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Murphy3 · 12-10-2006, 03:23 PM

...was just talking about movies that he directed.

If you want to talk about great movies that he's been in...well, it's a pretty damn long list.

Five-ofan · 12-10-2006, 03:39 PM

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...was just talking about movies that he directed.

If you want to talk about great movies that he's been in...well, it's a pretty damn long list.

Ok thats fine because randall wallace directed we were soldiers i think i was just mentioning a movie that i associate with him that is pretty darn awesome.

mary · 12-10-2006, 03:25 PM

He was good in "Chicken Run"

Murphy3 · 12-10-2006, 03:39 PM

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He was good in "Chicken Run"

You only liked "Chicken Run" because you got to see cock.

Murphy3 · 12-10-2006, 03:47 PM

Gibson has been in several really good movies:
Gallipoli
Mad Max movies
Most of the Lethal Weapons
The Bounty
Mrs Soffel wasn't bad
The River
Tequilla Sunrise
Man without a face
Braveheart
Maverick
Ransom
Payback
Chicken Run
What Women Want (i know...so sue me)
Signs
We were Soldiers
Apocalypto
The Passion....

rmacomic · 12-10-2006, 05:10 PM

As a convert, I can see where you're coming from.
Just didn't work for me, I personaly belive the more you question God the closer you are to knowing him. Gee, all this discusion from trying to dig my way out from a bad Passion joke. Also I liked the Mad Max movies.

Murphy3 · 12-10-2006, 05:25 PM

It's alright...I'm still waiting for someone to laugh at my joke concerning Mary's post.

Five-ofan · 12-10-2006, 05:45 PM

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It's alright...I'm still waiting for someone to laugh at my joke concerning Mary's post.

I laughed when i read it. I just didnt know what to say so i left it alone.

rmacomic · 12-10-2006, 05:49 PM

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I just didnt know what to say so i left it alone.

I may start following that line of thought.

Murphy3 · 12-10-2006, 06:55 PM

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I laughed when i read it. I just didnt know what to say so i left it alone.

I need positive feedback when I say something funny otherwise I'm just going to have to revert to my former sense of humor.... If everyone wants me to be 'dark' again, then keep it up.

dude1394 · 12-10-2006, 07:15 PM

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I need positive feedback when I say something funny otherwise I'm just going to have to revert to my former sense of humor.... If everyone wants me to be 'dark' again, then keep it up.

eeekk...HA HA HA HA... Funniest damn thing I've every heard.

Dirkadirkastan · 12-10-2006, 07:25 PM

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I need positive feedback when I say something funny otherwise I'm just going to have to revert to my former sense of humor.... If everyone wants me to be 'dark' again, then keep it up.

STACK, get your f'ing ass out of the game...

mary · 12-10-2006, 08:05 PM

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It's alright...I'm still waiting for someone to laugh at my joke concerning Mary's post.

I give it a B-minus.

Windmill360 · 12-10-2006, 07:01 PM

hahahah @ dark ^^^^

Usually Lurkin · 12-11-2006, 08:48 AM

Apocalypto was ok. I was expecting more clash of civilizations and less personal story. There was a lot of "Rambo in another culture" schtick, but it was done pretty well. It's probably cooler if you don't read the subtitles, and just watch the story happen.

Speaking of Rambo in another culture, saw a preview for a Pierce Brosnan, Liam Neeson western, "Seraphim Falls" that looks very cool.

And a sword and sandal flick about Sparta, "300" that looks cool, too. Does anyone know Frank Miller? It said it was based on Frank Miller graphic novels.

Five-ofan · 12-11-2006, 10:59 AM

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Apocalypto was ok. I was expecting more clash of civilizations and less personal story. There was a lot of "Rambo in another culture" schtick, but it was done pretty well. It's probably cooler if you don't read the subtitles, and just watch the story happen.

Speaking of Rambo in another culture, saw a preview for a Pierce Brosnan, Liam Neeson western, "Seraphim Falls" that looks very cool.

And a sword and sandal flick about Sparta, "300" that looks cool, too. Does anyone know Frank Miller? It said it was based on Frank Miller graphic novels.

frank miller rights alot of graphic novels. He wrote the novels that league of extraordinary gentleman and several other movies I believe including sin city were based on. (i thought sin city was vastly overrated though)

speaking of rambo, they are making rambo 4, pearl of the cobra, that is coming out in 08. Hey you knew with a new rocky there was probably gonna be a new Rambo right?

Murphy3 · 12-11-2006, 11:12 AM

300 looks amazing

dude1394 · 12-13-2006, 08:54 AM

300 does look amazing.

Saw Apocalypto last night. Pretty much give it no more than a "B". The chase scene in the jungle was pretty good but in general I'm not a big fan of one long continuous chase scene. I would have liked to have had more breaks in it for more stategery.

The scene at the Mayan temple was pretty horrific. I would imagine the slaughter at the top was on the mark, but I'm not sure about the decadence below it.

Good but not great, braveheart is head and shoulders above it.

There was a lot of blood but nowhere near the "orgy of violence" that some reviewers have noted, certainly no more than a typical slasher film at all.

Murphy3 · 12-13-2006, 09:18 AM

No, it wasn't nearly as violent as it was made out to be. And a 'B' is about right... Which in a down year for movies, it means it's among the better movies of the year.

dude1394 · 12-13-2006, 11:39 AM

This is an interesting take on what mel was attempting to do. I think this is one of the reasons it seemed "off" to me.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/B...ptic_stupidity

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According to Mel Gibson, his new movie, "Apocalypto," is a metaphor for the death of American civilization. "The precursors to a civilization that's going under are the same, time and time again," Gibson explained at a film festival in Texas. "What's human sacrifice if not sending guys off to Iraq for no reason?"

Gibson's comparison between Mayan and American civilization is deeply offensive. To elucidate just how offensive the comparison is, I must review the film's portrayal of Mayan society. (Warning: There are spoilers. If you are intent on seeing this movie, read no further.)

In this promotional photo released by Icon Distribution, Inc., director Mel Gibson appears on the set of his epic drama "Apocalypto." (AP Photo/Icon Distribution, Andrew Cooper/SMPS)

"Apocalypto" portrays two societies within Mayan civilization. The first is a hunter-gatherer sort of Rousseau-ian society, wherein noble savages tell colorful stories, cherish their pregnant wives and play practical jokes involving eating raw tapir testicles. The second is the decadent Mayan city, where slave laborers covered in powder cough up blood as they pound rock; where throngs cheer wildly as power-mad priests engage in ritual human sacrifice, pulling still-beating hearts from chest cavities, beheading victims and tossing those heads down towering flights of stairs to a waiting crowd, which then sticks the heads on pikes; where the headless bodies are dumped in Holocaust-like mass graves, to rot in the sun.

The Mayan city society invades the Rousseau-ian hunter-gatherer society, brutally and graphically raping and murdering its way through village after village. Citizens of the hunter-gatherer society are kidnapped and used for ritual sacrifice, or for sport killing.

Gibson's point is this: Mayan civilization in decline had corrupted itself through brutality and barbarity. It sacrificed its own citizens on the altar of fear. The values that made Mayan civilization worth preserving -- the values embodied by the Rousseau-ian society -- were destroyed so that the fears of the population could be assuaged. In doing so, Mayan society made itself ripe for conquer by the Europeans.

Gibson likens Mayan civilization to American civilization. "We're all afraid," Gibson told Entertainment Weekly. "That's something I've been finding out more recently -- how racked by fear we are as a society." We are discarding our values, Gibson implies. We are engaging in Mayan barbarities in Iraq, sending our own citizens off to die on the altar of fear.

"Apocalypto" opens with a quotation from historian Will Durant: "A great civilization is not conquered from without until it destroys itself from within." Durant is correct -- but the film's exposition of Durant is utterly wrong. If American (and Western) civilization falls, it will not be because our fears drove us to "Mayan barbarities," but because, like Gibson, we failed to distinguish good from evil.

Not all civilizations are created equal: Some deserve to fall because they are deeply corrupt from the outset. Mayan civilization, with its human sacrifice and primitivism, was never a beacon of liberty. The Rousseau-ian values Gibson sees were not what distinguished Mayan civilization. The strength of Mayan civilization was based solely on its power -- it was doomed to fail from the moment it encountered a society more powerful militaristically and economically than itself.

Western civilization has values worth protecting -- liberty and equality of opportunity -- and those values give it strength. Those values make us stronger than our enemies, unlike the Mayans. Equating all civilizations, as Gibson does, is what undermines Western values. There is a world of difference between using violence out of superstition and using violence to both ensure domestic security and free others from the oppression of a death cult that ritually beheads its citizens or dumps them in mass graves. It is moral barbarism of the highest order to equate the two, as Gibson does.

Critics have rightly focused on the stunning violence of Gibson's "Apocalypto." The movie is certainly one of the most violent ever filmed -- Gibson's camera lingers lovingly over each wound. But it is the violence Gibson does to morality that should worry us. It is that violence that contributes to the internal destruction of Western civilization. If Western civilization is doomed to failure, it will not be despite Mel Gibson's best efforts, it will be because of them.

Five-ofan · 12-13-2006, 11:46 AM

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No, it wasn't nearly as violent as it was made out to be. And a 'B' is about right... Which in a down year for movies, it means it's among the better movies of the year.

eragon had better be better than a B or they really effed up a darn good book.

dude1394 · 01-09-2007, 07:48 PM

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eragon had better be better than a B or they really effed up a darn good book.

So has anyone seen this eragon movie? RottenTomatoes says it sucks.

Five-ofan · 01-09-2007, 08:12 PM

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So has anyone seen this eragon movie? RottenTomatoes says it sucks.

i meant to but then i talked to a friend who had seen it and had a similar opinion of the book that i do and she said it sucked. She also said the COMPLETELY altered the story which just pisses me off. I cant wait for the last book to come out(no clue when it is supposed to, heck it might even already be out) but im no longer interested in seeing the movie or at least not until it comes out on dvd.

Dirkgreatness · 12-21-2006, 04:22 PM

I just saw this Movie yesterday and it was great. It kept me on the edge of my seat for like almost the whole movie, so go watch it!!!! now!

Just211 · 12-22-2006, 04:32 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP2Fp7vJD4E

Drbio · 01-09-2007, 08:20 PM

Eragon wasn't bad but it was different than the book.

dude1394 · 01-09-2007, 08:32 PM

Hmmm...home schooled author.

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Christopher Paolini was home schooled in Montana, and graduated from high school at the age of fifteen. He and his parents felt he should wait before attending college, so meanwhile he began writing Eragon. His parents' publishing company, Paolini International, LLC, published his book when he was nineteen. The book was then discovered by Alfred A. Knopf and was republished under Knopf in 2002. With Knopf as the publisher, Eragon became a success and a New York Times Bestseller. After release of the film for the movie, a new cover was released for the book. The new cover shows the actors standing together and Saphira flying in the background. It was released at $6.00-$10.00 per book.

Five-ofan · 01-09-2007, 08:50 PM

one thing about eragon, i am a big fantasy nerd so i like stuff like that but it is a blatant rip off of lord of the rings in large part. Literally about half of the book you can look at and say yep that comes from lotr.