07-09-2014, 11:17 PM
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The Preacha
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Really? I figured Deng or Ariza would be the best we could do this summer (and that was before the Tyson Chandler trade)... But if we somehow landed Parsons or Stephenson, I'd definitely grade this offseason an A+.
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Agree about CP/Lance + Tyson being a GREAT off season.
But Deng/Ariza just don't do much for me and I don't see them getting us near the top 4/5 in the West this year.
I'm not sure that Lance/CP do either, but they are YOUNG! And this team needs "young".
I'd like to see this off season be for more than the desperate idea of maximizing Dirk's window. Unless the plan is to stink once Dirk retires. (Which isn't a terrible plan considering this team's inability to draft well.)
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Last edited by sike; 07-09-2014 at 11:18 PM.
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07-09-2014, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sike
Agree about CP/Lance + Tyson being a GREAT off season.
But Deng/Ariza just don't do much for me and I don't see them getting us near the top 4/5 in the West this year.
I'm not sure that Lance/CP do either, but they are YOUNG! And this team needs "young".
I'd like to see this off season be for more than the desperate idea of maximizing Dirk's window. Unless the plan is to stink once Dirk retires. (Which isn't a terrible plan.)
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I think you're underrating how close we were to 4/5 last year. A healthy Tyson, a good year from any of the top SF's on the market and a few other roster tweaks (good backup C, good backup PF) and I think we're a fringe contender.
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07-09-2014, 11:31 PM
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The Preacha
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Originally Posted by jthig32
I think you're underrating how close we were to 4/5 last year. A healthy Tyson, a good year from any of the top SF's on the market and a few other roster tweaks (good backup C, good backup PF) and I think we're a fringe contender.
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I did consider that. SA, LAC, OKC....all better than Mavs.
What does HOU, GSW and POR do this season? Not sure, but I could easily see 1 or 2 of them as better than Dallas.
Thoughts?
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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07-10-2014, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by sike
I did consider that. SA, LAC, OKC....all better than Mavs.
What does HOU, GSW and POR do this season? Not sure, but I could easily see 1 or 2 of them as better than Dallas.
Thoughts?
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POR is not in the discussion, imo. Based on how they played the second half of last season, and the fact that their offseason acquisition was Chris freaking Kaman, I fully expect them to be scrapping for a playoff spot.
Houston, obviously so much is still up in the air, but unless they swing Bosh and Parsons I think we're better than them next year (and even if they do swing those two, they will have, literally, zero depth and I think their coach sucks).
GSW, who the hell knows. Rookie coach that's never done anything before.
I just think the Mavs can be significantly better than last year even if they "settle" for Ariza/Deng.
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07-10-2014, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
I just think the Mavs can be significantly better than last year even if they "settle" for Ariza/Deng.
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That's my line of thinking... Regardless of how we fill out the rest of our roster, compare these starting lineups:
Calderon
Ellis
Marion
Dirk
Dalembert
vs.
Harris
Ellis
Deng or Ariza
Dirk
Chandler
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07-10-2014, 12:31 AM
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The Preacha
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Originally Posted by Underdog
That's my line of thinking... Regardless of how we fill out the rest of our roster, compare these starting lineups:
Calderon
Ellis
Marion
Dirk
Dalembert
vs.
Harris
Ellis
Deng or Ariza
Dirk
Chandler
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Much improved defensively. It will be interesting to see what the loss of Calderon does to spacing/ball control. But 2014 will see a better Mavs squad if Health holds.
Not sure I see a high seed though. The West is just that stupid.
I think that team's ceiling is the 4th seed. Assuming OKC, LAC, SA have solid health.
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ok, we've talked about the problem of evil, and the extent of the atonement's application, but my real question to you is, "Could Jesus dunk?"
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07-10-2014, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by sike
Much improved defensively. It will be interesting to see what the loss of Calderon does to spacing/ball control. But 2014 will see a better Mavs squad if Health holds.
Not sure I see a high seed though. The West is just that stupid.
I think that team's ceiling is the 4th seed. Assuming OKC, LAC, SA have solid health.
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Agreed. We arent getting the top tier seeds (1-3). Think we're fighting for 4/5/6 at worst.
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