Postgame Thread: Mavs steal one in Memphis and get 10x50 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

LonghornDub · 03-31-2010, 09:59 PM

Tenth straight 50-win season. Discuss.

GermanDunk · 03-31-2010, 10:00 PM

S-game

sefant77 · 03-31-2010, 10:00 PM

Rebounding killed us big time in the 2nd half

Dirk 1st half sucking, great in the 2nd

Terry great first half, solala 2nd but got killed in defense again

Marion sucking game

CadBane · 03-31-2010, 10:02 PM

Dirk is now 10-16 on threes in his past five games.

He was 33-94 in his previous sixty-seven games.

I think he should continue to take 3-5 threes a game.

RareMilk · 03-31-2010, 10:02 PM

50x10 Wins remedies 50x10 suicides.

Dirkadirkastan · 03-31-2010, 10:02 PM

The FedEx Forum had some serious flashbacks tonight.

rmacomic · 03-31-2010, 10:03 PM

Very encouraging win. Earlier this year this team would have given up and chalked a loss to a bad shooting night, but this team maned up in the last 8 minutes and pulled out a win when losing was imminent.

Sportstudi · 03-31-2010, 10:05 PM

Ugly win, but I take it.

CATCH-17 · 03-31-2010, 10:05 PM

Roddy do anything?

Jon Avalon · 03-31-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

The FedEx Forum had some serious flashbacks tonight.

hehe, just what i was thinking went he hit those two big 3's.

Bet the fans were thinking " OH F**K NOT AGAIN!!!! "

aurelino9 · 03-31-2010, 10:06 PM

Gotta be a big endorsement of the rook by RC to basically play him the last 17 minutes straight and overlooking some mistakes he made earlier in the game.

Dirk played poorly until about 5 minutes left in the 4th and then he almost didn't miss.

Kidd's defense was stellar in the 4th and OT.
Terry was the one who carried the team in the first half and he did ok in the second.
Marion was a non-factor and Butler struggled.
One has to question Haywood's basketball IQ for taking the foul so early on Randoph. I can't imagine RC instructing him to do so.

Rick41 · 03-31-2010, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

The FedEx Forum had some serious flashbacks tonight.

I got kicked out of the hospital after Dirk hit that shot for being too rowdy and disturbing patients.

bernardos70 · 03-31-2010, 10:11 PM

Over 500 wins in 10 regular seasons. One constant.

Take a bow to this team. And take a bow to that one constant.

rabbitproof · 03-31-2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aurelino9

Gotta be a big endorsement of the rook by RC to basically play him the last 17 minutes straight and overlooking some mistakes he made earlier in the game.

Good point. Booby is here to stay!

conjurer · 03-31-2010, 10:15 PM

Win! Once again Mavs grinding it out at the last minute while half of the ppl here have already screamed "forfeit".

DULLAH · 03-31-2010, 10:19 PM

Word on that constant bernardos.

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

The FedEx Forum had some serious flashbacks tonight.

Good find.

particleman · 03-31-2010, 10:19 PM

I've been out of the loop a bit the past few days.. What's the deal with JJ?

CadBane · 03-31-2010, 10:19 PM

Roddy did a pretty good job on Conley. Much better than Kidd and Terry. I'd like to see Roddy get some minutes on those quick PG's (Rondo, Parker, Conley, Lowry, CP3, ect.) that give Kidd issues.

badfish22 · 03-31-2010, 10:22 PM

Roddy B Free

BGMaverick9 · 03-31-2010, 10:25 PM

Stealing is Fun!

They were ridiculously lethargic up until the 4 minute mark in the 4th quarter. When they were down 11 and went with the 3 guard lineup, they started to make a push. It was funny, I was telling myself if they had another 5-7 minutes they'd probably win the game...they luckily got that with overtime.

Windmill360 · 03-31-2010, 10:26 PM

Overtime? Really? Overtime?

Sigh

Windmill360 · 03-31-2010, 10:26 PM

Overtime? Really? Overtime?

Sigh

badfish22 · 03-31-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

Overtime? Really? Overtime?

Sigh

I'm just glad we won. I didn't have a good feeling going in to it.

BGMaverick9 · 03-31-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by aurelino9

One has to question Haywood's basketball IQ for taking the foul so early on Randoph. I can't imagine RC instructing him to do so.

That's not really true. Overall, I think Haywood has a relatively good BBall IQ and in this instance it just depends on who the coach is for your end of game theory in that spot. Some coaches don't believe in fouling, "it's a cop out, just play defense." Then you have some coaches who don't wanna take the chance, just use your asset (great FT shooting) and take away their potential saving shot.

He fouled before anything had a chance to develop, you never know what can happen...better to be safe than sorry.

DULLAH · 03-31-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by conjurer

Win! Once again Mavs grinding it out at the last minute while half of the ppl here have already screamed "forfeit".

I've wondered once or twice while browsing this ofrum, if it isn't easier, for someone from out of town who watches less games than the hometown fans, to remain an optimistic fan in all situations. It's like a cousin to some zen sh!t, where when you have no expectations, you're never let down.

Or maybe it's simpler, and these dudes on the board have been mavs fans since before Kidd got drafted.

Murphy3 · 03-31-2010, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by aurelino9

Gotta be a big endorsement of the rook by RC to basically play him the last 17 minutes straight and overlooking some mistakes he made earlier in the game.

Dirk played poorly until about 5 minutes left in the 4th and then he almost didn't miss.

Kidd's defense was stellar in the 4th and OT.
Terry was the one who carried the team in the first half and he did ok in the second.
Marion was a non-factor and Butler struggled.
One has to question Haywood's basketball IQ for taking the foul so early on Randoph. I can't imagine RC instructing him to do so.

Obviously the Mavs wanted to foul quickly to make sure that the Grizzlies didn't get a three pointer off.

tcat075 · 03-31-2010, 10:34 PM

Didn't deserve to win this one. Dirk took over for us.

Not quite like Utah, Dirk wasn't the same degree of dominant, but he was dominant and the only reason we got a win here.

aurelino9 · 03-31-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

That's not really true. Overall, I think Haywood has a relatively good BBall IQ and in this instance it just depends on who the coach is for your end of game theory in that spot. Some coaches don't believe in fouling, "it's a cop out, just play defense." Then you have some coaches who don't wanna take the chance, just use your asset (great FT shooting) and take away their potential saving shot.

He fouled before anything had a chance to develop, you never know what can happen...better to be safe than sorry.

Yes, but there were close to 10 seconds on the clock. If they don't foul, at worst, the score is tied and the Mavs get the ball back with a timeout or there is overtime.
With this, though, they make both FTs and it is suddenly a 1 point game with 10 seconds left. The Griz did a poor job guarding Dirk on the inbound but what if Beaubois or someone had to catch it and then they missed one FT? In that situation the Mavs could lose the game on a desperation 3. Dirk made it all moot in the end, thankfully.

fluid.forty.one · 03-31-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Dirk is now 10-16 on threes in his past five games.

He was 33-94 in his previous sixty-seven games.

I think he should continue to take 3-5 threes a game.

I completely agree. There's nothing that gets me (and the AAC) more pumped than a Dirk 3.

edit: wow, this post rhymes way too much.

tcat075 · 03-31-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Murphy3

Obviously the Mavs wanted to foul quickly to make sure that the Grizzlies didn't get a three pointer off.

With this team, RC made the right call. A few more seconds could have been drained off, perhaps, but turning this game into a free throw shooting contest at the end of games is exactly what we want.

aurelino9 · 03-31-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Murphy3

Obviously the Mavs wanted to foul quickly to make sure that the Grizzlies didn't get a three pointer off.

Yes, but that's normally done when the other team doesn't have a timeout and there's much less time on the clock.

Murphy3 · 03-31-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tcat075

Didn't deserve to win this one. Dirk took over for us.

Not quite like Utah, Dirk wasn't the same degree of dominant, but he was dominant and the only reason we got a win here.

Sure the Mavs deserved it. They scored more points... Therefore, they deserved to win it. Fortunately for us, by league rules, the team that scores more points wins the game. It would really be bad for the NBA to go against the rules of the game of basketball by declaring the team that scores fewer points the winner.

And yes, I am obviously joking.

Dirkadirkastan · 03-31-2010, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Stealing is Fun!

They were ridiculously lethargic up until the 4 minute mark in the 4th quarter. When they were down 11 and went with the 3 guard lineup, they started to make a push. It was funny, I was telling myself if they had another 5-7 minutes they'd probably win the game...they luckily got that with overtime.

One of the most significant things about the Denver win, in my opinion, was that the Mavs won that game according to Plan A. They were able to play big, and yet still be athletic enough to match up with and overpower Denver.

Most of the time, the Mavs have had to steal wins by going small and/or playing zone defense because Plan A never works. This is one of my bigger concerns because I have my doubts whether this gimmicky stuff will work in the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

That's not really true. Overall, I think Haywood has a relatively good BBall IQ and in this instance it just depends on who the coach is for your end of game theory in that spot. Some coaches don't believe in fouling, "it's a cop out, just play defense." Then you have some coaches who don't wanna take the chance, just use your asset (great FT shooting) and take away their potential saving shot.

He fouled before anything had a chance to develop, you never know what can happen...better to be safe than sorry.

Carlisle originally didn't like to foul, but we kept getting burned with threes early in the year. So now he's changed his mentality and the Mavs now try to prevent the opponent even thinking about a three.

BGMaverick9 · 03-31-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aurelino9

Yes, but there were close to 10 seconds on the clock. If they don't foul, at worst, the score is tied and the Mavs get the ball back with a timeout or there is overtime.
With this, though, they make both FTs and it is suddenly a 1 point game with 10 seconds left. The Griz did a poor job guarding Dirk on the inbound but what if Beaubois or someone had to catch it and then they missed one FT? In that situation the Mavs could lose the game on a desperation 3. Dirk made it all moot in the end, thankfully.

More often than not guys like Dirk or Jet are going to find a way to get open for the inbound pass, it's not necessarily an instance where Memphis did a poor job guarding Dirk. Good players are used to that situation and they know what they have to do to get free for a second. If they aren't....well that is why you manage your timeouts wisely, it can bail you out. Then you have an opportunity to create a multitude of leak-out options for Dirk or Jet to spring free for the ball...you can even move the ball up to midcourt and free up more space to roam. In the situation they were in, there was zero to very little risk fouling there.

xrobx · 03-31-2010, 10:50 PM

I didn't get to watch the game but I know why we won. I'm at disney world in orlando. At about 9:50 10 minutes before the fireworks I went to check the score on my phone, mavs were doen like 13 or 11. So during the wishes fireworks I made a wish that the mavs would come back and win and then win the championship. You're welcome.

ghazi · 03-31-2010, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

Overtime? Really? Overtime?

Sigh

I hope this is sarcastic! It's not as if the Grizzlies are a complete slouch and COnley/Randolph expose some of the Mavs defensive weaknesses.

Very happy with this win. We overcame a bizarre stretch of poor shooting and got hot at the end.

I liked the rotations too... center in at all time, Beaubois getting minutes... 3 guards works with a C and especially with Booby's superior wing span to Barea's t-rex arms.

BGMaverick9 · 03-31-2010, 10:56 PM

Haywood, Dirk, Marion, Roddy, Kidd

That's a very sexy lineup...especially when you take into account it's highly effective for BOTH sides of the floor. You've got two pieces (Haywood and Marion) who can do their damage in the paint. Kidd can extend the defense, Roddy can as well but he can penetrate into the lane as well. Then you can cap it off with the stud.

Dirk isn't great on defense but he would have 4 very capable guys on the floor to help support him.

fluid.forty.one · 03-31-2010, 10:57 PM

I still can't believe that Rick put Beaubois in at the end of the game. Awesome.

skakavac · 03-31-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

More often than not guys like Dirk or Jet are going to find a way to get open for the inbound pass, it's not necessarily an instance where Memphis did a poor job guarding Dirk. Good players are used to that situation and they know what they have to do to get free for a second. If they aren't....well that is why you manage your timeouts wisely, it can bail you out. Then you have an opportunity to create a multitude of leak-out options for Dirk or Jet to spring free for the ball...you can even move the ball up to midcourt and free up more space to roam. In the situation they were in, there was zero to very little risk fouling there.

i liked it a lot. only thought it was a little bit to early. i will take a FT-Contest between dirk against anybody if the lead is three points. zach was 3-6 from the line.

The main reason i think its works is because it forces the other team into bad threes because they know the cant advance the ball anymore the next trip

StackAttack · 03-31-2010, 11:11 PM

Can anyone recap for me? Reading through some threads here and over at DB.com, Roddy had an awful game (I can't tell from the box score) and Dirk did some amazing things. And Roddy did something stupid at the free throw line? I don't really know what's happening. Someone enlighten me.