04-09-2011, 04:06 PM
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Its time for Jason Terry to shut up, own up to his mistakes, and just play
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DALLAS -- Jason Terry said he sees no need to apologize to his teammates and coaches for his second-quarter tirade on the bench during Friday night's game. He also said he doesn't regret that the screaming match that included himself, J.J. Barea and coach Rick Carlisle unfolded in such a public manner in front of more than 20,000 at the American Airlines Center.
"I don't think it became public at all," Terry said. "Again, coach made a decision, we all rolled with it, you seen me on the bench, I'm cheering on my guys to win the game whatever happens. I don't think it was public at all...Again, it happened, it's over with and we're moving forward."
Terry confronted Barea when the players reached the bench during a timeout. It appeared both were annoyed by the other after the preceding play in which Terry turned the ball over and Los Angeles Clippers guard Eric Gordon scored on a driving layup. After Terry and Barea exchanged words, Carlisle became agitated and shook his finger emphatically at Terry and then booted him from the timeout huddle.
Terry didn't go quietly while being escorted by assistant coaches and teammates to the end of the bench. Owner Mark Cuban then leaned over a seated Terry and managed to calm him down. Terry said after Saturday's practice that at this time in the season, emotions run hot.
"It's playoff time. Emotions are going to be high at this time of the season," Terry said. "The last couple of years we've kind of been real lax and kind of went through the emotions. But, this year is totally different. As you can see these games are intense. Positively or negatively, something's going to spark off and happen. And, last night I let it become negative and so going forward it's just not going to be that. It's going to be all positive, but we're going to channel our energies in the right direction. But, as you know, again, these times now are very intense and it's going to be like that for the next two or three months."
After the game, Carlisle said the team planned no further discipline for Terry, who played just shy of eight minutes and was scoreless. This is the third incident in the past 10 days in which Terry has lost his cool. He received a flagrant foul for shoving Steve Blake in the blowout loss to the Los Angeles Lakers on March 31 and he was hit with a technical foul late in Wednesday's loss to the Denver Nuggets.
After the Nuggets game, Carlisle said that Terry knows the game plan of every playoff opponent will be to try to rile him and throw him off his game. He said Terry has to play smarter and must keep his composure. On Saturday, Carlisle said he's not worried about Terry's emotions getting the best of him.
"He's fine," Carlisle said, "and he's going to be fine."
At the time of the tirade, the Mavs trailed the lottery-bound Clippers, 39-25 with 9:54 left in the first half. After the tirade, the Mavs outscored the Clippers, 82-57, the rest of the way. Whether the incident sparked a team going through the motions to that point or it was simply coincidence is debatable. And, how it affects the team moving forward will be seen.
Jason Kidd, who did not play in the game, but was on the bench, said ultimately the ugly scene was a good thing.
"Everybody's going through that, being upset, frustrated," Kidd said. "I think it was a good thing that it happened. We came with a little bit of fire in our belly in that second half. We were just walking around in that first half, and we had a great practice today. So, sometimes things like that that happen, nobody takes them personally, it's just that we want to win and we all want to pinch in and help."
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just shut it
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04-09-2011, 04:08 PM
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He should have apologized.
But still, sounds like everything's fine.
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"Oh yeah, that’s my boy," Barea said of Terry, his career-long teammate. "He’s my favorite teammate since I’ve been here."
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Yep, the locker room is torn apart.
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04-09-2011, 05:10 PM
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It still should of never happened.
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04-09-2011, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
He should have apologized.
But still, sounds like everything's fine.
Yep, the locker room is torn apart.
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Dude, your shit is getting old.
We get it - you like Terry and believe in him. It must be frustrating watching him let you down so often here lately given your stance. It also must be equally frustrating watching him act like a Fing baby. Given the situation, maybe just being quiet a bit more is the way to go - especially considering all of your whining about the way this board governs itself and responds in general. Maybe take a break. At least take a break from this stance. It is exhausting.
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04-09-2011, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Male29Dan
Dude, your shit is getting old.
We get it - you like Terry and believe in him. It must be frustrating watching him let you down so often here lately given your stance. It also must be equally frustrating watching him act like a Fing baby. Given the situation, maybe just being quiet a bit more is the way to go - especially considering all of your whining about the way this board governs itself and responds in general. Maybe take a break. At least take a break from this stance. It is exhausting.
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I apologize for the radical stance I took in this thread in which I stated that Mr. Terry should have apologized to his friend and teammate for being a jackass. I'm sure it's been quite exhausting for you to read my 3-4 posts on this issue since the incident occurred less than 18 hours ago.
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04-09-2011, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Male29Dan
Dude, your shit is getting old.
We get it - you like Terry and believe in him. It must be frustrating watching him let you down so often here lately given your stance. It also must be equally frustrating watching him act like a Fing baby. Given the situation, maybe just being quiet a bit more is the way to go - especially considering all of your whining about the way this board governs itself and responds in general. Maybe take a break. At least take a break from this stance. It is exhausting.
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What a weird post.
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04-09-2011, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
I apologize for the radical stance I took in this thread in which I stated that Mr. Terry should have apologized to his friend and teammate for being a jackass. I'm sure it's been quite exhausting for you to read my 3-4 posts on this issue since the incident occurred less than 18 hours ago.
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I am talking about your overall sack sucking stance on Terry - it is getting worse than Cad's stance on Dirk. That should've been obvious to both you and Thiggy. "Should've" of course being the key part of that previous sentence.
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04-09-2011, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
What a weird post.
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An equally weird contribution. Thanks?
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04-09-2011, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Male29Dan
I am talking about your overall sack sucking stance on Terry - it is getting worse than Cad's stance on Dirk. That should've been obvious to both you and Thiggy. "Should've" of course being the key part of that previous sentence.
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Originally Posted by Male29Dan
An equally weird contribution. Thanks?
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Sounds like a "you" problem.
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04-09-2011, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Male29Dan
I am talking about your overall sack sucking stance on Terry - it is getting worse than Cad's stance on Dirk. That should've been obvious to both you and Thiggy. "Should've" of course being the key part of that previous sentence.
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It was obvious what you were talking about. What makes it confusing is that Dub has hardly been doing "sack sucking" over the past 24 hours.
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04-09-2011, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
It was obvious what you were talking about. What makes it confusing is that Dub has hardly been doing "sack sucking" over the past 24 hours.
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Suggesting that a person should apologize and then offering a backhanded sarcastic comment to make it sound as if it meant nothing in reality is NOT a radical change. ...And yes, I read the other thread.
At least you agree that prior to the past 24 hours he HAS been sucking that sack.
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04-09-2011, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
Sounds like a "you" problem.
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Yeah. You got me. I am the problem.
Here Fer... Look in it:
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04-09-2011, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Male29Dan
Suggesting that a person should apologize and then offering a backhanded sarcastic comment to make it sound as if it meant nothing in reality is NOT a radical change. ...And yes, I read the other thread.
At least you agree that prior to the past 24 hours he HAS been sucking that sack.
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I tend to agree that in the long run it really does mean nothing. Teammates fight in sports. It's sad that it was so public, and it really frustrates me that Jet can't man up and address it. But I certainly don't think it's a sign that the locker room is in a bad place.
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04-09-2011, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Male29Dan
Yeah. You got me. I am the problem.
Here Fer... Look in it:
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Oh, snap! You showed me.
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04-09-2011, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
I tend to agree that in the long run it really does mean nothing. Teammates fight in sports. It's sad that it was so public, and it really frustrates me that Jet can't man up and address it. But I certainly don't think it's a sign that the locker room is in a bad place.
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I don't at all disagree with the overall sentiment that Terry has not yet driven a stake into the heart of this team's chemistry. That said, resorting to those same sarcastic comments that I have been reading from him for the better part of a month that roughly call those that are against Terry stupid - well, it was enough to warrant my post. Read the title of this thread. Now read the actual post from the person that started the thread. Do you actually disagree?
The bottom line is that you don't have to agree with the bulk of my first post (and I posted it, so of course you don't) but in the future maybe you can let a full hour go by before you find something I type and post the exact opposite. Just saying. You hang on to my nuts (in a pessimistic way of course) worse than Dub/Bane hang on Dirk/Terry's nuts combined.
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04-09-2011, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
Oh, snap! You showed me.
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Really?
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04-09-2011, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Male29Dan
I don't at all disagree with the overall sentiment that Terry has not yet driven a stake into the heart of this team's chemistry. That said, resorting to those same sarcastic comments that I have been reading from him for the better part of a month that roughly call those that are against Terry stupid - well, it was enough to warrant my post. Read the title of this thread. Now read the actual post from the person that started the thread. Do you actually disagree?
The bottom line is that you don't have to agree with the bulk of my first post (and I posted it, so of course you don't) but in the future maybe you can let a full hour go by before you find something I type and post the exact opposite. Just saying. You hang on to my nuts (in a pessimistic way of course) worse than Dub/Bane hang on Dirk/Terry's nuts combined.
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It certainly wasn't lost on me that Dub and I have been butting heads more than normal recently, but you coming along unites us. I got a chuckle out of that before even reading this post.
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04-09-2011, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
It certainly wasn't lost on me that Dub and I have been butting heads more than normal recently, but you coming along unites us. I got a chuckle out of that before even reading this post.
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Nice...
Been doing it since 2003:
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04-09-2011, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Male29Dan
That said, resorting to those same sarcastic comments that I have been reading from him for the better part of a month that roughly call those that are against Terry stupid - well, it was enough to warrant my post.
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I've simply got to be more damn careful with what I "roughly" say. It's downright inexcusable that I'm so narrowly focused on what I "actually" say. Forgive?
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Really?
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Well, you showed me I should never listen to any advice you have to give on how I should conduct myself, anyway.
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04-09-2011, 07:11 PM
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It's time to release Terry from the roster a la Vernon Maxwell.
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04-09-2011, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
I've simply got to be more damn careful with what I "roughly" say. It's downright inexcusable that I'm so narrowly focused on what I "actually" say. Forgive?
Well, you showed me I should never listen to any advice you have to give on how I should conduct myself, anyway.
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04-09-2011, 11:16 PM
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Terry's an idiot.
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04-09-2011, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Male29Dan
Dude, your shit is getting old.
We get it - you like Terry and believe in him. It must be frustrating watching him let you down so often here lately given your stance. It also must be equally frustrating watching him act like a Fing baby. Given the situation, maybe just being quiet a bit more is the way to go - especially considering all of your whining about the way this board governs itself and responds in general. Maybe take a break. At least take a break from this stance. It is exhausting.
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.....wat?
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04-10-2011, 12:10 AM
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If Barea's going to get in fights with Terry he'd better invest in a cup.
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04-10-2011, 01:23 AM
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Terry = this year's Josh Howard.
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04-10-2011, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Thompson
If Barea's going to get in fights with Terry he'd better invest in a cup.
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only 6 posts - and this is gold!
welcome on board.
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04-10-2011, 07:22 AM
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The problem is that Terry thinks he's the most important player for the team. He also thinks everybody loves him.
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04-10-2011, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Luc
The problem is that Terry thinks he's the most important player for the team. He also thinks everybody loves him.
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I don't love him for sure!!!
He is important player for this team when he plays well.At this moment he sucks well!!!
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04-10-2011, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Male29Dan
Yeah. You got me. I am the problem.
Here Fer... Look in it:
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Wait, there's no reflection in that mirror. Are you saying you're a vampire?
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04-10-2011, 09:57 AM
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Terry is a cancer, he needs to go this off season.
He overrates himself too much.
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04-10-2011, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ShadowLink
Terry is a cancer, he needs to go this off season.
He overrates himself too much.
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this
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04-10-2011, 01:14 PM
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i thought it was a magnifying glass, i didn't get it
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04-12-2011, 11:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowLink
Terry is a cancer, he needs to go this off season.
He overrates himself too much.
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He was quoted on 103.3 espn saying prior to that last laker game they got blown out on that kobe "doesn't want to be chasing me and roddy in the back court" all night. (that may not be the exact word for word quote but close enough) Blew my mind reading that even before they got spanked.
I'm not saying this just b/c it's one of the obvious weakest links in the chain this year, I've always said what has he done in the playoffs when it mattered?! Except for punching michael finley in the balls one year he's always been a no show. The thing that pisses me off is that Cuban is so high up on him that I can't see him ever wanting to get rid of him. If carlisle was smart he would limit him to about as much time as barea.
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04-12-2011, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Luc
The problem is that Terry thinks he's the most important player for the team. He also thinks everybody loves him.
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So over the top.
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04-12-2011, 09:45 PM
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I really wish that he was playing better.
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