04-13-2011, 12:22 PM
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Kobe Bryant appeared to yell gay slur at official
http://eye-on-basketball.blogs.cbssp...48484/28494903
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We've all sort of gotten a crash course reminder this season that NBA players aren't angel. That they kind of have potty mouths and say bad things. There was the whole Kevin Garnett - Charlie Villanueva thing, for example.
The latest comes from Kobe Bryant who after going to the bench following his 15th technical foul of the season, yelled out what appeared to be an offensive homophobic remark.
As you can see, Bryant yells out "Bennie!" which is directed at official Bennie Adams, and then says "F-word [gay slur]." I'm not a lip reader and I didn't hear it, but I think we can all agree that's what it appears to be. I suppose he could've said, "Philly Phanatic" but I'm thinking he didn't go that direction.
TNT announcer Steve Kerr saw it and immediately knew what was going on, remarking, "He's yelling at Bennie. You might want to take the camera off him for the children watching at home."
TMZ.com obtained a statement made by the Lakers on the matter which said, "The Lakers can not confirm that is what Kobe said or not." The NBA said the incident was "under review." So we'll have to wait and see what that means.
I don't know how to entirely comment on this, other than to say it was a very bad thing for Kobe to yell, even in anger. I'm not entirely comfortable even writing about it because I like basketball and this isn't basketball. It's one of those things that if you step wrong around it, you slip on the banana peel and get yourself in trouble.
But here's the thing: We only know about this because the camera caught him do it. I'm sure this isn't the first time Kobe has said something like this nor do I think he's the ONLY player to have ever said something bad like this. He just had the misfortune of the camera being right on his face when he blurted it out.
We went over this with the Garnett - Villaneuva situation and pretty much all agreed: What's said on the court stays on the court. Problem with that, at least for the players, is that microphones tend to work very well, cameras catch everything and fans sit very near the action. You can't stay innocent for long nowadays.
And I'm not entirely sure it's fair to hold players like Bryant to a higher standard with things like this. Again, it was a horrible thing for him to say. He shouldn't have said it. But we've all said dumb, offensive things. Lucky for most of us, there wasn't a camera pointed in our face when we did it. Then again, we're not Kobe Bryant. It's honestly kind of a weird situation.
Reality is, the culture of professional sports has also been a masochistic society where things like being gay is seen as a gross, bad thing. The culture just breeds language like that. That's locker room talk and that's a word that's used probably daily in there. Plus, Kobe has never been shy about dropping an f-bomb in interviews. He's always been somewhat crass and controversial. This time, he just sort of took it to a level that actually would offend some people.
I'm sure Kobe doesn't actually hate gay people. I'm sure he doesn't say that word to express hatred of gay people. I'm assuming here -- which I recognize is dangerous -- that Kobe just sort of has that word as part of his language to toss out in situations like this without really thinking about what it means.
I'm sure he'll be asked about it today and he'll either deny saying it or apologize. Maybe this is a lesson learned for all professional athletes that have cameras hovering around them everywhere they go: Watch what you say.
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04-13-2011, 12:32 PM
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Why is this a news story? What about all of those guys who scream the "N-Word" during the game? Does it happen so much that its become accepted?
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04-13-2011, 12:38 PM
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idk league officials are reviewing it he will probably get a small fine
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04-13-2011, 12:48 PM
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Bennie should've called Kobe a rapist...
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04-13-2011, 02:43 PM
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I saw it live and thought it was pretty offensive. Kobe is usually pretty calculated... big slip up there.
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04-13-2011, 03:15 PM
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Meh
I dislike kobe as much as the next guy..but who cares?
Last edited by Murphy3; 04-13-2011 at 03:17 PM.
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04-13-2011, 03:18 PM
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04-13-2011, 03:54 PM
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So what did he say? Qucking Feer?
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04-13-2011, 04:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest
Why is this a news story? What about all of those guys who scream the "N-Word" during the game? Does it happen so much that its become accepted?
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You can't control what fans do. I don't think any PLAYER has called a ref a N****. And if they did, I guarantee it would be a far bigger deal than this.
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04-13-2011, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CadBane
You can't control what fans do. I don't think any PLAYER has called a ref a N****. And if they did, I guarantee it would be a far bigger deal than this.
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I think he meant the players who yell it on the court at each other.
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04-13-2011, 05:01 PM
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@WojYahooNBA:
The NBA fined Kobe Bryant 100K for slur on referee.
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04-13-2011, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CadBane
You can't control what fans do. I don't think any PLAYER has called a ref a N****. And if they did, I guarantee it would be a far bigger deal than this.
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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one
I think he meant the players who yell it on the court at each other.
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Yea that's exactly what i'm referring to. I mean I understand that these guys are in the heat of the battle and have bigger things on their mind then censoring themselves. But the first time a gay slur is said, now everyone wants to tone down what the players say?
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@WojYahooNBA:
The NBA fined Kobe Bryant 100K for slur on referee.
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Wow. Just wow. They're trying to make a example out of him.
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04-13-2011, 06:05 PM
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Can you imagine the backlash the NBA could receive from the LGBT community if they didn't react to this? They are just covering their own butts here since it got obviously caught on tape.
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04-13-2011, 09:15 PM
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I have to say, I'm incredibly offended. The Lakers as an organization should be fined one playoff seed as a penalty.
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04-13-2011, 10:13 PM
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Of course he got fined. You can't call a ref that.
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04-13-2011, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest
Yea that's exactly what i'm referring to. I mean I understand that these guys are in the heat of the battle and have bigger things on their mind then censoring themselves. But the first time a gay slur is said, now everyone wants to tone down what the players say?
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Saying that to a ref is not the same thing as saying it to a player. I assure you, if you call a ref an N, you're going to get fined.
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04-13-2011, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jthig32
Saying that to a ref is not the same thing as saying it to a player. I assure you, if you call a ref an N, you're going to get fined.
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This.
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04-13-2011, 10:28 PM
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No need to be a hypocrite, Kobe.
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04-13-2011, 11:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jthig32
Saying that to a ref is not the same thing as saying it to a player. I assure you, if you call a ref an N, you're going to get fined.
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So if Kobe called another player a homophobic slur you don't think he would've been fined had it been caught on camera? I thought the fine came from the fact that it was actually on video rather than who he said it to?
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04-14-2011, 12:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest
So if Kobe called another player a homophobic slur you don't think he would've been fined had it been caught on camera? I thought the fine came from the fact that it was actually on video rather than who he said it to?
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No, he wouldn't have.
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04-14-2011, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CadBane
No, he wouldn't have.
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True that. Can't have the help getting out of line.
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