Dallas-Denver talks heating up...LaFrentz and Van Excel to Dallas? - Page 3 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

LonestarROB · 02-21-2002, 04:48 PM

LMAO Hales [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

grbh · 02-21-2002, 04:50 PM

You are right, Hales. I think we have to get Polynice then.

Big Boy Laroux · 02-21-2002, 04:50 PM

ok, i'll start thinking nothing's gonna happen, so if nothing does happen, i won't be let down...

Murphy3 · 02-21-2002, 04:51 PM

no...i don't think anything will happen...however,..i sure hope it does

foglemann · 02-21-2002, 04:53 PM

I just hope New York is not envovled, I want Van Exel and Lafrenz. Some did say that it could still be a three way deal, but New York doesn't have that much to offer. One of the NBA guys at ESPN said a smart comment about Bradley going to the Knicks because of there big man troubles. We will have to see, I think something will go down, this deal is very fresh and I have a good feeling about it, just done stone me to death if it doesn't.

mick · 02-21-2002, 04:59 PM

Hales,
His contract then becoems part of future trade to make a cap match.

Maringa · 02-21-2002, 05:01 PM

Sorry, I was wrong about the time...1 hour to go...

NYMavFan · 02-21-2002, 05:02 PM

<< Someone that has ESPN insider go checkout what their saying. There a link on the front page about Howard going to Denver but you gotta be an insider. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] >>

Just checked it. Insider says nothing. It appears they updated their headline link before the actual content page itself

grbh · 02-21-2002, 05:03 PM

OK Murphy, I am inclined to agree with you. Rumors spread like wildfire. The only thing that gives me hope is something I heard on Fish. Now I know you are not his greatest fan, but they went to a reporter at the AAc I guess it was. He tried to get to talk to Nellie, and some others on the coaching staff this afternoon. He was shut out, and he also mentioned that he could see Nellie was intently working his phone.
Now that kaes me believe that something is going on. Is it the trade we are all discussing who knows. It may not even come down, but I think they are trying to get something done.

madape · 02-21-2002, 05:11 PM

Here's the ESPN Insider article

AFTERNOON UPDATE: Knicks president Scott Layden and Mavs owner Mark Cuban stayed up late Wednesday night discussing a trade that would send Juwan Howard to New York for Marcus Camby, Shandon Anderson and Charlie Ward.

While those talks stalled, according to the Newark Star Ledger, it appears that they're heating up again as the 6 p.m. trade deadline, this time including the Nuggets. A high-placed Nuggets source has confirmed to ESPN.com this afternoon that Denver is talking with Dallas about a trade that would give Howard, Nick Van Exel and Raef LaFrentz new homes. In addition, the Mavs are still talking with the Knicks about a three-way, including the Nuggets, that would send Van Exel to New York and potentially Camby to Dallas.

Sources say that different variations of the deal exist and some don't include the Knicks at all, instead sending Van Exel, LaFrentz and Tariq Abdul Wahad to Dallas with Howard, Tim Hardaway and Donnell Harvey headed to Denver.

Howard isn't as unmovable as you would think. With many teams trying to get cap relief, Howard suddenly becomes a vehicle toward that end. He has one year remaining on his contract, meaning a team could lop of close to $20 million dollars by the summer of '03. Not too shabby. That's why Knicks GM Scott Layden was so anxious to land the disappointing big man.

LonestarROB · 02-21-2002, 05:14 PM

That's the insider article?

hehe cool. It the same article that's open to everybody on their Rumor board. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Thanks anyway.

madape · 02-21-2002, 05:15 PM

Would Finley be the fifth best player in our starting linup? Its not as stupid a question as you would think. Just a thought.

madape · 02-21-2002, 05:25 PM

Current MagicMetric player Ratings:

Dirk #7
Nash #24
Van Exel #25
LaFrenz #40
Finley #65

madape · 02-21-2002, 05:26 PM

http://www.magicmetric.com/

foglemann · 02-21-2002, 05:33 PM

Anybody hearing anything, we got less than 30 minutes, this will be very close, hopefully someone has some new info.

Murphy3 · 02-21-2002, 05:35 PM

well, i would say 4th or 5th...
would he be the #2 scorer on the team though?..
i think van exel would have to settle for 15 a game..and lafrentz would have to settle for 12-14 a game..
i dont' know..how would this offense run?
it's already having some problems currently with nash and dirk deferring to fin a bit too much..what will it be like with 5 scorers on the team?

Dooby · 02-21-2002, 05:37 PM

Guy on LMF says that a guy on ESPN Message Board that ESPN Radio adn David Aldridge report that deal is done b/w Denver and Dallas only.

For those lawyers keeping track, that would be hearsay within hearsay within hearsay within hearsay.

Murphy3 · 02-21-2002, 05:39 PM

waiting for the trade deadline to come is kinda like the double overtime game...except much more intense...pure intensity for the final 10 hours before the deadline..
i'm trying to tell myself that nothing will happen..just so i won't be disappointed if nothing does...
kinda like telling myself that it's ok if the mavs lost the double OT game..that it's just one game..even though i knew a loss would hurt the team more than a win

Murphy3 · 02-21-2002, 05:40 PM

that's not what i heard dooby..

and sorry for posting twice in a row..i know some find it offensive

MFFL · 02-21-2002, 05:42 PM

Patience is a virtue - I'm not feeling very virtious right now.

Murphy3 · 02-21-2002, 05:43 PM

i agree mffl...definitely intense...come on..get it done

Dooby · 02-21-2002, 05:46 PM

Dooby-Adds more cynicism to his post to show he doubts the report he referenced earlier.

Happy Murph? I doubt the report also. But like Fox News, "I report, you decide"

MavsFanFinley · 02-21-2002, 05:46 PM

I've done it before, gotten excited about a rumor like this only to be let down.

Right now Im trying to tell myself not to get excited, we'll be fine if nothing happens.

It's very hard.

Go Mavs.

madape · 02-21-2002, 05:50 PM

T minus ten minutes and counting.

foglemann · 02-21-2002, 05:55 PM

I am getting way to wound up on this stuff, I can't believe I am so stressed out about this. Man if nothing happens, we know what we have, but it would be let down, all the hipe. Even the whole league, not to many deals that mean anything have gone down, this would mix up things quite nicely and get some more people watching the NBA. We are running out of time.

MavKikiNYC · 02-21-2002, 05:58 PM

No way Van Exel and Nash start in the same backcourt.

madape · 02-21-2002, 05:58 PM

Rob was right. The deadline is 5:00pm central. They don't have to announch the trade before that time. We could not know until sometime immediatly before the game tonight.

Murphy3 · 02-21-2002, 05:59 PM

still no word..espn is waiting to see if they hear anything about the trade....i say we just cut juwan anyways even if the trade isn't made

foglemann · 02-21-2002, 06:02 PM

Van Exel would be great for our back court, a clutch player that can dribble with ease and cuts to the basket great. he would be like the point guard and Nash would be the point guard. It would work fine, and we won't have to give up anybody that is doing that much, timmy is ok, but who cares and Harvey has not been able to play, howard is the only one and Lafrenz can kill Howard's numbers if he wanted to. We will see

Drbio · 02-21-2002, 06:03 PM

Reports on the radio say Denver has called a press conference. Anyone heard anything on the Dallas end?

Doc

Murphy3 · 02-21-2002, 06:03 PM

to be honest..i don't really know if there's an aspect of howard's game that i like better than LaFrentz's

Murphy3 · 02-21-2002, 06:04 PM

haven't heard anything....and doc..don't know if i've done this yet..but welcome to the board

Big Boy Laroux · 02-21-2002, 06:05 PM

he can grow more facial hair? and he has more STDs...

Murphy3 · 02-21-2002, 06:07 PM

this isn't pure shock value...but i'm gonna say that juwan howard is uglier than either sam cassell or popeye jones

foglemann · 02-21-2002, 06:09 PM

good call there BBL

Drbio · 02-21-2002, 06:09 PM

Thanks Murph...the radio program I am listening to out of Waco is just speculating now. I guess they actually had confirmation on the press conference call for Denver. We shall see. Dealines over. At the latest, we will know during pregame if Juwan doesn't show up.

Doc

Drbio · 02-21-2002, 06:10 PM

BBL- all the more reason to trade him...ew!

MavsFanFinley · 02-21-2002, 06:11 PM

On Espn, David Aldridge says nothing is close to happening, but the big trade is the Dallas/Denver deal.

And that everyone is keeping an eye on that one. Well, it's past the deadline, so did it get done or not?

He said Phoenix made a last minute effort (again) to get Marc Jackson, but GS wasn't having any of it. The Suns were offering Bo Outlaw and a pick.

He also said that Miami tried to get James Posey from Denver.

So, there doesn't seem to be the NY/Dallas/Denver deal, if DA can be believed.

Blonde Bomber · 02-21-2002, 06:11 PM

Dallas Press Conference @ 6:00 pm!!!!

Dooby · 02-21-2002, 06:13 PM

Let us start a new thread for post-deadline discussion. there are two going on now.