Texas Longhorns - Road to the National Championship Thread! - Page 16 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Male30Dan · 01-05-2006, 12:33 AM

BOTTOM LINE...

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE TEXAS LONGHORNS FOR WINNING THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL OVER THE "UNBEATABLE TROY" TROJANS... I guess 'ol Vince Young pulled out the Trojan Horse eh???

dude1394 · 01-05-2006, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

94 yards is impressive but he looked average running the ball. The one he broke was when White wore the defense down. He may be the most overrated back in the last ten years. Peterson, and maybe white, will be a better pro.

Yea I thought White was more effective for sure.

alby · 01-05-2006, 12:35 AM

SERIOUSLY HE DID THE HEISMAN POSE?

Male30Dan · 01-05-2006, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Yea I thought White was more effective for sure.

Careful guys... I am as excited as any of you but Bush is for real!!!

Murphy3 · 01-05-2006, 12:35 AM

Bush looked great, but UT was more than prepared to slow him down....but not White and the precision passing of Leinhart.

dude1394 · 01-05-2006, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bookit

Did Vince Young's heartbeat ever get above 60 in this game?

Did you see when Vince ran in for the game winner. He just ran into the crowd...Didn't jump up and down, didn't holler...Just walked back with the ball. Shocking...

dude1394 · 01-05-2006, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Male23Dan

Careful guys... I am as excited as any of you but Bush is for real!!!

No more negativity... I'm not dissing Bush, but he didn't seem like the best back for USC tonight.

Male30Dan · 01-05-2006, 12:38 AM

Please everyone tune in to ESPN radio tomorrow from 9-12 CST... Oh I can't wait Mr. Cowherd... I just can't wait!!!

mary · 01-05-2006, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Did you see when Vince ran in for the game winner. He just ran into the crowd...Didn't jump up and down, didn't holler...Just walked back with the ball. Shocking...

It was a little weird. There wasn't much in the way of endzone celebration. Even after the game VY just waived to crowd all by himself.

Murphy3 · 01-05-2006, 12:38 AM

How dominant was UT's line? At no point in the game was pressure a major factor. Twice USC got pressure from a blitz, but that's it.

dude1394 · 01-05-2006, 12:39 AM

SCOREBOARD LEINART...SCOREBOARD..

Male30Dan · 01-05-2006, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

No more negativity... I'm not dissing Bush, but he didn't seem like the best back for USC tonight.

One "average", (and average is being nice to your argument), game does not a bad RB make!!!

Murphy3 · 01-05-2006, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mary

It was a little weird. There wasn't much in the way of endzone celebration. Even after the game VY just waived to crowd all by himself.

I was a little worried coming into the game about some of VY's comments... I didn't know whether or not he'd be mentally ready for the game...but damn, that was the best performance by one player in no telling how many years.

Male30Dan · 01-05-2006, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Murphy3

How dominant was UT's line? At no point in the game was pressure a major factor. Twice USC got pressure from a blitz, but that's it.

The same could be said for USC's line... I know they gave up sacks, but that is more on Leinart not being a scrambler vs. Young being a HELLUVA scrambler... There never was great pressure on either QB...

I guess that makes VY look even better, eh?

dude1394 · 01-05-2006, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Male23Dan

One "average", (and average is being nice to your argument), game does not a bad RB make!!!

Again I'm not dissing bush, heck I haven't even followed the knucklehead, but tonight their best back wasn't him. That's all...

dude1394 · 01-05-2006, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Male23Dan

The same could be said for USC's line... I know they gave up sacks, but that is more on Leinart not being a scrambler vs. Young being a HELLUVA scrambler... There never was great pressure on either QB...

I guess that makes VY look even better, eh?

Actually have to disagree, vince had all day, leinart was throwing 3steps all night.

alby · 01-05-2006, 12:42 AM

VINCE

30-40

THIS GUY CAN THROW THE BALL

Murphy3 · 01-05-2006, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Male23Dan

The same could be said for USC's line... I know they gave up sacks, but that is more on Leinart not being a scrambler vs. Young being a HELLUVA scrambler... There never was great pressure on either QB...

I guess that makes VY look even better, eh?

Texas was actually able to get some pressure without bringing a blitz. I don't know that USC did that the entire game.

dude1394 · 01-05-2006, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mary

It was a little weird. There wasn't much in the way of endzone celebration. Even after the game VY just waived to crowd all by himself.

And some photographer got a great photo. Vince standing by himself while confetti was all around him.

Male30Dan · 01-05-2006, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Actually have to disagree, vince had all day, leinart was throwing 3steps all night.

That is TOTALLY not true... I have the entire game TIVO'd and would be happy to go over any individual plays... They both had quite a bit of time over the course of the game... VY was pressured SEVERAL times but ran around the pressure... The same type of pressure was around Leinart but he simply could not escape it several times.

Male30Dan · 01-05-2006, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Murphy3

Texas was actually able to get some pressure without bringing a blitz. I don't know that USC did that the entire game.

I never based this on how many people rushed... I am just saying both were pressured about the same amount!

Male30Dan · 01-05-2006, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by alby

VINCE

30-40

THIS GUY CAN THROW THE BALL

I completely agree, but 20 of those passes were for less than 8 yards before the WR ran with the ball.

Male30Dan · 01-05-2006, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Again I'm not dissing bush, heck I haven't even followed the knucklehead, but tonight their best back wasn't him. That's all...

Fair enough...

Murphy3 · 01-05-2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Actually have to disagree, vince had all day, leinart was throwing 3steps all night.

They went to the three step drop because UT was getting alot of pressure in the first half.... You're exactly right dude.

dude1394 · 01-05-2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Male23Dan

That is TOTALLY not true... I have the entire game TIVO'd and would be happy to go over any individual plays... They both had quite a bit of time over the course of the game... VY was pressured SEVERAL times but ran around the pressure... The same type of pressure was around Leinart but he simply could not escape it several times.

Well do it. I don't agree with you.. .Leinart was throwing 3-5 yard passes and vince was throwing 10-15 yarders.

Murphy3 · 01-05-2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Male23Dan

I never based this on how many people rushed... I am just saying both were pressured about the same amount!

No they weren't.

dude1394 · 01-05-2006, 12:48 AM

What a huge difference between the class of Reggie Bush versus the Classless of Leinart.

ocelot_ark · 01-05-2006, 12:49 AM

I'm gonna stay out of this thread from now on and just you guys enjoy it. Like I said earlier...congrats.

Murphy3 · 01-05-2006, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Male23Dan

That is TOTALLY not true... I have the entire game TIVO'd and would be happy to go over any individual plays... They both had quite a bit of time over the course of the game... VY was pressured SEVERAL times but ran around the pressure... The same type of pressure was around Leinart but he simply could not escape it several times.

Ok...let's make this simple.
On most of the plays that you're probably calling 'pressure', they were plays in which ANY QB would simply step up in the pocket and still have plenty of time to throw the ball. But, with VY, once he steps up and sees an opening, he takes it. With other QB's, they step up and then throw the pass.

VY saw very little pressure. Leinart saw more in the first half than VY did the entire game. VY was rushed maybe 2-3 times the entire game.

Male30Dan · 01-05-2006, 12:49 AM

Whatever guys... Whatever... Texas rushed less guys and had the same amount of pressure that USC did with their different blitz packages... Both QBs were pressured the same amount but Leinart being pressured and making plays is far from Young being pressured and making plays... Young is so much better at moving with the ball and throwing on the run or running when the protection is too good...

Male30Dan · 01-05-2006, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Murphy3

No they weren't.

Edited because I should be a better man this year than last!

DubOverdose · 01-05-2006, 12:51 AM

Vince Young is unbelievable.

Male30Dan · 01-05-2006, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DubOverdose

Vince Young is unbelievable.

Oh yeah!

dude1394 · 01-05-2006, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Male23Dan

Yes they were... Oh wait, is the might ******* murph always right based on simply his comments... Spare me ****!

Well Male23...The only two folks in this thread don't agree with you. It IS possible that you are wrong.

Now as far as murph being a ****. I can't comment on that.

Also just heard Vince backing away a little bit from coming back...

u2sarajevo · 01-05-2006, 12:53 AM

I have a question... after tonights incredible performance any of you guys think if Young decides to go Pro (please God, let him stay a bit longer) he would be picked by the Texans?

Male30Dan · 01-05-2006, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Well Male23...The only two folks in this thread don't agree with you. It IS possible that you are wrong.

Now as far as murph being a ****. I can't comment on that.

Also just heard Vince backing away a little bit from coming back...

Again, if you want to count the times that VY had to roll due to pressure vs. the times that Leinart had to roll, we can do that... Tomorrow of course because I am not going to do so tonight, but I am HAPPY to do this... I think you guys underestimate how much VY makes rolling look like he meant to rush when it truly is that the line is collapsing and he has no options passing...

HE JUST SAID THAT HE DID THAT TOO ON A COUPLE OF PLAYS THAT BROKE DOWN...

Ugh...

Male30Dan · 01-05-2006, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by u2sarajevo

I have a question... after tonights incredible performance any of you guys think if Young decides to go Pro (please God, let him stay a bit longer) he would be picked by the Texans?

I was so worried that IF Texas won, VY might leave... But from what he said after the game, I think he will stay!

Murphy3 · 01-05-2006, 12:58 AM

U2, I don't know what he did to his stock tonight...Obviously, it continued to rise, but how much? The latest reports that I had heard from a couple of scouts was that he was going to be an early pick in the first round..How early? I don't know. I don't know how much he helped his stock. He showed tonight more than ever just how rare/special of an athlete that he is.

In all honesty, there's alot that I like about him more than Mike Vick. I think VY's the better runner, but doesn't have the arm strength. I can't imagine that Vick's calmer under pressure. Surely Vick can't be more of a leader. Plus, he's smaller and appears to be a little injury prone. Obviously Vick has the better throwing motion..is a better thrower at this point as well..

Murphy3 · 01-05-2006, 12:59 AM

After reviewing the game, Male, you're still wrong.

Male30Dan · 01-05-2006, 01:00 AM

467 yards were accounted for by VY of Texas' 556 total yards!!! AMAZING!