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Five-ofan · 06-05-2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

That last few nights have been a terrible time to tune in. That is not the Rangers rotation that's been out there the last few nights.

Last night you had Ponson pitching on three days rest, and then then the only two relievers avaialable at all were pitchers that just don't belong in the majors, and were called up because no one else was going to be available last night.

Has Harrison really been called up? I can't check my email that gets Newberg's updates from work. That would be pretty interesting.

sorry i just reread the update. it said harrison up on the flasher at newbergreport.com. so i thought it meant up up. but he just moved from frisco to okc. Still a good deal because it makes him closer but not as big a deal. and jason botts is gone. hes going to japan.

Five-ofan · 06-05-2008, 10:58 AM

as for the rangers, i think its time we start thinking about consolidation. I dont think its the time to "go for it" yet but i do think that i would start to look at dealing some prospects if they are clearly blocked. The first thing i would do is call toronto and figure out how far away from being able to get dustin mcgowan that an offer of hurley and teagarden leaves you(yes i know that doesnt get you there). the way i look at it we have 6 every day players set for the foreseeable future if we can resign bradley(hamilton, bradley, kinsler, salty, murphy, young(at 3b most likely)) it just so happens our three best non pitching prospects play the left over positions(1b, ss and dh) Im not saying you give up everything else for no reason but i would be checking the value of teagarden because theres no way barring injury hes ever an everyday player for the rangers.

jthig32 · 06-05-2008, 01:30 PM

Ok, I thought that was weird. Although I'm sure we'll see Harrison in September.

Following the draft 5-0? Have any preferences?

Five-ofan · 06-23-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Ok, I thought that was weird. Although I'm sure we'll see Harrison in September.

Following the draft 5-0? Have any preferences?

i dont get on here as much as i would like these days(been moving) i was hoping hosmer would fall to us somehow but that was only because i didnt think there was any prayer of smoak falling. I am absolutely thrilled we got him. imo we have gone from having a gigantic hole at 1b in the system to having 1b being a huge strength in about a year with davis' emergence and the drafting of smoak. speaking of davis, how long do you think we leave him in the minors? He has been absolutely destroying the baseball. as has mayberry.

As to the talk of the angels just being too good, the angels have actually just been insanely lucky. Theyve only outscored their opponents by 12 runs for the entire season. and krods arm will fall off by the end of the season. All of that said id deal both padilla and bradley if i could get the right kind of return. (id deal millwood too but hed get alot less)

flaco, as thiggy said, the rangers have a TON of pitching in the minors. Considering feldman and hurley are already up and harrison will be soon plus beaven, main, hunter(i love that guy) ramirez, reed, feliz, font, perez, kiker.... i mean the list is nearly endless and diamond was the best of dvd before he got hurt and we still have him too. we have about 20 guys who all have monster arms. I didnt even mention derek holland or omar poveda.

also on the all star stuff, you have to start seriously considering ramon vazquez at this point. he only has 40 less abs than arod and he has a 924 ops and a great glove. i know a 500 team isnt getting 6 all stars but man this offense is sick.

this is the time to become a rangers fan. This team is going to be absolutely sick for the next 10 years.

Flacolaco · 06-05-2008, 02:12 PM

I assume the Rangers will draft pitching, right,...right?

Ohhhh.....

sike · 06-05-2008, 02:19 PM

We have the 11th pick....any thoughts, baseball heads?

jthig32 · 06-05-2008, 02:25 PM

While I would prepare for plenty of "what are the Rangers doing drafting hitting" questions, just know that the Rangers just got, by all accounts, an absolute steal at the 11th pick. Justin Smoak, college First Baseman who projects to a huge middle of the order bat and should be within striking range of the big club in two seasons.

To Flac's question, in baseball you just can't draft for the needs of your big league club. It's just projecting way too far into the future. And believe it or not, the Rangers strength in the minors right now is in pitching. A lot of it is still a ways away, but it's there.

sike · 06-05-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

the Rangers just got, by all accounts, an absolute steal at the 11th pick. Justin Smoak, college First Baseman who projects to a huge middle of the order bat and should be within striking range of the big club in two seasons.

A huge bat, huh?
maybe you need this...

sike · 06-05-2008, 02:33 PM

thiggy, any reason you know why the kid fell to the Rangers at 11?

Kidd Karma · 06-05-2008, 02:43 PM

A's fan here, when Smoak started to drop, there was a count down to our pick at 12. After every pick I was getting excited that he'd be around when the A's drafted. He in my mind will be one of the top 4 or 5 players in this draft when it's all said and done. why this low, I'm thinking money.

sike · 06-05-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

why this low, I'm thinking money.

as in he has too much and it slows him around the bases?

jthig32 · 06-05-2008, 02:53 PM

Everything I've read has said that he's not asking for huge money.

Kidd Karma · 06-05-2008, 02:59 PM

check out mlbtraderumors.com

There's supposed to be a draft blog running right now.

Scoobay · 06-06-2008, 02:18 PM

any recaps on how the rangers did in the draft? thoughts/insights from those in the know? thanks

bgarrett · 06-06-2008, 03:19 PM

Anyone know if the rumors about the Indians being interested in Kevin Millwood are true? What could the RAngers get outta that another bat :l. Also theres rumor of Indians shopping CC Sabathia...

jthig32 · 06-06-2008, 03:48 PM

Wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for the Indians to be interested in attaining Millwood and trading Sabathia at the same time. Either they're going for it this season or not.

bgarrett · 06-06-2008, 04:23 PM

THats what im thinking but I saw it on espn insider... It may still be up there.

jthig32 · 06-06-2008, 06:04 PM

Crazy things going on with the Rangers today.

First of all, they DFA'd Ponson today. Completely out of the blue for someone that had been pitching well. Apparantly he really offended someone in the clubhouse. He got real pissy after the defense made a few errors behind him the other night. JD's quotes are pretty interesting.

And to top that off, Mike Young is suddenly out for tonight with a bruised thumb. This normally wouldn't be a big deal, but our bullpen has been stretched so thin lately that we sent our only backup infielder down to bring up a pitcher the other day. What does this mean? Gerald freaking Laird is your starting 3B tonight.

Alright then.

bgarrett · 06-07-2008, 12:04 AM

Haaha and It was a laugher tonight, again! I love to watch the offense man, but I watch theses games DVR in about an hour-ish delay and I am addicted to fast forwarding thru the Defense, esp when the relievers come in. I'll be damned i spend 2 1/2 hrs to watch them blow it. In a way, It's kinda like the Mavs when we had jamison,walker, nash fin etc...

mkat · 06-08-2008, 10:51 PM

long game today...pretty fun though. murphy is looking bar impressive.

jthig32 · 06-09-2008, 07:02 PM

The Eric Hurley era is starting.

It would really boost morale if he could hit the ground running.

Flacolaco · 06-11-2008, 11:52 PM

Anyone who has been following Dans (BaD Radio on The Ticket) commentary on David Murphy should be pretty amused at tonights game.

That guy is ridiculous...and there's Hamilton going like what...3 for 6 tonight again?

The Rangers would be so awesome if they didn't suck so much (what?)

alby · 06-12-2008, 12:29 AM

we have a better record than the stros
that's all i care about right now =]

the angels are just too good, we're not catching up to them

mkat · 06-12-2008, 01:01 PM

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the angels are just too good, we're not catching up to them

we weren't/aren't expected to. i think we should just be happy they're at .500. i certainly didn't expect them to be.

Flacolaco · 06-12-2008, 12:31 AM

suck it houston.

bgarrett · 06-12-2008, 02:50 PM

We could have a chance to do something like get a Wild Card, if as soon as the starters left we didn't bring in the BP pitchers!

jthig32 · 06-21-2008, 09:41 AM

Max Ramirez has been called up. Very excited to see him play a bit.

mkat · 06-22-2008, 02:02 PM

Padilla is really playing solid.

jthig32 · 06-22-2008, 03:45 PM

You know, Hamilton's great story is overshadowing Ian Kinsler's emergence as an elite second baseman. After Utley, Ian's in the discussion for best 2B in baseball right now.

Five-ofan · 06-23-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

You know, Hamilton's great story is overshadowing Ian Kinsler's emergence as an elite second baseman. After Utley, Ian's in the discussion for best 2B in baseball right now.

i dont really think there is much discussion. Utley and uggla are 1 and 2. Ians clearly the best in the AL and 3rd best overall. and despite leading the majors in errors, he gets to so many balls hes actually a good defender too.

jthig32 · 06-23-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

i dont really think there is much discussion. Utley and uggla are 1 and 2. Ians clearly the best in the AL and 3rd best overall. and despite leading the majors in errors, he gets to so many balls hes actually a good defender too.

And Ian's four years younger than Utley and two years younger than Uggla. And I believe he's already signed a contract to eat up his arbitration years at a very reasonable rate.

Five-ofan · 06-23-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

And Ian's four years younger than Utley and two years younger than Uggla. And I believe he's already signed a contract to eat up his arbitration years at a very reasonable rate.

yeah, hes signed. he signed a 5 year deal this offseason for about 25 mil if memory serves. just glancing at the stats, there is now way uggla keeps up his numbers if he keeps striking out this much. he has 86 strikeouts in 272 abs. thats ridiculous.

Five-ofan · 06-23-2008, 10:06 AM

also for those of you that dont follow the minors, remeber the name neftali feliz. what he is doing in A ball right now is absolutely sickeningly good. in his last 10 starts hes got 67 ks in 53 ips and 6 ers allowed for a 1.02 era and an .889 whip. ACE

alby · 06-23-2008, 01:35 PM

time to beat up the other team that resides in Texas again =]

Flacolaco · 06-25-2008, 11:26 AM

So...how about that Hurley kid?

Norm is excited.

Murphy3 · 06-25-2008, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Flacolaco

So...how about that Hurley kid?

Norm is excited.

He looked alot better in his second and third games than he did in his first. He left way too many pitches up and over the middle part of the plate in his first game. Luckily, KC didn't do much with it when they got the chance. But, since then, he's looked good.

Five-ofan · 06-26-2008, 10:52 AM

general thoughts, chris davis is up. WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I now know a ranger player fairly well.(mom works at navarro/i was there when he played there) Hes a really nice guy and a hell of a hitter. Hes the best power hitting prospect in baseball right now. thats not an overstatement.

We have 2 young starters who i feel completely confident in right now(hurley and feldman) and davis, ramirez and salty whom im excited about seeing in the big leagues so young. not to mention kinsler and hamilton who are both still young. murphy is reverting to pretty much being what he is which is the best 4th ofer in baseball.

also we really need to pay attention to boscan. Guys who put up >4 to 1 g/f rates and >10 k per 9 innings simply dont exist except for him. Honestly we have more pitching prospects than anyone in baseball. I know the attrition rate for pitchers. And i understand that many of them will fall by the wayside but quietly texas has become the best team in baseball at developing pitching. The fact that they have been traded doesnt diminish the job of developing volquez, danks, and galaragga among many others that this team has done over the last few years. scott servais and rick adair deserve alot of credit for this system.

Kirobaito · 06-26-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

general thoughts, chris davis is up. WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I now know a ranger player fairly well.(mom works at navarro/i was there when he played there) Hes a really nice guy and a hell of a hitter. Hes the best power hitting prospect in baseball right now. thats not an overstatement.

We have 2 young starters who i feel completely confident in right now(hurley and feldman) and davis, ramirez and salty whom im excited about seeing in the big leagues so young. not to mention kinsler and hamilton who are both still young. murphy is reverting to pretty much being what he is which is the best 4th ofer in baseball.

also we really need to pay attention to boscan. Guys who put up >4 to 1 g/f rates and >10 k per 9 innings simply dont exist except for him. Honestly we have more pitching prospects than anyone in baseball. I know the attrition rate for pitchers. And i understand that many of them will fall by the wayside but quietly texas has become the best team in baseball at developing pitching. The fact that they have been traded doesnt diminish the job of developing volquez, danks, and galaragga among many others that this team has done over the last few years. scott servais and rick adair deserve alot of credit for this system.

You'd think that with the sheer number of high-end prospects we have right now in Spokane and Clinton, that one of them would actually develop properly. Between Font, Ramirez, Perez, Boscan, Pimentel, Castillo, Beavan, Gomez, and Feliz, God forbid one of them actually becomes what he's capable of.

I also will become attached to Boscan. I commented in a thread on Jamey's site the exact same stat that just amazes me (the 4.00 g/f and 10+ K/9).

Also, I'm just thinking about the lineup... if we can get a right-handed cleanup OF in here (that can stay healthy and play the OF... sorry Milt), can you imagine Kinsler, Young, Hams, righty, Davis, Ramirez, Salty, Murphy, and 3B next year? That's a hell of a lineup. Jason Bay, perhaps? I dunno what it would take to get him.

Scoobay · 06-27-2008, 09:47 AM

max ramirez - catcher.
salty - catcher.

who's better as a catcher and does the other move to 1B or DH?

Five-ofan · 06-27-2008, 10:31 AM

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You'd think that with the sheer number of high-end prospects we have right now in Spokane and Clinton, that one of them would actually develop properly. Between Font, Ramirez, Perez, Boscan, Pimentel, Castillo, Beavan, Gomez, and Feliz, God forbid one of them actually becomes what he's capable of.

I also will become attached to Boscan. I commented in a thread on Jamey's site the exact same stat that just amazes me (the 4.00 g/f and 10+ K/9).

Also, I'm just thinking about the lineup... if we can get a right-handed cleanup OF in here (that can stay healthy and play the OF... sorry Milt), can you imagine Kinsler, Young, Hams, righty, Davis, Ramirez, Salty, Murphy, and 3B next year? That's a hell of a lineup. Jason Bay, perhaps? I dunno what it would take to get him.

that guy is john mayberry jr. Im still not entirely sure why everyone got so down on him for taking the 1500 minor league abs everyone said it would take him to overhaul his swing when we all knew he would need it. Hes taken those 1500 abs and now guess what, hes killing the ball.

Murphy is not a good enough hitter to play everyday. I know he has a ton of rbis. So did sammy sosa last year. Hes a really good 4th ofer. Nothing more(unless you consider a platoon starter more) Brandon boggs would actually seem to make a nice platoon guy with him. That said if only one is going to play id prefer it to be boggs. He was better in the minors and has been just as good in the bigs.

i think calling up davis means they are planning on milton bradley playing alot of OF soon. it doesnt make sense to have to sit one of the 3 young guys every day.

Also, if they are planning on platooning davis and ramirez, its a terrible decision. Davis has a higher ops vs lefties than righties.

the most interesting thing about this season is that the only thing that was seen as a weakness for the rangers farm system was that while it had a ton of talent, there wasnt thought to be any immediate help. The fact that we have gotten so much help so fast is amazing.