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12-03-2008, 04:22 AM
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Dirk Doesn't Care Anymore
Anyone else getting the impression that he just doesn't care anymore?
I mean, he's a stand up guy so he's going to go out there and play every night. And I think he genuinely enjoys the game so he goes out there and plays to have fun. I'm not saying he hates being on the court... But the fire he used to have seems missing. There are times when he doesn't always make the effort play right in front of him, or he doesn't seem to push himself as hard as he might have sometimes. Maybe it's not so much that he doesn't care as that he's just given up all hope of ever doing any better than he's already done. He's playing like a guy who has already achieved everything he'll ever be able to achieve and is just out there playing for the fun and pride of it. |
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12-03-2008, 04:38 AM
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I'm getting the impression that he's just not shooting well.
Regarding his "fire", we still see it after 3's at time, and we saw a hustle play against the Kings resulting in a George dunk. I dunno whether or not he cares, if he doesn't than what a quitter! |
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12-03-2008, 05:14 AM
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I think he realizes that the Mavericks' title run is over, and barring an extraordinary set of circumstances, he will not win a championship in Dallas. That must be very hard.
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12-03-2008, 08:32 AM
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Huh? How long ago that he took a long sprint for the whole court to go after a loose ball for the tip to Devean?
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12-03-2008, 09:24 AM
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All I saw was the highlights, but he sure looked like he cared after hitting a big three in the fourth.
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12-03-2008, 09:40 AM
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He did this last year, too.
He'll pick it up 2nd half of the season. I think that after watching the Spurs play dead for a couple of seasons then win champtionships by turning it on the second half of the season, he figures he could too. Of course, the danger is that your owner goes into panic mode. There's also Carlisle's practices. The whole team looked dead for about 40 minutes of the game last night. It wasn't just Dirk. |
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12-03-2008, 09:47 AM
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I disagree whole-heartedly. what I thought happened was he was trying to take it inside and was getting mugged all night. I thought refs were woefully poor last night.
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12-03-2008, 09:53 AM
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I haven't seen anything this season from Dirk that would lead me to think he doesn't care anymore. It's just not his nature.
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12-03-2008, 09:54 AM
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Dirk scored 29 last night. At best, this thread is bad timing; at worst, go f*ck yourself.
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12-03-2008, 09:55 AM
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12-03-2008, 09:57 AM
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When Dirk no longer cares, he will no longer be playing basketball.
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12-03-2008, 10:02 AM
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12-03-2008, 10:31 AM
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I don't get some of the posters here. Last year all anyone could gripe about was how Dirk couldn't get any help on the double and tripple teams, now, with this motion offense, he is finding open guys who are hitting thier shots, he all the sudden doesn't care. I saw two or three plays last night where Dirk got the ball low drew a tripple team and kicked out to Jet for the wide open shot. Dirk is playing smarter than I have ever seen him do. He has already had nights where he has won games for us, and now we have a team that looks like it won't abandon him in the playoffs, he doesn't care?
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12-03-2008, 10:39 AM
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Some folks can't get over points.
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12-03-2008, 10:58 AM
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Which aspect of a 29-10 night at the NBA level comes across as "not caring anymore"??? Seriously - our fan base has some video game expectations about this team all of a sudden! 
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12-03-2008, 11:10 AM
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.500 or better ball before the all-star break is acceptable. Why worry about them now -- I mean, new coaches, new players, new offense, and <20 games in -- and we are worried about whether Dirk cares or not right now.
I actually hope right now he isn't worried or caring. I hope he plays, learns, wins enough to keep them within striking distance -- and focuses on the second half of the season. Let the young guys burn a while. I'll be worried if I don't see the fire -- after the all-star break. Right now, I think I see too much fire.
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12-03-2008, 11:13 AM
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What's interesting is that early in the season when we were LOSING, we would start a game well and then get out butts handed to us in the 4th quarter.
Now that we are winning, we seem to start a bit slow and then kick up a notch or two in the 4th. If you ask me, not that anybody is...I would rather look asleep at the wheel to start a game and then wake up to finish strong winning the game in the 4th. I can't believe it...but perhaps Avery to Carlisle was the Change we needed!!! I can believe again, and I used to be a huge Avery supporter. |
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12-03-2008, 11:18 AM
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Threads like this make me want to vomit.. I suppose it's one of the drawbacks of the forum becoming more and more popular.
Dirk is shooting poorly right now. He'll get out of his funk. He's trying to take the ball to the rim as well. He's just struggling a bit with his shot, that's all. He's rebounding the ball well as of late. He's taking the ball to the rim more. Why anyone would think that he just doesn't care anymore is beyond me. |
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12-03-2008, 12:00 PM
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Dirk was getting pushed around last night. He had the ball poked away numerous times and was flopping instead of going to get the ball. See the jump ball in the first half, where he was more interested in selling the foul than getting the loose ball. He didn't try to get to the hole much last night, especially in the first half.
He played like a puss last night from points 0 through 15, then woke up a bit at the end - but still wasn't hitting jumpers. Murph is at least right about that. Dirk has got to get stronger with the ball, for as much as he handles it with his back to the defender. |
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12-03-2008, 12:06 PM
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Dirk was fine last night. A few lapses in the toughness dept. but dude he was attacking the rim! Led us in scoring and hit 2 huge threes down the stretch.
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12-03-2008, 12:10 PM
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Dirk cares more than we'll ever know.
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12-03-2008, 12:10 PM
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Dirk is in a bit of a funk right now, but it's forcing the rest of the team to step up and they've answered the call with a 7-1 streak, despite Josh Howard missing the last 6 games and Kidd having a couple of vanilla performances... Rick Carlisle is starting to achieve something that Avery never could - he's winning games with the entire team, not just with Dirk...
Imagine what we'll look like when the UberMan finally snaps out of it! 
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12-03-2008, 12:12 PM
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Barea does not care anymore.
Seriously, anyone else get the impression that a post's title has to be true?
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12-03-2008, 12:43 PM
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You sure are starting some winners for threads lately.
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12-03-2008, 12:50 PM
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12-03-2008, 02:38 PM
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i disagree as well. just watch, he will carry this team like he always does throughout the season!
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12-03-2008, 02:40 PM
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 "I still go through it in my head," Nowitzki said. "One of my last nights in Germany [last month], I was trying to go to sleep, but I couldn't. I was thinking about the free throw I missed [late in Game 3], about different situations that happened in that series. I'll never forget it. It's going to stay in my mind until we win it all." |
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12-03-2008, 02:51 PM
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Dirk is the one guy that the Mavericks can always count on to care about winning. But he's not stupid. He knows the window has closed here, and he'll go out and play with determination to win because he's a professional... but i'm sure he's struggling with the notion that if he's going to win a title it will have to be somewhere other than Dallas. We should all feel lucky that he's the type of guy that wouldn't demand a trade.
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12-03-2008, 03:06 PM
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question, do you think Dirk will retire a Maverick or do you think he will go somewhere else and try to win? Just wondering because I know is 2010 he is a Free Agent and his name was in a article about the Knicks and who they might be able to choose from. So if mavericks don't win this year or next year do you think he would leave the mavericks? just want to hear what some people think because I think he will retire a maverick just because he seems like the type of player that really cares for a team he plays for
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12-03-2008, 03:17 PM
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He's going back to Germany after the Mavs.
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"I still go through it in my head," Nowitzki said. "One of my last nights in Germany [last month], I was trying to go to sleep, but I couldn't. I was thinking about the free throw I missed [late in Game 3], about different situations that happened in that series. I'll never forget it. It's going to stay in my mind until we win it all." |
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12-03-2008, 03:29 PM
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Dirk sucks. Trade him for Pavel.
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Got this from db.com -- didn't know where else to post it...
Said Terry: "I think my mentality and focus has changed. Dirk told me going into the season: 'There's one thing about you that bugs me, Jet. It's consistency. Some nights you come out looking great like an All-Star, and other nights I don't know what's going on.' So I took that to heart." It shows. |
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12-03-2008, 04:22 PM
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And I could see this thread (although I'd still disagree with it) being posted after a night where Dirk takes 8 shots, even if he hits a lot of them.
Dirk shot 27 times. A lot of them were drives to the hoop. A lot of them were jumpers that are still a better decision than 95% of NBA shots, simply because Dirk is taking them. Dirk takes 27 shots and grabs 10 rebounds. He screams at the crowd. He screams at the clips. He celebrates. "Dirk doesn't care anymore" my ass. |
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