Who in the league is like Howard? - Page 2 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

seal614 · 01-22-2005, 04:53 PM

Howard is longer than Iggy. I also think an AK comparison is a bit off the deep end.

I see howard as a more 'built' Tayshaun. I do think Howard will surpass Prince in the next 2-3 though.

- Brian

EricaLubarsky · 01-22-2005, 05:02 PM

numbers are comparable but Josh did his in 23.7mpg, Andre has 32.1mpg. Break it down to stats per 48 so they can be compared despite the differences in playing time and Josh Howard is far superior.

Josh Howard 17.4pp48, 11.1 rp48, 2.93ap48, 2.93sp48, 1.63bp48, 2.0to48

Andre Iguodala 13.3pp48, 8.9rp48, 4.13ap48, 2.4spg48, 1.14bp48, 2.8to48

more points, more rebounds, more steals, more blocks, fewer TOs....although fewer assists

compare Iguodala of this year to Josh Howard of this year and the comparison becomes even more obvious

Poindexter Einstein · 01-22-2005, 06:06 PM

For those who dont see the comparison between Howard's progress and play, and AK-47....

The way they play, their defensive prowess, long arms and fluidity, their jack of all trades ability, are the items that make me see them as similar players.

AK is better at this point, of course, but my point is that they are on the same track. Look at comparable stats, year 2 of their career ...

AK ...... 12.0 ppg ....5.3 rpg ....1.7 apg ....1.48 spg ....2.19 bpg ...1.7 topg ...FG% 49 ...3s 32.5%

JH .... 12.3 ppg ....7.0 rpg ....1.5 apg ....1.34 spg ....0.6 bpg ...1.6 topg ...FG% 46 ...3s 29.5

From the stats, Josh is a much better rebounder, and AK blocks more shots. Otherwise, about the same player. And the way they impact a game is very similar as well, with their length and athleticism.

Windmill360 · 01-22-2005, 06:13 PM

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Poindexter Einstein · 01-22-2005, 06:16 PM

Howard and Tayshaun Prince? I think Howard is way ahead in the yr 2 comparison - -

JH .... 12.3 ppg ....7.0 rpg ....1.5 apg ....1.34 spg ....0.6 bpg ...1.6 topg ...FG% 46 ...3s 29.5

TP .... 10.3 ppg ....4.8 rpg ....2.3 apg ....0.77 spg ....0.84 bpg ...1.45 topg ...FG% 46.7 ...3s 36.3

JLEEHASMUCHGAME · 01-22-2005, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by: EricaLubarsky
numbers are comparable but Josh did his in 23.7mpg, Andre has 32.1mpg. Break it down to stats per 48 so they can be compared despite the differences in playing time and Josh Howard is far superior.

Josh Howard 17.4pp48, 11.1 rp48, 2.93ap48, 2.93sp48, 1.63bp48, 2.0to48

Andre Iguodala 13.3pp48, 8.9rp48, 4.13ap48, 2.4spg48, 1.14bp48, 2.8to48

more points, more rebounds, more steals, more blocks, fewer TOs....although fewer assists

compare Iguodala of this year to Josh Howard of this year and the comparison becomes even more obvious

good post EL... I didn't look at minutes when I was looking Andre up. Still, I think as far as this thread goes, Iggy is definitely a "poor man's" Josh Howard if I've ever seen one. They both are young, long-armed, 6'6" dudes...

The Miles · 01-22-2005, 11:13 PM

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I liken Howard to Andre Iguodala, although I think Andre has a slight edge as far as athleticism.

Awesome comparison except that Igudoala is a better playmaker whereas Howard is a better rebounder. Iggy is more athletic but it is a good comparison.

Iguodala is just such an amazing talent, Howard too.

seal614 · 01-23-2005, 02:35 AM

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EricaLubarsky · 01-23-2005, 02:38 AM

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samoan-maverick · 01-23-2005, 03:07 AM

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wow that's about as classless as you can get. you made a good point so did she, but you gotta take the fun out of a debate with name calling. i wanna be cool like you so i'll leave my name at the end of every post.

- Bryan, to bad i got the same name as this punk

seal614 · 01-23-2005, 10:52 AM

I stand by it, it doesn't take too much investigative work to see where this all started. Funny how my "sixers homerism" has gotten a wee bit of support in this thread. Maybe I just made a good comparison, who knows.

- Brian

grndmstr_c · 01-23-2005, 12:52 PM

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I stand by it, it doesn't take too much investigative work to see where this all started.

You mean, with you calling EL a edit?

seal614 · 01-23-2005, 06:21 PM

bingo, good work.

poohrichardson · 01-23-2005, 08:22 PM

Whenever I see a thread take off and turn into an argument.. I always think to myself.. "Erica must be crunching stats again"....

kg_veteran · 01-23-2005, 10:54 PM

Just in case anyone was wondering, I'm the one who took my edit stick to this thread.

Calling people names WILL NOT be tolerated. Grow up.

seal614 · 01-24-2005, 12:27 AM

KG your moderator homerism is showing. Har har.

- Brian

kg_veteran · 01-24-2005, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by: seal614
KG your moderator homerism is showing. Har har.

- Brian

That happens after a while.

Taking this thread back on topic, I don't think the Iguadola comparison is that bad, but I think we need to let Andre play for a bit longer before we make any definite statements.

Howard has the potential to be a 18-20 ppg, 9-10 rpg, 1.5 spg, 1.0 bpg small forward and an All-NBA defender. There aren't too many of those running around.

rakesh.s · 01-26-2005, 10:11 PM

Only one guy comes to mind for me..

Josh Smith of the hawks..yes, another Josh

I don't even put iguodala in the same category as howard..iguodala is a poor offensive rebounder, which is what makes howard so good for his size.

dirno2000 · 01-27-2005, 12:55 AM

I hope the answer to this question doesn't ultimately turn out to be Robert “ice” Pack. Really the only knock on Josh is that he gets nicked up quite a bit for such a young player.