Predraft Athlete Tests at Chicago - ESPN Pg2

[dirt_dobber]

OK I dont' have access to the Page2 "Insider" but could someone who does please
post the info?

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Thanks!

[bob_sacamento]

Don't have the list dobber, but I heard Oklahoma State's Joey Graham tested out as the top athlete, and Florida's David Lee was the top PF.

[The Miles]

There are three ways to help your draft stock at the Chicago predraft camp.

First, you can actually play well in the event, like Luther Head and David Lee did, and convince scouts that you're first-round material.

Second, you can stand against a wall, spread your arms out and possibly measure longer/bigger than team originally thought you were. Guys like Chris Paul and Ike Diogu did that this year.

Finally, you can go through the NBA draft combine and prove to scouts that you're quicker, stronger, or can jump higher than your original scouting report.

Insider exclusively obtained a list of the Chicago pre-draft camp combine results on Wednesday. The combine measures four key areas: strength (bench press repetitions of 185 pounds), vertical jump, lane agility (how fast a player moves laterally around the key), and speed (¾-court sprint). Then the league adds those up and gives an athletic ranking to each player in the draft.

The overall winner this year was Oklahoma State's Joey Graham, who blew away the competition. Second was Georgia Tech's Will Bynum. Other top players with good scores included Rashad McCants (3rd overall), Luther Head (6th), David Lee (11th), Marvin Williams (15th), Chris Paul (16th) and Raymond Felton (18th).

There was one major surprise in the top 20 -- Illinois point guard Deron Williams finished 10th, ahead of both Paul and Felton. Part of that had to do with strength; Williams bench pressed 185 pounds 15 times, which is really great for a point guard. However, that wasn't the full story.

There have been major questions about Williams' lateral quickness, but he actually tested quicker than Paul in the lane agility drill and finished .03 seconds behind Paul in the sprint. Williams has lost about 15 pounds and is down to 7½ percent body fat, which obviously has helped his athleticism.

The bottom end of the spectrum included mostly international players and lumbering big men. Georgia Tech center Luke Schensher finished at the bottom of the list (75th). Ersan Ilyasova (74th) and Martynas Andriuskevicius (73rd) also tested poorly.

The shock on the low end was high school star Monta Ellis, who finished 70th. His strength, vertical jump and lateral quickness were all on the low end of the scale. That could be devastating to his draft chances.

Other disappointments included Andrew Bogut (61st), Martell Webster (60th), Rudy Fernandez (57th), Antoine Wright (55th), Jarrett Jack (54th) and Francisco Garcia (51st).

Luther Head ranked as the most athletic point guard in camp. Will Bynum took the award for the 2-guards. Joey Graham won for 3s, David Lee for 4s and Marcin Gortat for centers.

Ellis was the worst ranked guard in camp at either position. Ilyasova finished last among small forwards while Taylor Coppenrath was last for power forwards and Luke Schenscher finished at the bottom of the heap for centers.

On the individual test front, Will Bynum recorded the highest one-step vertical jump at 40½ inches. Gerald Green and Ronnie Price tied for second at 39 inches, followed by Luther Head at 38½. Chris Paul and Hakim Warrick rounded out the top-five, each launching a 38-inch leap.

Luke Schensher recorded the worst vertical jump, at 26½ inches. He was followed by Taylor Coppenrath and Jason Klotz (27 inches) and Martynas Andriuskevicius and Wayne Simien (27½ inches).

Joey Graham won the strength test, bench pressing 185 pounds an impressive 26 times. Ike Diogu finished second with 21 reps, followed by Chuck Hayes with 20. Channing Frye helped himself shed the soft label a bit by hoisting the bar 19 times. Eric Williams, Marcin Gortat and David Simon all finished tied for fifth with 18 reps.

As happens every year, several top players were unable or barely able to do this drill. Monta Ellis, Rudy Fernandez, Martynas Andriuskevicius, Brandon Rush and Daryl Dorsey got a zero for the drill. Luke Schensher and Travis Diener could only lift the bar once.

In the lane agility drill, Michigan State's Alan Anderson recorded the fastest time at 10.32 seconds. Rashad McCants was second at 10.39. John Lucas ranked third, Rudy Fernandez fourth and Raymond Felton fifth.

Jason Klotz, Ellis Myles and Deji Akindele finished at the bottom of the heap. Monta Ellis and Andrew Bogut also recorded terrible times of above 12 seconds.

In the ¾-court sprint, Will Bynum recorded the fastest time at 3 seconds. Joey Graham, Raymond Felton, Rashad McCants and John Lucas were also in the top five. Marvin Williams and Julius Hodge finished in the top 10.

Jason Klotz earns the awarded as the slowest guy in camp with a 3.68 seconds time. Ersan Ilyasova, Andrew Bogut, D'or Fischer and Torin Francis rounded out the five slowest guys in camp.

Here's a look at how 30 of the top draft prospects performed in each event. Note that several top prospects, including Fran Vazquez, Johan Petro, Nate Robinson, Ryan Gomes, Brandon Bass, Matt Walsh and Linas Kleiza, did not participate in the testing.


Numbers(bench, vertical, and so on) in next post.



Name, Bench press, vertical jump, Lane Agility, ¾-court sprint and Overall rank.


Joey Graham/26/36"/10.62/3.05/1
Rashad McCants/15/34½/10.39/3.11/3
Luther Head/14/38½"/11.12/3.21/7
Deron Williams/15/35"/10.83/3.25/10
David Lee/14/32½"/10.80/3.19/11
Marvin Williams/12/35"/11.11/3.17/15
Chris Paul/10/38½"/11.09/3.22/16
Raymond Felton/6/33½"/10.50/3.06/18
Ronny Turiaf/15/33"/11.50/3.23/21
Gerald Green/7/39"/11.2/3.21/24
Chris Taft/14/33"/11.26/3.27/25
Julius Hodge/14/29"/10.89/3.18/26
Sean May/12/33"/11.04/3.29/27
Danny Granger/10/34"/10.84/3.34/31
Channing Frye/19/31"/11.60/3.38/33
Dwayne Jones/15/31½"/11.87/3.25/38
Ike Diogu/21/31"/11.94/3.45/39
Charlie Villanueva/11/31"/10.86/3.3/42
Wayne Simien/11/27½"/11.05/3.35/49
Francisco Garcia/5/31½"/10.63/3.33/51
Jarrett Jack/5/28½"/10.87/3.24/54
Antoine Wright/12/29½"/11.45/3.41/55
Rudy Fernandez/0/35½"/10.48/3.33/56
Martell Webster/7/30½"/11.39/3.39/59
Andrew Bogut/13/33½"/12.06/3½1/60
Hakim Warrick/11/38"/N/A/3.22/61
Monta Ellis/0/31½"/12.13/3.31/70
Martynas Andriuskevicius/0/27½"/11.94/3.42/73
Ersan Ilyasova/2/30"/11.59/3½6/74

So who was helped and hurt by the testing?

WINNERS

Deron Williams -- Scouts have been questioning his quickness and athleticism all year. Now that he's lost some of that body fat, that no longer seems to be an issue. He's not as fast as Raymond Felton and doesn't jump as high as Chris Paul, but he's clearly in the same league athletically.

Joey Graham -- It doesn't come as a huge surprise that Graham came out on top. If you've seen him play much, you know he's an unbelievable athlete. Still, finishing on top of the heap should guarantee he gets selected in the lottery.

Will Bynum -- He was the last guy invited to Chicago and played extremely well, especially on the defensive end. A few scouts believe he might be a better prospect than Nate Robinson (the guy who tested as the top athlete in Chicago last year). I doubt he gets selected ahead of Nate, but he's definitely in the second-round mix now.

Rashad McCants -- There are still questions about his attitude, but it's rare to find such a great shooter who can also test off the charts athletically (just look at Martell Webster and Antoine Wright). Someone's going to ignore the baggage and take him in the late lottery to mid-first round.

Channing Frye -- He's stronger and more athletic than scouts have given him credit. The 19 reps on the bench press will turn a lot of heads.

David Lee -- Athletically, he tested as the top power forward in the draft. His lane agility scores are what really stand out. Lee has very quick feet, which will really help him defensively in the pros. Combine that with his strong play in Chicago and Lee seems like he's another step closer to securing a spot in the first round.

Marcin Gortat -- He had just a so-so camp, but he tested out as the most athletic center in the draft. He could be off the board in the first 10 picks of the second round if he decides to stay in the draft.

Sean May -- His numbers don't jump out at you, but he showed a better vertical jump and more agility than his main competition: Ike Diogu, Wayne Simien and Chris Taft. Maybe that will balance out the fact that he measured smaller than all of them.

LOSERS

Andrew Bogut -- He's been trying to dispel the "great white stiff" myth for the past few weeks. This doesn't help. While his vertical leap is actually above average for a guy his size, his lateral quickness and sprinting speed were just awful. That will hurt him defensively.

Wayne Simien -- Simien finished well below the other top big men in almost every area. Especially shocking is his lack of explosion jumping off one foot. His one-step vertical was only a half inch more than his standing vertical. That was, by far, the worst in the camp.

Antoine Wright -- Scouts have been warning that Wright looks more athletic than he actually is. At the combine, he was significantly below Francisco Garcia, a guy almost every scout in the league has knocked for his lack of athleticism. Had he not benched an impressive 12 reps, he would have landed close to the bottom. That's going to come back to haunt Wright.

Jarrett Jack -- He has great size and toughness, but athletically, he tested well behind most of the point guards in this draft. With Roko Ukic making a strong push, it could cause him to slip.

The High Schoolers -- Monta Ellis, Martell Webster and Brandon Rush all tested terribly. That's partly because of their age and partly because guys like Ellis and Rush might not have been training for these particular tests the way some players do.

We knew that Webster was just an average athlete but Ellis was a huge shock. For an undersized 2-guard to be successful in the League, he has to be long, quick and explosive. Ellis is none of the above. There's been talk that Minnesota is flirting with taking him at No. 14. It's pretty hard to justify that after seeing these numbers.

The Internationals -- They always struggle every year. With the exception of Gortat, they all were near the bottom of the heap. Most of them have never lifted weights before (which hurts their bench press numbers) and most are bigs lacking any real explosion or quickness.

Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.

Credit KBlaze888555 @ Insidehoops NBA Forum

[dirt_dobber]

Thanks Miles;

Always enjoy your posts as well....

(Also I really like the Devin Harris dunk in your sig. Where can I get a copy of that?)

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[Pongo]

A little off topic, but does anyone know the numbers that Devin put up last year? I'd bet he was the fastest in the 3/4-court-sprint [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

[Lebanese_Fan]

What about that vertical leap of his? He is pretty athletic.

[The Miles]

I can't find all the stats, but here are some from Devins class:

Pre-Draft Camp Combine Results
Name Bench Press 185lbs Max. Vertical Jump Lane Agility Test
Josh Childress 11 reps 36" 11.95 sec.
Luol Deng 5 reps 31.5" 11.46 sec.
Ben Gordon 12 reps 37.5" 11.28 sec
Devin Harris 5 reps 37" 11.03 sec
Dwight Howard 7 reps 35.5" 11.21 sec.
Kris Humphries 22 reps 36" 11.33 sec.
Andre Iguodala 4 reps 34.5" 11.17 sec.
Luke Jackson 13 reps 36" 11.1 sec.
Al Jefferson 3 reps 30" 13.08 sec.
Shaun Livingston 0 reps 30" 10.72 sec.
Jameer Nelson 15 reps 33.5" 10.95 sec.
Emeka Okafor 22 reps 34" 12.32 sec.
Peter John Ramos 2 reps 26.5" 12.61 sec.
J.R. Smith 5 reps 35.5" 10.93 sec.
Josh Smith 12 reps 39.5" 11.43 sec.
Kirk Snyder 19 reps 35" 10.79 sec.

[Five-ofan]

To be professional athletes the power guys dont bench very much. I can bench 185 32 times and im not an extreme weightlifter. Its amazing that the top guy on this list only does it 26 times.

[The Miles]

Damn, 32 times? I can only do it 24 times and I thought I was on to something.

How many times can you do 225?

[Five-ofan]

27. I have talked to coach leach about possibly walking on at Texas Tech doubt i will do it, but still its a possibility. Only problem is physically im probably suited to be a linebacker but I have been a center. Im 6-2 and weigh 245 with 9.5% body fat. Im a decent athlete run a 4.78 40. BTW The miles are you miles_berg from db.com?

[LRB]

Originally posted by: The Miles
I can't find all the stats, but here are some from Devins class:

Pre-Draft Camp Combine Results
Name Bench Press 185lbs Max. Vertical Jump Lane Agility Test
Josh Childress 11 reps 36" 11.95 sec.
Luol Deng 5 reps 31.5" 11.46 sec.
Ben Gordon 12 reps 37.5" 11.28 sec
Devin Harris 5 reps 37" 11.03 sec
Dwight Howard 7 reps 35.5" 11.21 sec.
Kris Humphries 22 reps 36" 11.33 sec.
Andre Iguodala 4 reps 34.5" 11.17 sec.
Luke Jackson 13 reps 36" 11.1 sec.
Al Jefferson 3 reps 30" 13.08 sec.
Shaun Livingston 0 reps 30" 10.72 sec.
Jameer Nelson 15 reps 33.5" 10.95 sec.
Emeka Okafor 22 reps 34" 12.32 sec.
Peter John Ramos 2 reps 26.5" 12.61 sec.
J.R. Smith 5 reps 35.5" 10.93 sec.
Josh Smith 12 reps 39.5" 11.43 sec.
Kirk Snyder 19 reps 35" 10.79 sec.

As thin as Devin is, I'm surprised that he could bench 185 5 times. I've seen decks of cards thicker than Devin.