Summer Movies Thread

[Big Boy Laroux]

I see what you're saying, but i think Collateral Damage IS something that should be addressed in these movies (makes them more realistic than the comics, which i think is a positive) and I thought AoU and CW did it quite well (and again, previously addressed in some capacity in other marvel movies), where BvS just shoehorned it in as an afterthought because of the backlash against MoS (where there was NO concern AT ALL).

That's what made the central issue at hand so believable. Two people on an internet message board are debating the importance of human lives, don't you think it should mean something to those that are trying to save them?

Personally, I'm Team Cap. Gotta break a few eggs if you want to make an omelette. But if one of my family members were killed in an event involving the Avengers? You better believe my mind would change.

Not only was there collateral damage in Sokovia, Stark was THE reason it happened. He created Ultron. So it's 100000% believable that he should care about collateral damage. That was actually something that bothered me about AoU - there was no accountability for Stark. he kind of felt a little guilty at the end. And that came to light more in this movie. His guilt got the best of him so he was quick to agree with the Accords.

The spoiler you mention would not have been enough to motivate the other Avengers, though. just Cap and Iron Man.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

The spoiler you mention would not have been enough to motivate the other Avengers, though. just Cap and Iron Man.

Which is why I said this would have made a better Winter Soldier 2.0 than Avengers 2.5 -- there was literally zero reason to make this a "Civil War" movie except to shoehorn in a ton of characters... These Marvel movies are starting to become as overstuffed and convoluted as the X-Men franchise.

Hell, you could have not only ditched the entire collateral damage/Civil War thing, but Tony Stark and The Avengers could've been eliminated from the story altogether.... Just continue the Winter Soldier thread, bringing Black Panther's revenge story into the fold, and maybe spend a little more time trying to understand the personality and motivation of your bad guy.... Seriously, Cap/Falcon/Natasha racing against Black Panther to find Bucky while Zemo throws shade could have been a taut thriller in the same vein as TWS... Feels like a missed opportunity in favor of setting up future Marvel movies (again).