2020-2021 Season thread

[MFFL]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

We have more than addressed defense needs but I'm wondering if we comprised some bench scoring in the process.

Burke will replace most of Curry's scoring. Plus don't forget that Maxi is now a bench player again. I think our bench will be even more explosive

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by MFFL

Burke will replace most of Curry's scoring. Plus don't forget that Maxi is now a bench player again. I think our bench will be even more explosive

Yeah, Burke will carry most of the load from the bench but Rick will have many options to keep a balanced team on the court at all times. Richardson was a huge acquisition in that regard and could become one of the most key players on this team outside of Luka and KP.
I'm really hoping he can evolve into that 3rd option that we definitely need and I personally think he will. I've been wanting that trade to happen for a hell of a long time and now I'm ecstatic that we have Richardson on this team.

I also think Terry will exceed expectations in development. Rick will absolutely love this guy and will find a place for him. If Brunson or Burke go down for any length of time, Terry will get his opportunity.
Jesus, I haven't been this happy starting the season as a Mavs fan since they drafted Ro Blackman. Yeah, I'm old

[MFFL]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

Jesus, I haven't been this happy starting the season as a Mavs fan since they drafted Ro Blackman. Yeah, I'm old

Aguirre, Blackman, and Vincent was a helluva haul. That was a great draft for us

I still boo Kiki Vanderweghe if his name gets announced on the TV. My wife thinks I'm insane

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by MFFL

Aguirre, Blackman, and Vincent was a helluva haul. That was a great draft for us

I still boo Kiki Vanderweghe if his name gets announced on the TV. My wife thinks I'm insane

1982 draft was horrible but the 4 years after that the Mavs did great.

1983 - Dale Ellis/Derek Harper
1984 - Sam Perkins
1985 - Detlef Schrempf/Bill Wennington
1986 - Roy Tarpley/Mark Price

Then then it was horrible again for the next 5 years.

1987 - Jim Farmer
1988 - Morlon Wiley (2nd rounder)
1989 - Randy White
1990 - Phil Henderson (2nd rounder)
1991 - Doug Smith

Then good again for 3 years with Jackson/Rooks/Mashburn/Kidd/Dumas
And then bad again for the next 3 years with Parks/Meyer/Walker/Cato.

Seems to be a trend for this team.

[Bryan_Wilson]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

Yeah, Burke will carry most of the load from the bench but Rick will have many options to keep a balanced team on the court at all times. Richardson was a huge acquisition in that regard and could become one of the most key players on this team outside of Luka and KP.
I'm really hoping he can evolve into that 3rd option that we definitely need and I personally think he will. I've been wanting that trade to happen for a hell of a long time and now I'm ecstatic that we have Richardson on this team.

I also think Terry will exceed expectations in development. Rick will absolutely love this guy and will find a place for him. If Brunson or Burke go down for any length of time, Terry will get his opportunity.
Jesus, I haven't been this happy starting the season as a Mavs fan since they drafted Ro Blackman. Yeah, I'm old

I'm right there with you on Richardson. That trade being made without giving up Green or Terry while also adding Bey... I really don't see how that is not an A+ move.

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

I'm right there with you on Richardson. That trade being made without giving up Green or Terry while also adding Bey... I really don't see how that is not an A+ move.

The move for Richardson was amazing. He should fit better here than he did in Philly with better spacing. Easy to forget he was a hot commodity a couple years ago. Donnie is great at buying low or on distressed assets, which Rick then spins into gold.

I honestly think the trade for Richardson and signing of Burke were two of the best offseason transactions for ANY team, homerism aside.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

I'm right there with you on Richardson. That trade being made without giving up Green or Terry while also adding Bey... I really don't see how that is not an A+ move.

Richardson seems to fill several needs for this team. 3-D wing, toughness, secondary ball handler, confidence, athleticism and veteran presence.
I'll be extremely shocked if he isn't a good fit and impact player for this team. I think he should become the 3rd most important player on this team.

I honestly thought we'd have to give up a pick with Curry to get Richardson. In fact I made a trade suggestion on this board a few months ago Curry/#18 for Richardson/#34/#36.
Good thing Donnie is our GM instead of me As far as I'm concerned that was one of Donnie's most brilliant moves.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

I'm right there with you on Richardson. That trade being made without giving up Green or Terry while also adding Bey... I really don't see how that is not an A+ move.

Not only that, but I take Richardson over Covington. And Covington costs you a lot to get to boot.

I'm just happy we were able to sell high on Curry. I would also not choose Curry over Richardson under basically any circumstance outside of desperately needing shooting.

All Jrich needs to do is average 15ppg and play great defense. I hope we keep him long term if it works out.

[NeedlesKane]

I just watched some Dwight Powell highlights. Not gonna lie... forgot how much his game has improved. Still... I just don't see WCS as the last option. If he is... the rest of the league should be concerned.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

We just can't run Powell to death if he isn't performing the way we did with Matthews. That is my biggest concern. Don't want the contract to dictate playing time.

[SMC0007]

The video clips of WCS shooting 3s and running drills has people excited and optimistic. Understandably so because it looks great. But again, and again, DP and DFS are very likely going to have to play themselves out of their current roles. WCS isnt better than DP right now, people start getting a little over hyped from highlights and video. I think its easy to see how WCS should be a better player but he has to prove it.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

The video clips of WCS shooting 3s and running drills has people excited and optimistic. Understandably so because it looks great. But again, and again, DP and DFS are very likely going to have to play themselves out of their current roles. WCS isnt better than DP right now, people start getting a little over hyped from highlights and video. I think its easy to see how WCS should be a better player but he has to prove it.

The first few weeks of the season will be critical for WCSs future as a Mav. It might be the only opportunity he’ll get to prove himself.

Im not as excited about his offense as much as I am for what he can do for us defensively.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

The first few weeks of the season will be critical for WCSs future as a Mav. It might be the only opportunity he’ll get to prove himself.

Im not as excited about his offense as much as I am for what he can do for us defensively.

Yeah I don't want to be a party pooper but he's not going to be some changed guy to where he's shooting 3's and stuff like that. He's more than likely going to be the same player on offense. Now defensively is where he can improve and I hope that's the case. That's how he's going to get playing time on this team is if he can set the tone on that side of the ball.

[FromSloveniaWithLove]

All in all.. I don't care who is playing.. I just want that everybody WCS, DP, JR, etc. have a chance to prove that they can thrive and be excellent in Rick system. And I hope Rick give them a chance to prove themselves.

The only way to be a contender team in the west is.. Well.. There is a lot of ifs:
- Doncic has to be at MVP level through the whole season
- KP must stay healthy and be at his best all of the season
- THJ must be a reliable 3rd guy scorer - which I think he sadly won't be.
- Defense has to be out of the park - especially in the 4th quarter
- They have to be clutch in 4th quarter - they weren't last year

So there is a lot of things that could go wrong.. I'm not being pessimistic.. Mavs got a lot better... But I still think we are a peace or two away from a ring contending team. OR.. Rick has to prove he can be the best and outperforms other coaches... That means he needs to do a lot of things different than last year.. Which I think he won't. I'm not saying he is not good. But I just think his coaching is the same for the last decade. I mean.. If the players are getting better every year, coaches should too right? He has to be more dynamic..

[EricaLubarsky]

Camp starts Tuesday

[VA-Mavs-Fan]

This answers some Qs:


Shams Charania @ShamsCharania · 37 min
Guard JJ Barea is signing a guaranteed one-year, $2.6M deal to return to the Dallas Mavericks, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.


Tim MacMahon @espn_macmahon · 33 min
Sources: J.J. Barea has agreed to a one-year deal with the Mavs for the veteran's minimum. This gives the Mavs 16 guaranteed contracts -- one over the regular-season roster limit -- so there will be a competition for a spot in camp.
The Mavs have not officially signed No. 31 overall pick Tyrell Terry, but he will fill one of the 15 roster spots. Source: Mavs plan to sign him to a contract similar to 2018 No. 33 pick Jalen Brunson, who has a 4-year, $6.1M deal. No. 36 pick Tyler Bey will be on a 2-way deal.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by VA-Mavs-Fan

This answers some Qs:


Shams Charania @ShamsCharania · 37 min
Guard JJ Barea is signing a guaranteed one-year, $2.6M deal to return to the Dallas Mavericks, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.


Tim MacMahon @espn_macmahon · 33 min
Sources: J.J. Barea has agreed to a one-year deal with the Mavs for the veteran's minimum. This gives the Mavs 16 guaranteed contracts -- one over the regular-season roster limit -- so there will be a competition for a spot in camp.
The Mavs have not officially signed No. 31 overall pick Tyrell Terry, but he will fill one of the 15 roster spots. Source: Mavs plan to sign him to a contract similar to 2018 No. 33 pick Jalen Brunson, who has a 4-year, $6.1M deal. No. 36 pick Tyler Bey will be on a 2-way deal.

I don't get the Barea thing? I guess we just have the cash left and we reward Barea for being awesome. Maybe lights a fire under the young guys even though Terry will probably win out. I like that Rick wants to keep guys hungry. The only problem is that once Terry gets a deal, if we cut him, we lose his rights. We can't just bump him down to the G-League while retaining rights. Most likely, Barea just gets waived and signs on as a coach while collecting that guaranteed money as a reward for loyalty.

Also I love that Brunson contract. They don't always work out (Roby and others), but when they do, you lock up a guy for cheap and long. 4 years 6 mill is a bargain for a guy like Brunson who has averaged 20 mpg over his first two seasons. Successful teams need those guys who produce but aren't paid much. If Terry sucks? He didn't really hurt our cap since he's barely over a cap hold. If he's good, then you just secured a potential second-stringer/starter for minimum money for multiple years of Doncic's reign.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I don't get the Barea thing? I guess we just have the cash left and we reward Barea for being awesome. Maybe lights a fire under the young guys even though Terry will probably win out. I like that Rick wants to keep guys hungry. The only problem is that once Terry gets a deal, if we cut him, we lose his rights. We can't just bump him down to the G-League while retaining rights. Most likely, Barea just gets waived and signs on as a coach while collecting that guaranteed money as a reward for loyalty.

Also I love that Brunson contract. They don't always work out (Roby and others), but when they do, you lock up a guy for cheap and long. 4 years 6 mill is a bargain for a guy like Brunson who has averaged 20 mpg over his first two seasons. Successful teams need those guys who produce but aren't paid much. If Terry sucks? He didn't really hurt our cap since he's barely over a cap hold. If he's good, then you just secured a potential second-stringer/starter for minimum money for multiple years of Doncic's reign.

I don't get it either......maybe he's our Udonis Haslem.....only thing I can think of.

[tap2390]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/c...tm_medium=mweb

The dawgs are on the way.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I don't get it either......maybe he's our Udonis Haslem.....only thing I can think of.

I think that's basically it. I think they just like having him in the locker room.

[NeedlesKane]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I don't get the Barea thing? I guess we just have the cash left and we reward Barea for being awesome. Maybe lights a fire under the young guys even though Terry will probably win out. I like that Rick wants to keep guys hungry. The only problem is that once Terry gets a deal, if we cut him, we lose his rights. We can't just bump him down to the G-League while retaining rights. Most likely, Barea just gets waived and signs on as a coach while collecting that guaranteed money as a reward for loyalty.

Also I love that Brunson contract. They don't always work out (Roby and others), but when they do, you lock up a guy for cheap and long. 4 years 6 mill is a bargain for a guy like Brunson who has averaged 20 mpg over his first two seasons. Successful teams need those guys who produce but aren't paid much. If Terry sucks? He didn't really hurt our cap since he's barely over a cap hold. If he's good, then you just secured a potential second-stringer/starter for minimum money for multiple years of Doncic's reign.

We're totally rewarding him, kinda like we rewarded Dirk one of his last seasons. When you have the money left you do this sort of thing. I doubt this means he's necessarily getting the last spot either. This just means we're paying him something as a thank you for his past services.

[VA-Mavs-Fan]

My guess is same as yours: JJB is getting $2.6M to go to camp, and then get cut, to be offered a coaching gig for more $$. and, if they are desperate for a backup PG during the season (e.g., due to injuries), they could sign JJB at that time, right? Would they cut either Boban or Iwundu, so they could keep JJB on the 15 man roster? I cannot see that. that would be stupid, IMO.

there is no way they will cut Tyler Terry. He gets 2 years minimum to show what he can do. He might be one of the top 3 shooters on the team on day 1 of training camp. He shot 48% on catch and shoot 3s in college. His 4 yr. contract is brilliance by the MBT.

Nate Hinton and Tyler Bey were supposed to be signed to 2-ways, but we are waiting to see.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Yeah, I don't think the plan is for Barea to have a roster spot. Really hope he coaches.

[EricaLubarsky]

Preseason Schedule
12/12 - @Milwaukee
12/14 - @Milwaukee
12/17 - Minnesota

[Dallas41]

Burke technically isn't new he played in the bubble.

Also played the prior year in Dallas and honestly should've been resigned the prior offseason.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Dallas41

Burke technically isn't new he played in the bubble.

Also played the prior year in Dallas and honestly should've been resigned the prior offseason.

Do you really have to be that guy every time?

He played 8 regular season games for us. That's it. He's a new addition. Not this offseason, but he's new. I never said he was new this offseason. Just that he joined is recently.

[NeedlesKane]

Originally Posted by Dallas41

Burke technically isn't new he played in the bubble.

Also played the prior year in Dallas and honestly should've been resigned the prior offseason.

I was going to post the same thing earlier, but I figured everyone here already knew that.

[EricaLubarsky]

https://twitter.com/kporzee/status/1...456251906?s=21

KP getting some shots up already

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

https://twitter.com/kporzee/status/1...456251906?s=21

KP getting some shots up already

That's encouraging. Who knows how long it will be before he can actually play, but it is encouraging.

[EricaLubarsky]

Players need to show up at the Mavs facility tomorrow.

Tuesday is the first day of camp

[KillerLeft]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Players need to show up at the Mavs facility tomorrow.

Tuesday is the first day of camp

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Definitely the dawgs. It's great that they embrace that and know exactly what the team needs. Such defined roles are really lacking with this team. Biggest issue last season was way too many chefs in the B squad kitchen with too many tweener players.

[rimrocker]

Read an interesting trade idea:

THJ/Maxi/Brunson
for
Lowry

Wonder if Raps would do it replacing Maxi with Powell.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

Read an interesting trade idea:

THJ/Maxi/Brunson
for
Lowry

Wonder if Raps would do it replacing Maxi with Powell.

EWww why would we do that?

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

EWww why would we do that?

Yeah I hate that deal. I'm not a fan of Lowry...he works for the Raptors sure but naw not my cup of tea.

[Scoobay]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

Read an interesting trade idea:

THJ/Maxi/Brunson
for
Lowry

Wonder if Raps would do it replacing Maxi with Powell.

honestly if he was 4-5 years younger maybe but then he wouldn't be available for this relatively low bundle... i just worry about the fall off at age 34 going on 35 and how he doesn't mesh with the Luka/KP timeframe.

[purplefrog]

I am looking forward to seeing the impact of JJ(ohnson). He could end up being an end of the bench guy or starting PF. Do teams play Luka differently with JJ on the court? Is he trade bait to land an impact player at the deadline? He's an intriguing wild card.

[Melonhead]

J Rich a starter.

Team had to submit two starters for media. Mavs chose Luka and Rich.

For anyone still debating that, it can be put to rest.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

J Rich a starter.

Team had to submit two starters for media. Mavs chose Luka and Rich.

For anyone still debating that, it can be put to rest.

Id be utterly shocked that anyone thought diffetently. Not sure there is a bigger no brainer involving the Mavs changes. In fact I think its safe to forever disregard anyone who might have though that. Forever

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

J Rich a starter.

Team had to submit two starters for media. Mavs chose Luka and Rich.

For anyone still debating that, it can be put to rest.

So we traded an oft-injured bench guy for a starter.