Official: Rondo to Dallas!!

[tap2390]

Update: 10:10 p.m. central, I'm still stoked as sh*t. Watching Rondo highlights is making me really anxious to see him play. SMH can't believe some people think we're worse off or gave up too much. Here's some recent stuff:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNpBYxUS-Gw

vs. Thunder on Nov. 12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OJ6TlPhl3U

vs. Raptors on Nov. 5



obviously highlights only show the good, but his craftiness and vision is on another level.

[Cerberus]

When's the earliest he can play? Has to be Atlanta right? I want him to play against the Spurs so bad haha

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwrdMZnvK1w
Some of the most supernatural passes I've ever seen. Some don't even look real.

#4 is pretty damn wow. Don't remember seeing that one before.

[mavsfan1000]

Worst guard shooting ever. Spacing the floor is huge for guards. Bye bye Mr. Automatic from the field. Bench just got much weaker.

[Five-ofan]

Originally Posted by ffballer

i gotta say it, im a die hard mavs fan, but when kg rondo and pierce played together i loved it, especially kg and rondo, im a big fan of them both, just cuz this dudes have one big pair of balls and don't give a f*uck but just winning, thats why i love so much this trade, i think this is the best christmas gift for me right now lol
ps... imagine if we could get kg... i'd seriously kiss mark cuban on the mouth

Completely off topic but I'm not sure there's ever been a bigger bitch in nba history than kg. absolutely amazing player but just a huge bitch

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

Worst guard shooting ever. Spacing the floor is huge for guards. Bye bye Mr. Automatic from the field. Bench just got much weaker.

Really?

We lost Nelson who was one of our worst +/- guys and replaced him with an allstar, and 2-time NBA defensive first team

Crowder who I loved, but never played

Wright, who I loved, but couldn't play well against bigs in the West. Wright will be the only guy the team will miss as a player. Crowder will be missed because of his personality more than what he would have contributed.

[ActionJackson]

So exciting. I'm supposed to go to bed, it's almost 6 am here, but I just can't. Just reading all the comments and articles. I think it's a great deal. I liked both Wright and Jae, but this had to be done.

I already wonder about next season. Hopefully the same squad. I hope they can work it out in the summer.

[BGMaverick9]

http://www.mavsoutsider.com/2014/12/...icks-analysis/

[mavsfan1000]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Really?

We lost Nelson who was one of our worst +/- guys and replaced him with an allstar, and 2-time NBA defensive first team

Crowder who I loved, but never played

Wright, who I loved, but couldn't play well against bigs in the West. Wright will be the only guy the team will miss as a player. Crowder will be missed because of his personality more than what he would have contributed.

Regardless of what Nelson lacked, he still was a 3 point threat. With Rondo, you are playing 4 on 5. Thus Dirk will see more double teams. The spacing on the floor changes. Offense was never our problem. And based on recent years, Rondo's defensive stats have not been good. Wright was the best backup center in the league. Pin pointing a couple bad games to determine he can't play against the best is ridiculous. And having no backup center spells doom. Chandler isn't young anymore. He needs his 16-20 minutes of rest.

[Five-ofan]

Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

Regardless of what Nelson lacked, he still was a 3 point threat. With Rondo, you are playing 4 on 5. Thus Dirk will see more double teams. The spacing on the floor changes. Offense was never our problem. And based on recent years, Rondo's defensive stats have not been good. Wright was the best backup center in the league. Pin pointing a couple bad games to determine he can't play against the best is ridiculous. And having no backup center spells doom. Chandler isn't young anymore. He needs his 16-20 minutes of rest.

Nelson was the worst pg in the nba. By a lot.

[mavsfan1000]

Originally Posted by Five-ofan

Nelson was the worst pg in the nba. By a lot.

I liked how he ran our offense. Give him credit for that at least.

[tap2390]

Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

I liked how he ran our offense. Give him credit for that at least.

You're right he dribbled past half court and passed the ball to Monta really well.

[howdoesmydirktaste]

Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

I liked how he ran our offense. Give him credit for that at least.

No. Good riddance.

[howdoesmydirktaste]

Originally Posted by tap2390

You're right he dribbled past half court and passed the ball to Monta really well.

I was going to say that he watched Monta run the offense, but you basically said the same thing.

[Cerberus]

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwrdMZnvK1w
Some of the most supernatural passes I've ever seen. Some don't even look real.

That last one

[Murphy3]

Let's be honest, Rondo needs to be better than he has been the past couple of years for this to work. His defense is down and he can't shoot.

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

I liked how he ran our offense. Give him credit for that at least.

I am puzzled by this comment.

[EricaLubarsky]

@tim_cato: After Dirk, the longest tenured Maverick is now Ricky Ledo. He was drafted on June 27, 2013.

Whoa.

[howdoesmydirktaste]

Originally Posted by Murphy3

Let's be honest, Rondo needs to be better than he has been the past couple of years for this to work. His defense is down and he can't shoot.

Ok. Let's be honest here, without this trade the Mavs would be the #6 or #7 team in the West and get bounced in the first round. There's no guarantee that the Rondo thing is going to work this year (or at all), but Dirk didn't take a pay cut to be part of a #6 or #7 team.

Rondo hasn't had jack to play for and the Celtics franchise put nothing around him. This reminds me of Ellis playing for the Bucks. Let's see what Rondo does in this system, with this cast, this owner and this coach.

If we were sitting at #1 or #2 in the west and we were 5-0 against the top 8 teams, then maybe I'd be nervous about this move. Truth is that we are #6 and 0-5 against the best in the west. That makes me nervous. We did something about it. If it doesn't work out then oh well. It's a risk worth taking. Cuban owes it to Dirk.

If it works out, the only ones that will be nervous are the people that have to play against us.

[mavsfan1000]

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

I am puzzled by this comment.

We were scoring a ton a game. And he was unselfish. His role was to be a spot up shooter. And he did that. The other players in the starting lineup demand many touches. Thus his role was to give them the ball and spot up. Not sure how that would work with someone as poor of a shooter as Rondo.

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Whoa.

Like i said, just look at the 12-13 roster...its absolutly amazing. And we even absolutly blew our draft picks the past two years too

[Murphy3]

Originally Posted by howdoesmydirktaste

Ok. Let's be honest here, without this trade the Mavs would be the #6 or #7 team in the West and get bounced in the first round. There's no guarantee that the Rondo thing is going to work this year (or at all), but Dirk didn't take a pay cut to be part of a #6 or #7 team.

Rondo hasn't had jack to play for and the Celtics franchise put nothing around him. This reminds me of Ellis playing for the Bucks. Let's see what Rondo does in this system, with this cast, this owner and this coach.

If we were sitting at #1 or #2 in the west and we were 5-0 against the top 8 teams, then maybe I'd be nervous about this move. Truth is that we are #6 and 0-5 against the best in the west. That makes me nervous. We did something about it. If it doesn't work out then oh well. It's a risk worth taking. Cuban owes it to Dirk.

If it works out, the only ones that will be nervous are the people that have to play against us.

I'm not saying that he won't be better ... Just saying that he has to be better for this to work out.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

We were scoring a ton a game. And he was unselfish. His role was to be a spot up shooter. And he did that. The other players in the starting lineup demand many touches. Thus his role was to give them the ball and spot up. Not sure how that would work with someone as poor of a shooter as Rondo.

We're still going to score a ton and Rondo is as unselfish as they get. He might be the only guy in the league who has more assists than shot attempts.

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

We were scoring a ton a game.

No thanks to Jameer.

And he was unselfish.

He pressed way too much in his time out there.

His role was to be a spot up shooter.

Cause he sucked at everything else.

And he did that.

To the broken tune of 50% true shooting.

The other players in the starting lineup demand many touches.

Which made sense, seeing as how they're better than Jameer with the ball in their hands.

Thus his role was to give them the ball and spot up.

Which isn't really what I would call running the team.

Not sure how that would work with someone as poor of a shooter as Rondo.

One of a number of reasons that Rondo is unlikely to be assigned the task of simply giving the other guys the ball and waiting around to spot up.

[buddha08]

I've read a lot of Rondo hate in the wake of this trade, especially in regard to his free throw % and 3 pt %. I can't forget what he did to get the Celtics to two championship games--the same Dirk has gotten to, with the same result--he won one and lost one. He actually is a champion, revered by Celtics fans in much the same way Dirk is revered by Mavs fans. If you have watched him play, you know he has the heart of a champion. That's important. Do you remember Kidd making it to the finals twice as a Net and losing? Obviously that was before the Mavs. Anyone can recognize, though, that Nets wouldn't have made it that far without his leadership. None doubted Kidd's drive and potential before he finally won a championship with the Mavs. Rondo has a "je ne sais quoi". It's what is commonly called an "intangible" in sports. You know it's there. Rondo is a "floor general" in the right way at both ends of the court. He makes his "team" better by his decision making, his effort, and leadership. Put it this way, regardless of record, who would you rather have on the floor with 2 minutes left in a playoff game, Rondo, or any combination of Wright, Crowder, or Nelson? I predict we will all watch in awe not a few playoff games where Rondo's impact is written all over the court.

[spreedom]

Originally Posted by iggymcfly

What a gross overpay. We just gave Boston twice Rondo's market value despite him being a terrible fit. Feel sick to my stomach.

[mavsfan1000]

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

No thanks to Jameer.

He pressed way too much in his time out there.

Cause he sucked at everything else.

To the broken tune of 50% true shooting.

Which made sense, seeing as how they're better than Jameer with the ball in their hands.

Which isn't really what I would call running the team.

One of a number of reasons that Rondo is unlikely to be assigned the task of simply giving the other guys the ball and waiting around to spot up.

Well Parsons and Ellis hope he isn't dominating the ball too much. They don't want to be spot up shooters. They want to be the playmakers.

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

Well Parsons and Ellis hope he isn't dominating the ball too much. They don't want to be spot up shooters. They want to be the playmakers.

Perhaps you didn't catch Parsons comments on the trade from the interview he gave today. He didn't come off as particularly concerned about that.

[mavsfan1000]

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Perhaps you didn't catch Parsons comments on the trade from the interview he gave today. He didn't come off as particularly concerned about that.

Parsons has already mentioned that he is better as a playmaker than a spot up shooter. Mainly because he can see over defenses with his height. Of course he will support the trade. He has to.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by tap2390

You're right he dribbled past half court and passed the ball to Monta really well.

The is my nominee for Post of the Year.

[buddha08]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Rondo also has attitude. This video shows some immaturity, but the Heat stuff is pretty awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM3Vzd_DAO0

I love me some Van Exel, DeShawn Stevenson, Stackhouse, and Jet....

[grndmstr_c]

Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

Parsons has already mentioned that he is better as a playmaker than a spot up shooter. Mainly because he can see over defenses with his height. Of course he will support the trade. He has to.

So, no, I guess you didn't see his comments.

Anyway, Parsons won't be asked to be a simple spot-up shooter any more than Jameer was asked to run the team. CP's off-ball movement will probably become a more important component in his recipe for success, but he's a good cutter and Dallas just acquired the best passer in the game, so I for one am looking forward to it. Certainly playing that way won't preclude Parsons from doing what he does best when he does have the ball in his hands. Same goes for Monta. These guys aren't ball-hogging iso players. They're versatile, intelligent basketball players who've demonstrated an ability to thrive in Dallas' system playing off the skill and the attention that their highly capable teammates command. I fully expect that to continue.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Perhaps you didn't catch Parsons comments on the trade from the interview he gave today. He didn't come off as particularly concerned about that.

They all trust rick to get it straight or burn rondo to the ground if need be.

[mavsfan1000]

Alright I'm on board. Should be some interesting games coming up.

[41mvp]

Couple months ago I said that Donnine Nelson is a pice of sh!it. Now I would like to sorry for my harsh words. Rondo deal shows that this guy knows how to do the business. I am very happy that Rajan Rondo is now part of ours team. Of course the Dallas Mavericks is not a contender team yet but we are close. With Rondo this team will be better . The one and only guy i will miss is Brandon Wright . It is sad that he left us.

Rondo,Ellis,Parsons,Dirk,Chandler it is impress starting five. WOW

Go Mavs!

[j0Shi]

There is really not much to dislike here.

I hate seeing Wright/Crowder go, but even though our bench got much weaker, the upgrade Rondo provides on both ends of the floor far outweighs that. I was kinda wondering why we brought in that many PGs before the season, maybe they anticipated/planned this move.

[Thespiralgoeson]

The more I think about this deal, the more I'm amazed how some people see this as some huge risk for the Mavs. For a major upgrade at our weakest position, this is about the lowest risk move I can think of. Even if Rondo completely flops, it's not like we're stuck with him. We just let him walk in the offseason and with the money we save we can chase whoever else we want. Worst cast scenario, we're right back where we were before the trade anyway, at least as far as PG is concerned. And we weren't legit title contenders anyway, so what do we really have to lose here?

Losing Wright is a bummer, but let's not act like he's the difference between being a championship contender and not being one. And we're in "win now" mode, draft picks really don't do us any good. The only major downside I see here is that if Rondo doesn't pan out, we don't have much to work with in the way of trade assets, but such is the case with pretty much any major trade. Throw in the added possibility that we may re-acquire Wright in the offseason, and it becomes clear that the Mavs are taking pretty minimal risks here.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by j0Shi

There is really not much to dislike here.

I hate seeing Wright/Crowder go, but even though our bench got much weaker, the upgrade Rondo provides on both ends of the floor far outweighs that. I was kinda wondering why we brought in that many PGs before the season, maybe they anticipated/planned this move.

I don't know if they were specifically anticipating this move, but they had to be anticipating making a move for a starting PG, and Rondo was almost at or near the top their list of potential targets.

[G-Man]

I liked Jae's defense, but we can get that from Aminu, who also has better skills on the break. I like Wright, but did you notice how, when we play the top teams, they defend the lobs and easy buckets he gets against lesser teams? I think he had 4 points in the loss to Miami and 7 against Golden State. Come playoff time, we couldn't count on his scoring. I expect he'll clean up against the weak sisters of the East.

I had high hopes for Nelson, and in the last few games, he'd started to dribble less and hit a few more 3's. But he was not an asset on either end of the court.

With Rondo, I expect the offense to run more smoothly. He won't be looking for his shot, so no more wasted possessions where Nelson dribbles around then hoists a three. I expect him to come in here inspired, happy to get out of that mess in Massachusetts. I expect him get the ball to Dirk where he wants it, and to play harder on a team that has a chance to win every night. And even if his defense is only 75% of what it once was, that's probably double what we get from any guard not named Harris.

I expect a lot. Can't wait to see what we'll get.