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CapitanObvious · 08-03-2013, 10:16 PM

http://blogmaverick.com/2013/08/03/lets-talk-mavs-mffl/

SMC0007 · 08-03-2013, 10:34 PM

MY guess is that unbelievably terrible video is the reson he is not here. WTF.

Cool article tho, Thanks.

BGMaverick9 · 08-03-2013, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

MY guess is that unbelievably terrible video is the reson he is not here. WTF.

Cool article tho, Thanks.

Or he liked the video and it catered to the kind of person he is.

Melonhead · 08-04-2013, 12:43 AM

I can't watch the video. I can only assume its cringe worthy. Neither here nor there as whether Dwight liked it.

FreshJive · 08-04-2013, 02:34 AM

I love Mark Cuban for doing things like this. We are lucky to have such an owner. But the season after you just won a championship is considered a lost season because it's shortened and your players are not in shape because you told them there would be no season? Just wow. You have a whole season to get the players back in shape. You only need to make the playoffs. The two guys that you had to make a decision on (JJB and Tyson) were still young. He wagered that he could pull in a superstar, and he won't admit it now. Bunch of excuses.

Still. I think the new team is well thought out, and I can't wait for the season to start.

Rick41 · 08-04-2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

I can't watch the video. I can only assume its cringe worthy. Neither here nor there as whether Dwight liked it.

It's an origins video like Dirk's, Marion's and VC's.

Murphy3 · 08-04-2013, 08:06 AM

I haven't read the blog..but I assume it's a blog talking about what a total failure his plan was..

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-04-2013, 08:34 AM

Well Cuban's definition is that blowing up the team is trading your best player. So since we haven't traded Dirk, then we haven't blown up the team. Not really sure I see the logic in that since we absolutely blew up the championship team. Might not have been a full blow up, but I just don't like the idea that he thinks we've never "blown it up."

I'll put the paragraph I am referencing...

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It is also the reason I believe that you don’t just blow up a team. Go back the past 10 years and look at all the teams that traded their best player. There aren’t a lot of quick trips to the finals to point to as examples.

sinsin · 08-04-2013, 09:09 AM

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I haven't read the blog..but I assume it's a blog talking about what a total failure his plan was..

i still believe that signing chandler to a 4 year 58 million dollar contract would have been the wrong decision
also containing barea for what other teams offered him would have been wrong

i do not even bother talking about other members of the team (mahinmi *cough)

Dirk's Knee · 08-04-2013, 10:25 AM

Fantastic read. Thanks.

tap2390 · 08-04-2013, 10:36 AM

I think that video was developed under the assumption Dwight was a simpleton and meant to appeal to him with basic triggers like 'hero'.

Personally, I don't think Dwight was ever going anywhere but the Rockets, but we really shouldn't release our crappy free agent lures.

EricaLubarsky · 08-04-2013, 12:00 PM

Very interesting read and makes me respect Cuban even more now.

spreedom · 08-04-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Murphy3

I haven't read the blog..but I assume it's a blog talking about what a total failure his plan was..

What a wonderful contribution to this thread. Would read again.

LonghornDub · 08-04-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Murphy3

I haven't read the blog..but I assume it's a blog talking about what a total failure his plan was..

Good post, Murph!!!

oilfieldtrash · 08-04-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sinsin

i still believe that signing chandler to a 4 year 58 million dollar contract would have been the wrong decision

Whatever you think about what Dirk had left in the tank after 2011(which doesn't sound like you had much faith considering you wanted to take the best fitting piece he ever had away from him) keeping Chandler was the absolute best chance that Dirk had of repeating.

oilfieldtrash · 08-04-2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Murphy3

I haven't read the blog..but I assume it's a blog talking about what a total failure his plan was..

Nope. More of the smartest guy in the room bit he's been laying on us for the last 3 years. He made all the right choices even though the results were an absolute disaster.

Murphy3 · 08-04-2013, 07:05 PM

Oh, I've read it now.. Just had a pre-read opinion and a post-read opinion. The pre-read and post-read opinions are remarkably similar.

Murphy3 · 08-04-2013, 07:05 PM

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Good post, Murph!!!

Thank you longhorn... you're so sweet.

xrobx · 08-04-2013, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by oilfieldtrash

Whatever you think about what Dirk had left in the tank after 2011(which doesn't sound like you had much faith considering you wanted to take the best fitting piece he ever had away from him) keeping Chandler was the absolute best chance that Dirk had of repeating.

Definitely. Can't argue that.

sike · 08-04-2013, 08:18 PM

Loved the read. That video was rather questionable. Is a man making a decision for a MAX deal supposed to be moved by a video that looks like it's target audience is 12?

SMC0007 · 08-04-2013, 08:30 PM

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Loved the read. That video was rather questionable. Is a man making a decision for a MAX deal supposed to be moved by a video that looks like it's target audience is 12?

Hah, man no kidding. That was the most ridiculous thing I have ever witnessed to associate with a multi million dollar business venture on the entire planet. That video was a mockery of many people on this forums skills. I would have never let that garbage see the outside of that room honestly. In fact, I would have spiked it on the fucking floor when it was shown to me in suggestion that we present that to any player!

Underdog · 08-04-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

Loved the read. That video was rather questionable. Is a man making a decision for a MAX deal supposed to be moved by a video that looks like it's target audience is 12?

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Hah, man no kidding. That was the most ridiculous thing I have ever witnessed to associate with a multi million dollar business venture on the entire planet. That video was a mockery of many people on this forums skills. I would have never let that garbage see the outside of that room honestly. In fact, I would have spiked it on the fucking floor when it was shown to me in suggestion that we present that to any player!

I bet Houston made an Avengers Assemble! video for the win...

DWIGHT SMASH!!!

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-04-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

Loved the read. That video was rather questionable. Is a man making a decision for a MAX deal supposed to be moved by a video that looks like it's target audience is 12?

Well it looks like something cheaply made on the fly. They probably could have made that video on the flight over.

spreedom · 08-04-2013, 10:45 PM

Something funny: People seem to think that silly little video was an important part of the Mavs' pitch to Dwight.

Underdog · 08-04-2013, 11:58 PM

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Something funny: People seem to think that silly little video was an important part of the Mavs' pitch to Dwight.

Not really.

marc9211 · 08-05-2013, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Murphy3

I haven't read the blog..but I assume it's a blog talking about what a total failure his plan was..

Out of the 38,000 posts I see you have do any of them actually help the thread or do you just whine the whole time.

jamaljasonandjimmy · 08-05-2013, 07:32 AM

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Out of the 38,000 posts I see you have do any of them actually help the thread or do you just whine the whole time.

murphy3 Join Date: May 2001
your join date was june 2013...not defending anybody but im pretty sure murphy3 is a moderator but most likely the creator of this forum. in other words show a lil rspect. i learned the hard way dont vent your anger on this forum because you will get rick troll'd.

Dirk's Knee · 08-05-2013, 08:29 AM

For everyone dissing the video, it was a play on these:

http://vimeo.com/11082044

http://vimeo.com/59521484

Bayliss · 08-05-2013, 09:05 AM

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murphy3 Join Date: May 2001
your join date was june 2013...not defending anybody but im pretty sure murphy3 is a moderator but most likely the creator of this forum. in other words show a lil rspect. i learned the hard way dont vent your anger on this forum because you will get rick troll'd.

Nah. That is DJ.

Murph is just a long time poster who doesn't post about about basketball anymore. If you look at his posts, 90% of them are from other areas, not the Mavs section.

SMC0007 · 08-05-2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

Something funny: People seem to think that silly little video was an important part of the Mavs' pitch to Dwight.

If you have any part of the meeting that you consider unimportant, wtf are you doing there then?

sike · 08-05-2013, 09:47 AM

No one said the video was a central focus...but the fact that it was added AT ALL shows they thought they were dealing with an easily impressed "man-child".

I know those vids were in the same vein as the ones they made previously....BUT THOSE WERE MADE FOR THE FANS!

spreedom · 08-05-2013, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

If you have any part of the meeting that you consider unimportant, wtf are you doing there then?

Do you really think that's the same thing or even what I was saying?

Dirk's Knee · 08-05-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sike

No one said the video was a central focus...but the fact that it was added AT ALL shows they thought they were dealing with an easily impressed "man-child".

I know those vids were in the same vein as the ones they made previously....BUT THOSE WERE MADE FOR THE FANS!

My point was the concept (I hope) was to illustrate the way he would be presented to the fans. I seriously doubt anyone took it very seriously and in the room they probably all had a good laugh about it. Actually Dwight's "to be epic" quote looks like they were on the money crafting a video like this. Anyway, doesn't matter in the end. Anyone can play armchair GM and nitpick moves with 20/20 hindsight. These guys deal with the gigantic egos of these stars on a daily basis, we all watch from afar. What I liked was the openness from Cuban...

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-05-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sike

No one said the video was a central focus...but the fact that it was added AT ALL shows they thought they were dealing with an easily impressed "man-child".

I know those vids were in the same vein as the ones they made previously....BUT THOSE WERE MADE FOR THE FANS!

Well in the FO defense, Dwight did say he wanted to be "Epic." Not really sure why Cuban thought that was such a smart response. Sounds like something my 4 year old nephew would say.

oilfieldtrash · 08-05-2013, 10:19 AM

Did they play this video before or after the clown with balloons and cake came in?

Underdog · 08-05-2013, 10:22 AM

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Did they play this video before or after the clown with balloons and cake came in?

Why would Dwight Howard bring balloons and cake into the meeting?

SMC0007 · 08-05-2013, 10:46 AM

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Do you really think that's the same thing or even what I was saying?

No, I am asking you directy to your face, why were you there!? You have 10 minutes to reply.

SMC0007 · 08-05-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk's Knee

My point was the concept (I hope) was to illustrate the way he would be presented to the fans. I seriously doubt anyone took it very seriously and in the room they probably all had a good laugh about it. Actually Dwight's "to be epic" quote looks like they were on the money crafting a video like this. Anyway, doesn't matter in the end. Anyone can play armchair GM and nitpick moves with 20/20 hindsight. These guys deal with the gigantic egos of these stars on a daily basis, we all watch from afar. What I liked was the openness from Cuban...

Yes, everyone had a good laugh... at this guys expense:

LonghornDub · 08-05-2013, 10:58 AM

I'm not so sure that video wasn't absolutely the perfect thing to show to somebody with the personality of Dwight Howard.

spreedom · 08-05-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

No, I am asking you directy to your face, why were you there!? You have 10 minutes to reply.

What in the hell are you talking about?