's potential as a superstar just as much or better? If you get the number one pick over a team like Phoenix that desperately wants Ayton maybe you work a trade down, still get the guy you want, and pick up an extra asset. hopefully we're in a position we could make that choice and then it'll just be how well did our scouting department do their homework.

It's unlikely sure but i think the idea is to try to maximize things first by drafting the player that's best for the team but if you can work out a way to get an extra pick then that'd be great.