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Old 07-06-2013, 07:31 PM   #41
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Calderon: 61.6 TS % (1st)
Harris: 56.5 % TS (13th)
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Old 07-06-2013, 07:33 PM   #42
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If a trade is brewing two choices come to mind...Okafor and Mcgee
you are out of your mind. McGee is staying in Denver they trade koufus for him to start and okafor is overpaid
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Old 07-06-2013, 07:36 PM   #43
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Per http://82games.com , Devin Harris split time evenly between PG and SG last season. Hawks +20 with him at PG, +133 with him at SG.
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Old 07-06-2013, 07:38 PM   #44
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Three years, $9M+ is solid value for Devin Harris (per the great @ESPNSteinLine). Not sure what Mavs are building, but that's a good deal.
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Nice value, and he should provide a good complement to calderon.
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Nice signing. Versatile and good defender. Can still get to the rim. And it seems like he wanted to be here.
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Thank you Devin for not making me look stupid anymore...

Oh wait, you probably won't start, but hey, it's all good.
HA! - you were the first guy I thought of after hearing about this.

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At this rate, we can expect to see J.J. Barea back in a Mavs uni in about three or four years.
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Really curious what Devin Harris gets in this market, by the way. I'd rather have him than Jack.
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you are out of your mind. McGee is staying in Denver they trade koufus for him to start and okafor is overpaid
You don't understand how it works:

Cubes needs a Center...Okafor a top 20 center in the league
Cubes like his powder very dry....Okafor a huge 14 M expiring
and Okafor brings the type of Center that could work well with Dirk a defensive minded good rebounder one, additionally Okafor has the super motivation to do well:

1. He was the 2nd pick after DHoward
2. He is from Houston
3. He is in a contract year

and did I mention one of the best trading partners in the last 10 years...The Wizards formerly known as the Bullets
Case closed

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You folks complaining about this need to chill at least until you see what the remaining moves are.
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You don't understand how it works:

Cubes needs a Center...Okafor a top 20 center in the league
Cubes like his powder very dry....Okafor a huge 14 M expiring
and Okafor brings the type of Center that could work well with Dirk a defensive minded good rebounder one, additionally Okafor has the super motivation to do well:

1. He was the 2nd pick after DHoward
2. He is from Houston
3. He is in a contract year

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Wouldnt mind Okafor but Bullets drafted Porter and re-signed Webster and still have Ariza. Not sure they want Shawn. Also they're trying to make a playoff push and are pretty thin upfront
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Nice signing, i prefer going undersized at the two rather than signing one of the remaining FA SG's, because the only SG who i like is Henderson and he 's a RFA.
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Would be nice to find a way to squeeze Bynum into this line up

PG. Calderon
SG. Harris
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PF. Nowitzki
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Nice signing, i prefer going undersized at the two rather than signing one of the remaining FA SG's, because the only SG who i like is Henderson and he 's a RFA.
I like Henderson too. Charlotte would probably match unless we seriously overpaid him. I think signing Devin is a nice under the radar move
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Okay I'm scratching my head on this one. I like Devin though so I guess I approve.
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If a trade is brewing two choices come to mind...Okafor and Mcgee
Would not mind McGee even though he is an idiot.
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Mcgee i'd definitely be eyeing now.
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Big fan of this signing. I would probably start Vince now and have Devin as the first guard off the bench. If he can come in and aggressively attack the paint, we'd be in business offensively.
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Great value for a solid contributor. He can play two positions well, can start in a pinch, and give you a change of pace off the bench. Carlisle has thrived with a diverse lineup. And filling it out with very solid payers like Harris fits right into what Rick does best.

I'm hoping that Ledo gets plenty of burn at the SG. And I think his game would actually work well in a lineup where Harris is running the point for draw and kick opportunities off the bench. That could add some nice reserve scoring punch.
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I'm all in with Devin's return. My only knock on him is his durability. Still grateful for the job he did on San Antonio in the first push to the finals.
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I'm hoping that Ledo gets plenty of burn at the SG. And I think his game would actually work well in a lineup where Harris is running the point for draw and kick opportunities off the bench. That could add some nice reserve scoring punch.
I wouldn't count on Ledo getting next to any burn this season... much less "plenty".
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I wouldn't count on Ledo getting next to any burn this season... much less "plenty".

I'd be shocked if Ledo even gets out of the DLeague during his rookie year.
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I'm curious as to what other moves are in place. This is a very value type signing...we need a center though. Trade? Bynum? Cap space running out...

I think Harris slots in best as a SG in this signing...I think we have to just sit back and let this all play out before making any particular judgments...
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I wouldn't count on Ledo getting next to any burn this season... much less "plenty".
That's why I used "hoping" instead of "predicting". I "hope" that he gets "plenty" of burn because I don't see too many swingmen on the current roster who can create their own shots, handle the ball well, score from anywhere, and use both hands to finish near the basket. He "could" give a nice scoring punch off the bench.
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I get that ppl are confused that we are loading up on PGs, but I like that we're collecting some assets on valueable contracts. 3M per is really nice although I'd like to more youth in the rotation.
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That's why I used "hoping" instead of "predicting". I "hope" that he gets "plenty" of burn because I don't see too many swingmen on the current roster who can create their own shots, handle the ball well, score from anywhere, and use both hands to finish near the basket. He "could" give a nice scoring punch off the bench.
Carlisle hates to play young players so I can see him in the D-League all season.
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I'm hoping that Ledo gets plenty of burn at the SG. And I think his game would actually work well in a lineup where Harris is running the point for draw and kick opportunities off the bench. That could add some nice reserve scoring punch.
Lets keep an eye on him in the summer league and pre-season first. Who knows how he'll pan out.
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That line is so worn out - 2 of our 3 rookies last year started multiple games.
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I don't think it takes "hate for young players" to make someone believe a guy that didn't play one minute of college might need a full season of prep in the DLeague.
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I don't think it takes "hate for young players" to make someone believe a guy that didn't play one minute of college might need a full season of prep in the DLeague.
I wonder if it would be better to spend a year in college or the D league to develop? I know college is out of the question at this point but I'm just curious. I'd tend to think college as its more about the team but then again D league would be against superior talent..
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Why do people keep bringing up Mcgee and Okafor in this thread??? McGee is staying in Denver (the firing of George Karl confirmed as much) and Okafor?? lol

Personally i see the Mavs trading for a 2 guard after they wrap Bynum up.
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I don't have a problem with Okafor
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I wouldn't have mind Okafor 5 years ago.

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Me either but hard to make it work with his salary. Wont have a problem with signing him next offseason to a short contract...
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Absolutely sefant..but some act as if he's dogsh*t... just saying that I have no problem with that guy on my team...
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:00 PM   #77
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Or not :/
Stein reports Harris has an injured toe, he and Mavs scrap plans on deal.....

We lose Harris and Larkin(for a bit) in one day....

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Have a link? If the deal is "scrapped", the injury must be serious or harris is scared off by the signing of Ellis.
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Stein is saying a deal is still possible down the road, but that Harris's surgery will keep him out til the start of the reg season.

I hope that's true. I'd still like for the Mavs to bring him back (perhaps at an even more reduced price?).
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This doesn't make sense to me. Why would you kill a 3 year deal because a veteran player is going to miss camp? Seems more likely that one of the parties got cold feet.
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