Mavs/Lakers Postgame Thread...suck it fakers - Page 3 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

sike · 02-25-2010, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

This. Everyone, media wise, is all about "how Butler helps the Mavs". Yeah he does, but IMO the Haywood addition is far far more important.

I agree in principle. But I think both Butler and Haywood will be HUGE come playoff time.

The flexibility that Butler gives Carlisle defensively is pretty great with Kidd and Marion.

BGMaverick9 · 02-25-2010, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Even more perplexing is just how much his defense has fallen off. A few years ago he was bar none the best perimeter defender in the league. These days he's not good enough to make the all-defensive 3rd team, if there was such a thing.

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Originally Posted by sike

its very strange. he is really taking one for the team.

I'm actually surprised that they didn't try to stick him on Dirk for a bit. It didn't really seem like Dirk had to break out of his comfort zone to get his tonight.

Oh, by the way...
31 points on 19 shots, heck even 30 with 20 shots: Dirk and Jet were efficient as hell tonight.

FINtastic · 02-25-2010, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nowhereman

Anyone else relieved that Crazy Pills and Abe Lincoln didn't go berserk on each other?

It was amusing to see such effort expended on defense between two players who can't score.

DavidDaMonkey · 02-25-2010, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nowhereman

Anyone else relieved that Crazy Pills and Abe Lincoln didn't go berserk on each other?

Nope. I was actually rooting for it

mavs777 · 02-25-2010, 12:30 AM

I would like to point out that we have a very favorable next ten games, I want to see us make a push and win at least 8 of these

@ ATL
VS NO
@ CHA
VS MIN
VS Kings
@ CHI
@ MIN
VS NJ
VS NY
VS CHI

sike · 02-25-2010, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

31 points on 19 shots, heck even 30 with 20 shots: Dirk and Jet were efficient as hell tonight.

when Hot, both of those guys can get hotter than all but a handful of guys in the NBA.

Dim499 · 02-25-2010, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sike

Haywood with only 3 fouls. How crazy is that? And against the Lakers no less.

Thats the thing. There is no way Damp would have played this thing as smart as Haywood did. Remember Bynum started like 4 for 4 early? Damp would have picked up 2 quick fouls to get out of there. Haywood didn't go all out in the first quarter because it was more important for the team to have him on the floor at all.

BGMaverick9 · 02-25-2010, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

I would like to point out that we have a very favorable next ten games, I want to see us make a push and win at least 8 of these

@ ATL
VS NO
@ CHA
VS MIN
VS Kings
@ CHI
@ MIN
VS NJ
VS NY
VS CHI

Enter: BOOK IT

Windmill360 · 02-25-2010, 12:32 AM

damn i'd love to be at the aac and ask those all those laker fans how my ass tastes.

DavidDaMonkey · 02-25-2010, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

That's a very fair answer.

I don't need to be sold on the fact that they are gonna win the championship right now though. I'm not expecting to see them really hit their stride until the 2nd/3rd week of March when the schedule gets really favorable and they're more in the groove working together. The scary thing is, if we're playing the way we are NOW and we are just starting to work on getting in gear...you'll have to buy that potential hype.

My only fear is that they get too hot early with all this excitement and then they can't keep it up for the playoffs.

It's like a computer. It's always fast and smooth right when you get it (or when you install some new hardware) but then over time it tends to slow down and lose some of its luster.

I'm not saying this will happen, but you never know.

BGMaverick9 · 02-25-2010, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sike

when Hot, both of those guys can get hotter than all but a handful of guys in the NBA.

Wish I could remember the entire list but Bill Simmons was on The Herd this morning and was asked to list the top 5 shooters he would want to hit a game-winner: Dirk was on the list.

sike · 02-25-2010, 12:33 AM

Chuck Cooperstein says this is quickly becoming the best trade in Mavs history...

Windmill360 · 02-25-2010, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sike

Chuck Cooperstein says this is quickly becoming the best trade in Mavs history...

Gasol type even?

BGMaverick9 · 02-25-2010, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidDaMonkey

My only fear is that they get too hot early with all this excitement and then they can't keep it up for the playoffs.

It's like a computer. It's always fast and smooth right when you get it (or when you install some new hardware) but then over time it tends to slow down and lose some of its luster.

I'm not saying this will happen, but you never know.

The fact that it's all still going to be relatively new for at least a week or two (still waiting to get Damp in the fold), that'll keep "the spark" alive. I really don't think that's going to be an issue. You've got guys who got a new lease on NBA life, and guys who are starving for a ring. I feel really good about their chances.

sike · 02-25-2010, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Dim499

Thats the thing. There is no way Damp would have played this thing as smart as Haywood did. Remember Bynum started like 4 for 4 early? Damp would have picked up 2 quick fouls to get out of there. Haywood didn't go all out in the first quarter because it was more important for the team to have him on the floor at all.

Damp is going to be the best back up Center in the league...

but freakin Haywood is what this team needs! And HAS needed for a LONG time.

BGMaverick9 · 02-25-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

Gasol type even?

For this year you got Butler, Haywood, and Stevenson for...

Ross and Singleton, a guy who is done for the year and a guy who isn't even on the team anymore.

yeah, it's looking rather tasty

sike · 02-25-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

Gasol type even?

Talent wise and impact wise it could feasibly turn out to be on par wit it...

JCmasta · 02-25-2010, 12:37 AM

It seems like this team is still somewhat of an afterthought in the national media, most of the stories have "Lakers come up short vs Mavs" or "Kobe can't get it done on a back to back". If the Nuggets beat LA then of course a bigger deal would be made of it all.

Anyway good game i can't wait to see this team with Butler and Damp in there.

sike · 02-25-2010, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

The fact that it's all still going to be relatively new for at least a week or two (still waiting to get Damp in the fold), that'll keep "the spark" alive. I really don't think that's going to be an issue. You've got guys who got a new lease on NBA life, and guys who are starving for a ring. I feel really good about their chances.

This team of Vets is ALL about the post season.

dude1394 · 02-25-2010, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LetsGoMavs

Haywood somehow stayed out of foul trouble till the beginning of the 4th quarter and then had the opportunity to play hard nose defense...that was huge.

All those Wizards fans kept saying that he has low bb IQ...after watching him playing for our franchise, i have to say: " Dear Wizards fans, I don´t think so"

How absolutely GREAT was that. Having a guy who understands that he has to be on the court at the end of games and that getting quick silly fouls hurts the team. GREATNESS!!! I was so impressed. Sure Bynum made it tough on us early but the 4th qtr is WINNING TIME. And that's when you have to be around.

Gosh...I'm gushing...0 fouls until the fourth and then bynum didn't get squat!!!!

All I can say is Let's Go...

clutch#41 · 02-25-2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Depends on what you mean. Do I think the Mavs are gonna win the championship? No. Am I absolutely thrilled with the trade, and the direction the team is headed in? Hell yes.

Your a Straight Bandwagoner Man. 1st you said we cant compete with the lakers or the best in the league. we beat the magic at home and the lakers!! And you still dont wanna give them credit or a chance to go all the way?
your pathetic man seriously. u should jus delete your account and join another site!!
True Mavs fans Only!!!
stevenson was huge
Jet Was on Fire
Amazing win without 2 starters and im saying that bc damp started the only game with haywood as backup. even though i think itll change!!
i guess roddyb only played bc it was his birthday!!
To all my True Mavs Fans Here Good Win Tonight!!

sike · 02-25-2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JCmasta

It seems like this team is still somewhat of an afterthought in the national media

#1 Screw the national media

#2 The Mavs haven't given anyone a reason to be anything but an afterthought.

But THIS Mavs team could be a horse of a different color.

GOMAVS41 · 02-25-2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sike

Chuck Cooperstein says this is quickly becoming the best trade in Mavs history...

It's got to be 2nd best. Nothing beats the epic trade we made back in 1998.

Lor20 · 02-25-2010, 12:40 AM

if anyone would have told me we win 5 straight vs phx, orlando, miami, indiana and the fakeshow in our first 10 days after the trade i woulda called them massive homers and too optistic.
I'm glad we have had the rebounding edge almost every game. Thhat is huge for dallas with the amount of jumpshots we take.
I'm glad i wasnt wrong to pick haywood as the guy i was excited about in the trade - we've missed a second real center ever since diop drifted out of the rotation - and even then we had only two limited centers. now we have two centers playing decent basketball.

clutch#41 · 02-25-2010, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sike

Chuck Cooperstein says this is quickly becoming the best trade in Mavs history...

No doubt it is.. or probably the dirk and nash combo trade was the best in history..but this trade is defiantely second!!

DavidDaMonkey · 02-25-2010, 12:41 AM

My only complaint with tonight is that I think we should've busted out the baby blues

BGMaverick9 · 02-25-2010, 12:41 AM

post 101 =

sike · 02-25-2010, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

How absolutely GREAT was that. Having a guy who understands that he has to be on the court at the end of games and that getting quick silly fouls hurts the team. GREATNESS!!! I was so impressed. Sure Bynum made it tough on us early but the 4th qtr is WINNING TIME. And that's when you have to be around.

Gosh...I'm gushing...0 fouls until the fourth and then bynum didn't get squat!!!!

All I can say is Let's Go...

Folliwell on the post game show dished out some amazing stats about Haywood's ability to always stay out of foul trouble.

Its not the exception its his norm. The guy is smart...and keeps himself out of foul trouble.

bobbyfg7 · 02-25-2010, 12:42 AM

Go Mavs!!!

FINtastic · 02-25-2010, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

Gasol type even?

You do have to take into consideration that they sent another Gasol back in return who has actually turned into a pretty decent player.

So this has the potential to top it, I think.

sike · 02-25-2010, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GOMAVS41

It's got to be 2nd best. Nothing beats the epic trade we made back in 1998.

I don't think he was considering swapping draft picks.

clutch#41 · 02-25-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JCmasta

It seems like this team is still somewhat of an afterthought in the national media, most of the stories have "Lakers come up short vs Mavs" or "Kobe can't get it done on a back to back". If the Nuggets beat LA then of course a bigger deal would be made of it all.

Anyway good game i can't wait to see this team with Butler and Damp in there.

until we win an nba championship, the mavs will always be an afterthought in the media! Especially espn, they seem to hate the mavs!

Windmill360 · 02-25-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sike

Talent wise and impact wise it could feasibly turn out to be on par wit it...

lol that's exactly how i imagined saying it.

Thespiralgoeson · 02-25-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by clutch#41

Your a Straight Bandwagoner Man. 1st you said we cant compete with the lakers or the best in the league. we beat the magic at home and the lakers!! And you still dont wanna give them credit or a chance to go all the way?
your pathetic man seriously. u should jus delete your account and join another site!!
True Mavs fans Only!!!
stevenson was huge

I'm a "straight bandwagoner?" Excuse me, little man, I've been rooting for the Mavs since the days when 20 wins was considered a good season. You think I'm wrong about the Mavs chances, fine. Good for you. But you come in here with all of 77 posts and tell me to delete my account and join another site? Go f*ck yourself.

aexchange · 02-25-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

No joke, I love getting 10+ points from our starting center EVERY game!

screw the points thats a bonus. i love the blocks and the consistent rebounding. the guy is a certified bad ass.

sike · 02-25-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FINtastic

You do have to take into consideration that they sent another Gasol back in return who has actually turned into a pretty decent player.

So this has the potential to top it, I think.

You never know....QRoss could be on the cusp of taking over the league!

ddh33 · 02-25-2010, 12:44 AM

That was really, really impressive.

First of all, I hope everything is alright with Caron Butler.

What a great game though! I think I could have said that even if the Mavs had lost. I'm sure glad I get to say it when they won though.

Jason Kidd is just nuts right now. Everyone who said he couldn't play anymore should really be choking on their crow right now. He's simply one of the most amazing players I have ever seen. His instincts are second to none, and he is making this thing work right now.

Deshawn Stevenson has earned one fan. I was actually sort of excited to get Stevenson as the throw in. I thought this team needed a stronger perimeter athlete who wasn't afraid to get dirty. Stevenson really made Kobe work tonight. I liked the way he competed.

Shawn Marion was really good defensively too. I thought he struggled again on the offensive end, and I just can't figure it out. But he did a great job on Kobe too.

Dirk was great. Don't take his fourth quarter for granted. The Lakers were coming to get that game at the end, and Dirk didn't let it happen. I think he had 13 in the quarter, including some big jumpers. I thought he did a fairly solid job on defense as well.

I don't know what all to say about Brendan Haywood. That guy is like an answer to a prayer. He runs the floor hard - and well. I thought his interior defense was huge, and I was so proud of him knocking down those free throws. Another big game.

Eduardo Najera knows how to play. He's a much better fit for this team than Kris Humphries.

JJ Barea is horrible right now. I can't figure that out either. He was actually really solid last year, and he can't seem to do anything this year. Time to sit him down. I thought it happened tonight, but he came back in the second half over Roddy. That needs to stop soon.

I would love to get Damp and Tim Thomas back soon. This team is thin right now.

Jason Terry was fantastic tonight though. He really exploded tonight, and the Lakers only answer was to foul him and get away with it. Jet hit some big shots tonight though to help keep the team in control. I've said that I think Jet is actually a little underrated by Mavs fans, and I stick by that. He brings some things to this team that no one else really does.

The Mavs have to be thrilled with what they did. Everyone is going to take notice though.

jthig32 · 02-25-2010, 12:45 AM

Man....that.was.awesome.

Let's start, once again, with Brendan effing Haywood. That dude makes my loins tingle. Having his constant potential for offensive contribution makes such a huge difference to the way this team plays offense. Being trusted with more than just the most basic pass makes such a huge difference with Kidd on the court. It's so nice to once again see what this defense does with a healthy defensive center. The idea of playing Haywood and a healthy Dampier 48 minutes in a center rotation makes me absolutely giddy.

I was glad to see Spiral mention Marion a few posts above. I think we're already to the point where we take Marion's defense for granted. I think we've already forgotten how bizarre it is for the elite scoring swingmen in the NBA to have to struggle for every point they get. There's no doubt that Marion's lack of touch around the basket can be maddening, but that dude has a dramatic effect on the game every minute he's on the court. Please do not forget what Marion does to this defense.

Talking about defense seems like a good time to bring up Stevenson. Leave it to the Mavs front office to make all of us lamenting the loss of Ross look stupid. Stevenson is clearly capable of playing defense on the same level as Ross, and he's sturdier and more athletically gifted. His shot is still pretty broke, but the defense and edginess that dude bring is great. I don't know that he's going to have a permanent role in the rotation, but he's a pretty nice backup plan and change of pace defender.

Dirk....oh Dirk how I love you. I squealed like a school girl when you threw in that and-1 with Koby draped on your back. I heart you. And you stepped it up a little on the boards tonight and fought hard in the post. You.are.the.Man.

How great is it when Jet catches his first pass and you can just see that it's going to be a big Jet night. His energy was high, he was moving with a purpose, he was finding shots in rhythm. He was just awesome. When Jet plays like that we're as good as anyone in basketball.

So we've gotten to this point without mentioning Jason Kidd. And that's kind of typical. He's probably been the most consistent player on the team this year (yes even including Dirk) in bringing the same level night in and night out. His offensive aggression has gone to a level not yet seen in this second stint with the Mavs. He's actively looking for his shot rather than only shooting when wide open, and he's pushing the action offensively more than ever. Just a true joy to watch on a nightly basis.

Fun night, seemed like a great atmosphere in the building. Let's enjoy this one boys.

Mavsfan4ever · 02-25-2010, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

I would like to point out that we have a very favorable next ten games, I want to see us make a push and win at least 8 of these

@ ATL
VS NO
@ CHA
VS MIN
VS Kings
@ CHI
@ MIN
VS NJ
VS NY
VS CHI

I think of all these ATL is the one I think will be toughest.

sike · 02-25-2010, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

lol that's exactly how i imagined saying it.

hahaha