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LonghornDub · 07-09-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

Louis (San Antonio)

Even with Marion, Mavs can't touch the Spurs, right?
John Hollinger**(3:15 PM)

Um, you watched the playoffs this year, right? San Antonio obviously will be better adding Manu, Jefferson and McDyess to that crew, but I don't think it's a given that they beat out Dallas.

Louis sounds a little nervous. Sounds like he wants some reassurance. Poor Louis.

walter · 07-09-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Louis sounds a little nervous. Sounds like he wants some reassurance. Poor Louis.

Exactly. Spurs fans are the most insecure fans in the nba. They take any chance they can get to belittle the mavs because they are deep down extremely threatened by them. Kinda sad really.

mavspwnage · 07-09-2009, 02:56 PM

pkdumas · 07-09-2009, 03:02 PM

josh howard (dallas)
i can't guard 2s. I'm old(er). I put my foot in my mouth daily. And now they got the Matrix? When am I getting traded, and for whom?
John Hollinger**(3:26 PM)
Mostly it's going to be Kidd guarding 2s -- they're just starting games with Howard there because they like Terry coming off the bench. Dallas will finish games most nights with Dirk at 5, Marion at 4, Howard at 3, Terry and Kidd in the backcourt.

josh (FL)
how much better did dallas get with the players they have picked up? and are they in real nba contenders?
John Hollinger**(3:46 PM)
The unknown variable here is age. Dallas has eight guys who played really well last year, but seven of them will be in their 30s by the time the playoffs start. If they hold up the Mavs are serious contenders, but obviously there's a risk that this could all go downhill with alarming speed.

Scott (Santa Barbara, CA)
Is Howard really going to play the 2? How about Kaman or Camby to Detroit, RIP to Dallas, and Howard to the Clips? This all works cap wise.
John Hollinger**(3:54 PM)
We'll see a lot of trade speculation with Howard. But remember, most of his minutes will still come at the 3-- he's just beginning games at the 2 so they can bring Terry off the bench.

41N · 07-09-2009, 03:05 PM

i thought marion was our main target in this trade but i was sooo wrong.

mac222b · 07-09-2009, 03:06 PM

Does Jawai mean no Hollins? And yes i'm serious.

EricaLubarsky · 07-09-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhylan

Honestly, at this point in his career, what is McDyess going to do for them that Kurt Thomas couldn't do? Nothing.

Thomas---McDyess
6'9"---------6'9"
235lb-------245lb
36yo--------34yo

48 minute stats
Kurt Thomas 11.7points, 13.8rebounds, 2.3assists, 2.0blocks, 50.3%FG, 75.0%FT
Antonio McD 15.3points, 15.6rebounds, 2.1assists, 1.3blocks, 51.0%FG, 69.8%FT

When you consider that McDyess was playing for a team that needed scoring and had poor rebounding the numbers are near identical all around.

MascisMan · 07-09-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

Does Jawai mean no Hollins? And yes i'm serious.

Unless they shove Jawai immediately into the D-League (which is possible) I would think so

MascisMan · 07-09-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Thomas---McDyess
6'9"---------6'9"
235lb-------245lb
36yo--------34yo

48 minute stats
Kurt Thomas 11.7points, 13.8rebounds, 2.3assists, 2.0blocks, 50.3%FG, 75.0%FT
Antonio McD 15.3points, 15.6rebounds, 2.1assists, 1.3blocks, 51.0%FG, 69.8%FT

When you consider that McDyess was playing for a team that needed scoring and had poor rebounding the numbers are near identical all around.

Maybe the difference is that McDyess has more experience playing center which leaves Duncan at PF?

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-09-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick41

I seriously want to slap the living sh!t out of the spurs fan base right now.

Why? We already slapped them in 5 games last playoffs. I'm not, nor will I ever be, scared of the Spurts.

craggmac · 07-09-2009, 03:19 PM

Isn't Jawai a PF?

slowmo · 07-09-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkgreatness

Some Nathan Jawai Highlights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpJszNGHjNA

Dude has a 7'5" wingspan! Only thing bad i've heard is that he has a heart condition.

At least he can do the alley opp and has a sweet 10 jumper!

sike · 07-09-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MascisMan

Not trying to be an a-hole but aren't you contradicting yourself?

Haha...I see what you mean...but he was saying that no one was still in their prime bc that was reached at 25. (Seemingly implying that by the age of 30 a player is no longer prime)

Sorry if that wasn't clear enough.

Kidd Karma · 07-09-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

Does Jawai mean no Hollins? And yes i'm serious.

Pretty sure it is, Jawai will be the 3rd center, maybe 4th if Singleton, Dirk gets minutes there. Roster is pretty crowded, right now we're at 14 minus Buckner. We trade Buckner, that would make it 15. Before Nivins. If we go in, as is, I'm pretty sure, Hollins is done in Dallas.

LSMF · 07-09-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mary

I'm kinda glad I don't have to root for Tim Thomas.

Rep to you, Thomas is one of my most hated players. F him, one of my favorite moments was back in a regular season game when the fool was talking his sh*t again and just when he wasn't expecting Marquis daniels posterized the crap outta him. Its here if you wanna see it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvIRpk0SGkQ

And I also loved when he got up in Dirks face and Dirk responded by destroying him and the Phoenix suns. And about Marion, I also hated him because he was such a thorn in our side, always getting crucial rebounds against us, hitting crucial shots, jamming on us. But the Hate I had for Marion was different from the hate I have for Tim Thomas. With Thomas I just loathe him to death, with Marion I hated him (When he was a sun) but I also respected him big time. Which is why I am very happy that he's on our side.

Welcome to Dallas Shawn!!
PS- Major props to Donnie and Cubes, those guys do have brains after all.

Kidd Karma · 07-09-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by craggmac

Isn't Jawai a PF?

At 6-10 280, he will play center. We're pretty set at the PF spot with Dirk, Marion, Humphries and maybe Singleton. Draft Express had him compared to Dampier.

mavs777 · 07-09-2009, 03:35 PM

I am serious now, you guys think Jawaii means no hollins, singleton, and bass? I really don't know much about the kidd to be honest, you guys think he will be in the rotation next year?

EricaLubarsky · 07-09-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LSMF

Rep to you, Thomas is one of my most hated players. F him, one of my favorite moments was back in a regular season game when the fool was talking his sh*t again and just when he wasn't expecting Marquis daniels posterized the crap outta him. Its here if you wanna see it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvIRpk0SGkQ

And I also loved when he got up in Dirks face and Dirk responded by destroying him and the Phoenix suns. And about Marion, I also hated him because he was such a thorn in our side, always getting crucial rebounds against us, hitting crucial shots, jamming on us. But the Hate I had for Marion was different from the hate I have for Tim Thomas. With Thomas I just loathe him to death, with Marion I hated him (When he was a sun) but I also respected him big time. Which is why I am very happy that he's on our side.

Welcome to Dallas Shawn!!
PS- Major props to Donnie and Cubes, those guys do have brains after all.

Marion I hated because he killed us-- stifling some of our offense, and sneaking in for cherry picks, etc. All that hatred is now turned to love now that he;s here.

Thomas was a spare that thought he was hot poop, and so when he was taunting the Mavs with his kisses and other things, it was even worse when the Rockets spares were throwing up gang signs. Dude needed to grow up.

Rhylan · 07-09-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pkdumas

josh (FL)
how much better did dallas get with the players they have picked up? and are they in real nba contenders?
John Hollinger**(3:46 PM)
The unknown variable here is age. Dallas has eight guys who played really well last year, but seven of them will be in their 30s by the time the playoffs start. If they hold up the Mavs are serious contenders, but obviously there's a risk that this could all go downhill with alarming speed.

Oh lord. Just made me realize I'm gonna be 30 by the time the playoffs start. Sumbitch.

I'll spend the season talking about how young the team is, I guess.

EricaLubarsky · 07-09-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

I am serious now, you guys think Jawaii means no hollins, singleton, and bass? I really don't know much about the kidd to be honest, you guys think he will be in the rotation next year?

Jawaii basically has the same chance of making our roster as Nivins. If he shows something in summer league, he may find his way onto the team, but otherwise I dont think a buyout of his 730k, 1yr deal would make anyone in the FO even blink twice.

u2sarajevo · 07-09-2009, 03:44 PM

Only 110(ish) days until opening tip!

Rhylan · 07-09-2009, 03:46 PM

Does anyone know if Jawai's deal is guaranteed for this year? Second round pick, obviously eats a lot of hamburgers in his free time... I'm thinking no.

fluid.forty.one · 07-09-2009, 03:48 PM

If Gortat turns out to be a success, that is one SICK starting lineup..

Flacolaco · 07-09-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by u2sarajevo

Only 110(ish) days until opening tip!

How many gays is that?

GuerillaBlack · 07-09-2009, 03:54 PM

Can't say I'm not a little jealous. I can know put the Mavs as one of the top four teams in the WC. I'd rank it: Lakers, Spurs, Mavs/Denver tied. Great move by you guys.

clutch#41 · 07-09-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

I am serious now, you guys think Jawaii means no hollins, singleton, and bass? I really don't know much about the kidd to be honest, you guys think he will be in the rotation next year?

that jawaii guy will probably go to europe,d league or be released!!

Dirkenstien · 07-09-2009, 04:43 PM

IMO, no way Jawaii should threaten Hollins' spot on this team. I'd much prefer the athleticism and energy from Hollins.

I reeaaallly hope we get Hollins back this season. I like the kid and think he's a great fit with Kidd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ogrJ8LXvlY

Underdog · 07-09-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

Does Jawai mean no Hollins? And yes i'm serious.

It could mean no Damp...

(but only if Cuban has something HUGE in store, although I can't imagine any possibilities...)

Underdog · 07-09-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Marion I hated because he killed us-- stifling some of our offense, and sneaking in for cherry picks, etc. All that hatred is now turned to love now that he;s here.

It's Deion Sanders & Terrell Owens all over again!

dalmations202 · 07-09-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

Can't say I'm not a little jealous. I can know put the Mavs as one of the top four teams in the WC. I'd rank it: Lakers, Spurs, Mavs/Denver tied. Great move by you guys.

I understand the Lakers -- defending champs and all.

Why Spurs over Mavs?

This one looks really close to me.

Parker - Kidd
Ginobili - Howard
RJeff - Marion
TD - Dirk

Aren't the 8 above more or less a wash?

McDyess ? ? Gortat

The way each of these plays looks to me like a huge factor.
If McDyess can guard Dirk well, then hey the Spurs may have something. If not, I don't know how they beat the Mavs. If Gortat can score and keep Parker out of the lane, then the Mavs may have something, if not, I don't know how they beat the Spurs. I'd say the Spurs/Mavs are very close right now and could go either way easily.

Finley < Terry

If it comes down to 6th men though, Terry easily wins. Fin is done.
I guess someone can step up, but I don't see anyone that can guard Dirk again, and I still don't see anyone on Dallas that can stop Parker.

Can Gortat/Damp/Marion defend the paint well enough against Manu, TD and Parker ........ that is the question, IMO.

Dallas also got lots closer to the Lakers as well, and I actually think they match up pretty well. Odom is the question there that keeps Dallas from matching up, so I hope he goes anywhere else.

Dirkenstien · 07-09-2009, 04:48 PM

What's funny is reading some of the comments from Suns fans regarding Marion coming to Dallas. Apparently a lot of them are throwing up in their mouths and getting sick to their stomachs.

CadBane · 07-09-2009, 04:50 PM

Parker-Kidd is not even remotely close to a wash. Parker flat out owned him last year.

EricaLubarsky · 07-09-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkenstien

What's funny is reading some of the comments from Suns fans regarding Marion coming to Dallas. Apparently a lot of them are throwing up in their mouths and getting sick to their stomachs.

I thought being a suns fan was enough to do that alone.

grndmstr_c · 07-09-2009, 04:52 PM

JJB = Parker's bane

SA can suck it.

mavs777 · 07-09-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Parker-Kidd is not even remotely close to a wash. Parker flat out owned him last year.

agreed and at this stage of their careers Dirk is clearly better than Timmy though quite the same margin of Parker over kidd, and obviously at this stage Mavs clearly have the better bench, should be interesting

mavs777 · 07-09-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I thought being a suns fan was enough to do that alone.

Suns fans?

who?

Dirkenstien · 07-09-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I thought being a suns fan was enough to do that alone.

Most of them are pretty irate over the status of their team. Kerr has destroyed that franchise.

mavs777 · 07-09-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkenstien

Most of them are pretty irate over the status of their team. Kerr has destroyed that franchise.

love that guy

Zki41 · 07-09-2009, 05:04 PM

Hollins would deserve a spot over Jawaii. He has athleticism, and I'm sure during this off season he will be bulking up and improving his defensive abilities and trying not to foul. He really stepped up this season for us despite his flaws and really laid his heart out there I think.

I also think Singleton deserves to be the back up PF after his season last year ... but with the acquisition of Humphries I'm not sure what our resources are in that manner.

Either way, Bass is highly coveted on the market and I don't think he will be coming back to Dallas with our log jam at PF and our ability to get a satisfying player (Singleton) at a much lower price.

Kidd Karma · 07-09-2009, 05:04 PM

Hinrich to Portland
Boozer to Chicago
Ty Thomas to Utah

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4317515

Portland getting desperate? Utah same, with rumors of Millsap offer from Portland, Utah looking to shed before committing to Millsap. Ain't it great to have Cuban as an owner, win at all costs. It's just one year, pay the bill and move on.