Combined GDTs for this sh$#show - Page 23 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

EricaLubarsky · 03-20-2023, 11:24 PM

Some teams are 1 piece away from winning

This team is 7-13 pieces from winning

Melonhead · 03-20-2023, 11:35 PM

Kyrie in a walking boot

tap2390 · 03-21-2023, 12:42 AM

Kidd is hands down the worst coach I?ve ever seen. Not even hyperbole.

tap2390 · 03-21-2023, 12:54 AM

We are just one game behind in the loss column for the 9th worst record. It?s not too late to tank.

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-21-2023, 09:06 AM

Kidd said Hardy rolled his ankle and that's why he was taken out.

Unfortunately coach, you have lost the benefit of the doubt in these situations. Hardy had to force your hand into playing the minutes he did.

Melonhead · 03-21-2023, 09:48 AM

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Kidd said Hardy rolled his ankle and that's why he was taken out.

Unfortunately coach, you have lost the benefit of the doubt in these situations. Hardy had to force your hand into playing the minutes he did.

Yeah Im calling bullshit on that. He coupled the ankle roll with wanting to also get vets in the game and "we, myself and the other coaches" so he can deflect blame on them as well.

saclare · 03-21-2023, 11:11 AM

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Yeah Im calling bullshit on that. He coupled the ankle roll with wanting to also get vets in the game and "we, myself and the other coaches" so he can deflect blame on them as well.

Hardy was clearly bothered by it. He mustered another drive and layup and winced the whole way down. No issue at all in taking him out there.

The issue lies with why it took so long to get him back in. Then not using timeouts to help stunt runs, get guys a breather, slow it down so the team has a better chance at showing poise in that situation.

SMC0007 · 03-21-2023, 11:24 AM

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Yeah Im calling bullshit on that. He coupled the ankle roll with wanting to also get vets in the game and "we, myself and the other coaches" so he can deflect blame on them as well.

100%

Melonhead · 03-21-2023, 09:50 AM

You got to get another coach in here that knows wtf they are doing, Hardy and Green could be sooooo much further along at this point in the season.

EricaLubarsky · 03-21-2023, 10:46 AM

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You got to get another coach in here that knows wtf they are doing, Hardy and Green could be sooooo much further along at this point in the season.

I honestly wonder if we trade Luka and SnT Kyrie.

Get some nice young talent + some picks and/or salary dump of THJ/Bertans

Build the team around Green and Hardy but with some decent bigs.

That team might actually have a future.

SMC0007 · 03-21-2023, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I honestly wonder if we trade Luka and SnT Kyrie.

Get some nice young talent + some picks and/or salary dump of THJ/Bertans

Build the team around Green and Hardy but with some decent bigs.

That team might actually have a future.

All pointless with Kidd.

He'd roll out a SLU of:

Frank
Bullock
THJ
Maxi
DP

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-21-2023, 11:31 AM

I'd also like to point out that Wood and Bertans played together for a long stretch.

This is why we have a coaching problem above all else.

And his post game quotes are just SNL sketches at this point.

https://twitter.com/Mavs_FFL/status/1638213097616809985

Dallas41 · 03-22-2023, 12:07 AM

Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse

The damn OKC Thunder have passed the mavs

How in the hell is it possible that a team with Luka Doncic coming off a WCF'S appearance would be surpassed by OKC

tap2390 · 03-22-2023, 06:41 AM

Their superstar has bought in, remained healthy, takes his conditioning seriously, takes defense seriously, and moves the ball.

washedklean77 · 03-22-2023, 09:09 AM

The ESPN Power Rankings always blow my mind (Mavs #14) as they give the Mavs entirely too much respect. They obviously don't watch the games and subscribe to the reality of the team.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...retch-run-west

Melonhead · 03-22-2023, 09:57 AM

OKC has a brighter future than the Mavs, who tore it down with KD/Westbrook and are most likely going to finish with a higher seed (easiest remaining schedule)

EricaLubarsky · 03-22-2023, 10:24 AM

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OKC has a brighter future than the Mavs, who tore it down with KD/Westbrook and are most likely going to finish with a higher seed (easiest remaining schedule)

It's almost like selling high when the future isn't there is a good call.

We can either let it explode and end up in the lottery with no picks or we can be proactive like the Celtics and Thunder.

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-22-2023, 10:56 AM

Treadmill of mediocrity.

SMC0007 · 03-22-2023, 11:09 AM

Cuban is not a tear it down guy. He's a snake oil sales man. Patch the holes on the ship and drive further out to sea

tap2390 · 03-22-2023, 11:25 AM

If we didn?t trade for Kyrie, I would agree we need a complete rebuild. As it stands, we have a very good chance to contend next season, but we must:

1) fire Kidd

2) get a big (Naz Reid)

3) consider tanking to keep our pick (the value of a top ten pick who?s on a rookie scale contract and then a RFA is through the roof)

SMC0007 · 03-22-2023, 12:46 PM

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If we didn?t trade for Kyrie, I would agree we need a complete rebuild. As it stands, we have a very good chance to contend next season, but we must:

1) fire Kidd

2) get a big (Naz Reid)

3) consider tanking to keep our pick (the value of a top ten pick who?s on a rookie scale contract and then a RFA is through the roof)

I'd be looking at how I'm going to replace Kyrie and Wood this offseason.

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-22-2023, 12:59 PM

Luka playing tonight.

Kidd can now rest easy giving Hardy a DNP.

EricaLubarsky · 03-22-2023, 01:47 PM

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Luka playing tonight.

Kidd can now rest easy giving Hardy a DNP.

He'll have good reason not to play Hardy as we cruise to a 20pt 3rd quarter lead

Then after we lose, he will say that he played his best guys and taking a timeout is offensive because it shows distrust in the players. We shrug and nothing happens.

At least a loss gets a a sliver of a chance at keeping that draft pick.

SMC0007 · 03-22-2023, 11:24 AM

I recall saying we might miss the playoffs early this season, but more likely play-in team. JKidd is a key factor in that.

We lose tonight and we are in bad shape. Which is why we needed to close out the 16pt lead vs Grizz. We are steady becoming more and more reliant upon other teams losing. Backing into a play in game is pretty much where I thought we would be after Kidd and FO went off the rails this offseason. Maybe we forgot about Frank. Maybe we didn't start McGee long enough. OR. Maybe we should have started Wood, played Green and Hardy more and stopped yanking these guys around. Maybe it was also Bullock having an abysmal half a season and relying on him way too much. Idk, it seemed obvious but Kidds ego was one of our biggest obstacles.

saclare · 03-22-2023, 11:58 AM

Luka upgraded to probable for tonight.

As for the future, it all starts with Kyrie. I'd love him back, to be honest. It's either re-sign him or you better work a sign and trade to recoup some assets.

ShaggyDirk · 03-22-2023, 02:33 PM

In my opinion, and I hate to harp on this or beat a dead horse... One issue is Luka's unwillingness to stop complaining to the officials and help his teammates play defense. Extremely immature and shows no signs of comprising to shut the f up. Another issue is his conditioning that has completely taken him out of goat status much less the MVP race. If only one of these two issues was resolved or never arose this year, I don't think we are crying for Kidd to be fired.

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-22-2023, 03:18 PM

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In my opinion, and I hate to harp on this or beat a dead horse... One issue is Luka's unwillingness to stop complaining to the officials and help his teammates play defense. Extremely immature and shows no signs of comprising to shut the f up. Another issue is his conditioning that has completely taken him out of goat status much less the MVP race. If only one of these two issues was resolved or never arose this year, I don't think we are crying for Kidd to be fired.

On the ole social bird, someone mentioned on Tim Cato's podcast that Luka's extended absence was as much to do with his conditioning as anything.

Not really sure I buy it though. Luka not playing doesn't generally get him into shape.

And yes, Luka needs to stop thinking the league is out to get him. Refs are shit and get back on defense.

Dallas41 · 03-22-2023, 03:40 PM

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On the ole social bird, someone mentioned on Tim Cato's podcast that Luka's extended absence was as much to do with his conditioning as anything.

Not really sure I buy it though. Luka not playing doesn't generally get him into shape.

And yes, Luka needs to stop thinking the league is out to get him. Refs are shit and get back on defense.

The fact that we are still talking about luka's conditioning and committ to it after 5 years now is ridiculous

JJ Barea mentioned this about Luka his rookie year

Said Luka needed to take it more seriius and we still talking about it 4 years later

SMC0007 · 03-22-2023, 04:45 PM

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In my opinion, and I hate to harp on this or beat a dead horse... One issue is Luka's unwillingness to stop complaining to the officials and help his teammates play defense. Extremely immature and shows no signs of comprising to shut the f up. Another issue is his conditioning that has completely taken him out of goat status much less the MVP race. If only one of these two issues was resolved or never arose this year, I don't think we are crying for Kidd to be fired.

Those 2 things about Luka suck. No doubt. But the problem with Kidd is his dumbass decisions. Ok'ing the McGee start to get him here. C. WOOD a bench guy from day 1. We forgot about Frank quote. Last but not least is thr severely botch rotations and lineups.

Melonhead · 03-22-2023, 06:51 PM

Bruh Powell wtf blown two great passes by Luka

Melonhead · 03-22-2023, 06:54 PM

Luka still looks hobbled smh

They lose tonight, shut it down

Melonhead · 03-22-2023, 06:58 PM

Holiday in before Hardy???? Fuck Kidd

Melonhead · 03-22-2023, 07:04 PM

Ngl I?m starting to dislike Luka. I hate that I feel this way.

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-22-2023, 07:06 PM

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Ngl I?m starting to dislike Luka. I hate that I feel this way.

Luka for Markannen/Kessler.

FreshJive · 03-22-2023, 07:46 PM

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Luka for Markannen/Kessler.

this place is a dumpster fire

SMC0007 · 03-22-2023, 08:07 PM

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this place is a dumpster fire

Haha. It can be when it's heat of the moment.

FreshJive · 03-22-2023, 10:12 PM

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Haha. It can be when it's heat of the moment.

I get it.

Dallas41 · 03-22-2023, 08:08 PM

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this place is a dumpster fire

No one truly wants to trade Luka but the FO is incompetent at putting pieces around him.

Look at the buy low trade by Detroit to obtain Wiseman

Now he's producing in a system that fits him better

The mavs FO probably never even considered a guy like Wiseman to fill the big man hole on this team

FreshJive · 03-22-2023, 10:15 PM

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No one truly wants to trade Luka but the FO is incompetent at putting pieces around him.

Look at the buy low trade by Detroit to obtain Wiseman

Now he's producing in a system that fits him better

The mavs FO probably never even considered a guy like Wiseman to fill the big man hole on this team

I don?t see how trading Luka fixes this.

Melonhead · 03-22-2023, 07:10 PM

Thank god they didn?t make Luka play the full quarter.