Mavs register interest in Kings' Martin

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by sefant77

Because Noci is kind of a lame version of Marion or an old Najera on crack, we dont really NEED him. A role player his whole carerer.

Brand is a 20/10/2 career in a slump but the type of player we need. Thats why i take him. With the Kings we wont dump Carroll, with the Sixers we might be able.

First of all, there isn't a chance in hell that the Mavs take on Brand and Iggy's contracts. It's just not happening. So it's pretty pointless to debate.

Beyond that, Brand is not "in a slump". He's no longer very good. And he's an undersized PF that can't play any defense. He's like a more expensive version of Drew Gooden that scores a little better. There's no way he plays more than 20 minutes a night for this team, and he's making $51 million over the next three seasons.

You'd be insane to trade anything of any value to Philly for Elton Brand. Again...yuck.

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by jthig32

First of all, there isn't a chance in hell that the Mavs take on Brand and Iggy's contracts. It's just not happening. So it's pretty pointless to debate.

Beyond that, Brand is not "in a slump". He's no longer very good. And he's an undersized PF that can't play any defense. He's like a more expensive version of Drew Gooden that scores a little better. There's no way he plays more than 20 minutes a night for this team, and he's making $51 million over the next three seasons.

You'd be insane to trade anything of any value to Philly for Elton Brand. Again...yuck.

I know that trade isnt likely at all, but i still like to debate over it. And i gonna watch Brand the next years very closely.

About Martin: He doesnt play defense at all. And he is an injury prone. Thats why im a little bit worried about this one. But of course i do Josh-Martin.but pairing Martin with Terry for some time on the court gonna be ugly, specially in the playoffs. Defense wins championships.

Thats why i take Iggy 1:1 over Martin. Iggy has durability, is a package on both end of the court (Iggys defense >> Martins better offense) and you can pair Terry with him.

And Brand isnt done and he showed the last weeks he is still WAY better than Drew Gooden. You doesnt collect 2 blocks over your career playing no or Drew Gooden defense. And like i wrote, thats the trade you can ship out Carrolls 11 mio, so its 40/3 for Brand actually. I take that 29mio he makes more than a kind of useless Nocioni.

Yes i take Martin+Noci for Josh and crap.

[dalmations202]

Originally Posted by jthig32

First of all, there isn't a chance in hell that the Mavs take on Brand and Iggy's contracts. It's just not happening. So it's pretty pointless to debate.

Beyond that, Brand is not "in a slump". He's no longer very good. And he's an undersized PF that can't play any defense. He's like a more expensive version of Drew Gooden that scores a little better. There's no way he plays more than 20 minutes a night for this team, and he's making $51 million over the next three seasons.

You'd be insane to trade anything of any value to Philly for Elton Brand. Again...yuck.

Brand can't play defense ? ? Historically he has been a very good defender, and has a 7'5.5" wingspan which has made up for his 6'9" frame. He is known as a player with the strength of Damp. He is in no way undersized to be a PF. He is a player that plays much bigger than he actually is. He is known as a shotblocker because of his strange 9'2" standing reach.
Yes we have been spoiled having a 7' at PF, but Dirk is taller, not smaller than most PF and many centers.
I am not saying that the injuries haven't limited Brand, but he really is on pace to be coming back to form this year -- and he seems to be. I am uncertain if he will ever regain the quick explosive jumping he was blessed with before the injuries.
IMO, He would easily play 30+ minutes as the C/backup PF on this team.

In fact, if they made a deal w/o Damp having to be included I suspect that Dirk/Brand/Damp would be the PF/C rotation for 95% of the time.

As far as contracts go -- that is Marks money.

Would Brand be a flop -- maybe. Would Brand be the inside force that Dirk needs -- maybe. Would Iggy be the SG that this team needs -- maybe.
Do you have enough touches for Dirk, Brand, Iggy, Terry, Marion -- when Kidd is going to have the ball as much as possible????

Lots of questions. I just don't think Brand is done like you seem to. I just think his injury is taking 2 years to get back.