Official trade watch 2020-2021

[Melonhead]

Obviously we cant be picky, but if im being honest Sabonis doesnt move the needle for me.

Knowing Cuban, I dont think theres a chance in hell they trade Brunson. Theyll roll the dice, probably overpay to keep him, and he becomes a starter.

THJ has to be traded at some point. Bullock too. I dont think itll be before the deadline though.

Mavs will probably do what they always do. Stand pat and if anything falls out at the end like Dragic, theyll pick him up. Although I think theres a tiny package to be found out of DFS, Trey Burke, WCS.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

Obviously we cant be picky, but if im being honest Sabonis doesnt move the needle for me.

Knowing Cuban, I dont think theres a chance in hell they trade Brunson. Theyll roll the dice, probably overpay to keep him, and he becomes a starter.

THJ has to be traded at some point. Bullock too. I dont think itll be before the deadline though.

Mavs will probably do what they always do. Stand pat and if anything falls out at the end like Dragic, theyll pick him up. Although I think theres a tiny package to be found out of DFS, Trey Burke, WCS.

Yeah I mean with Sabonis who am I shipping out to get him? Porizingis? Doesn't move the needle IMO.

I expect them to hold on to Brunson which may be a mistake. Do the Mavs REALLY need Brunson or is it about making sure their one young talent doesn't leave?

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Yeah I mean with Sabonis who am I shipping out to get him? Porizingis? Doesn't move the needle IMO.

I expect them to hold on to Brunson which may be a mistake. Do the Mavs REALLY need Brunson or is it about making sure their one young talent doesn't leave?

The Mavs need Brunson, or someone like him. The Mavs desperately need more quality attempts near the rim, and Brunson is the only player on the team besides Luka that is providing them.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

The Mavs need Brunson, or someone like him. The Mavs desperately need more quality attempts near the rim, and Brunson is the only player on the team besides Luka that is providing them.

That's why I can't say they "need" him. Because at the end of the day they still have Luka. But if you can get me a legit #2 in here who's scorer?

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

That's why I can't say they "need" him. Because at the end of the day they still have Luka. But if you can get me a legit #2 in here who's scorer?

You don’t want Luka being the only player on the team who can consistently beat the defense off the dribble. If your legit #2 does that, then great, but I think Brunson could be underrated by some of us. We still don’t know what his ceiling is.

“Jalen is at an absurd 76% fg at the rim - 98th percentile in the NBA. Same as Jokic, better than Giannis, Lebron, AD...ridiculous”

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

You don’t want Luka being the only player on the team who can consistently beat the defense off the dribble. If your legit #2 does that, then great, but I think Brunson could be underrated by some of us. We still don’t know what his ceiling is.

“Jalen is at an absurd 76% fg at the rim - 98th percentile in the NBA. Same as Jokic, better than Giannis, Lebron, AD...ridiculous”

Trust me, no fans WANT to trade him, but losing him for nothing would be yet another disaster that I don't think this franchise can handle.

He should be both starting AND running the second unit.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

You don’t want Luka being the only player on the team who can consistently beat the defense off the dribble. If your legit #2 does that, then great, but I think Brunson could be underrated by some of us. We still don’t know what his ceiling is.

“Jalen is at an absurd 76% fg at the rim - 98th percentile in the NBA. Same as Jokic, better than Giannis, Lebron, AD...ridiculous”

I like Brunson....but I can' say he's some untouchable like he's Lebron or someone. If I can improve my team? I'd be careful in how I trade him but I'd sure look to see what the market is like. Its wishful thinking but if I can get a Bradley Beal type? I'd do it.

Originally Posted by SMC0007

You're def not shipping out KP for him. Sabonis is on a solid contract under 19m while KP is around 30m. Rick just left the KP puzzle he couldn't figure out, I don't see any way he has interest in that again.

I do think Rick would have interest in DFS and maybe even Powell, but that's not netting you anything worth the hassle.

THJ contract matches Sabonis but it's far from an even trade. Also matches Le Vert and Turner but again those players have more value. I don't even consider Brogdan as gettable, he's too valuable.

Sabonis moves the needle for me because it's a big upgrade over Maxi, WCS, DP and Brown. He can pass and score in many ways. Obviously rebounds well too.

Maybe there's a package that interests them but it's gonna cost some "core" pieces....which is still probably a win and a good thing.

I don't think Brunson gets traded because we can go over to sign him. He's putting up big numbers this season and having lots of success and there's a chance Cuban learned from his mistake with Nash...but then again...it's Cuban. Either way that's an asset that we cant afford to fumble away.

How this Trade Deadline goes is more exciting than our season. It's really the only thing that can breathe life back into this dead horse.

If you are getting Sabonis for guys like Kleber, DP, etc. then sure he moves the needle. There's nothing on this roster that we can go and get Sabonis with.

Originally Posted by turin

and he's a smallish point guard at that. He's a middling starting pg who will disappear in the playoffs against defense with length. The Mavericks need to take a hard pass on overpaying him and let him go if they can't trade him. Learn from your mistakes. That means to not let assets leave for nothing as well as not OVERPAY players, especially limited ones, and Brunson is limited by his size. He also has the benefit of playing on a team with a lot of garbage, so he shines in comparison.

Agreed.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Yeah I mean with Sabonis who am I shipping out to get him? Porizingis? Doesn't move the needle IMO.

I expect them to hold on to Brunson which may be a mistake. Do the Mavs REALLY need Brunson or is it about making sure their one young talent doesn't leave?

Originally Posted by Melonhead

Obviously we cant be picky, but if im being honest Sabonis doesnt move the needle for me.

Knowing Cuban, I dont think theres a chance in hell they trade Brunson. Theyll roll the dice, probably overpay to keep him, and he becomes a starter.

THJ has to be traded at some point. Bullock too. I dont think itll be before the deadline though.

Mavs will probably do what they always do. Stand pat and if anything falls out at the end like Dragic, theyll pick him up. Although I think theres a tiny package to be found out of DFS, Trey Burke, WCS.

You're def not shipping out KP for him. Sabonis is on a solid contract under 19m while KP is around 30m. Rick just left the KP puzzle he couldn't figure out, I don't see any way he has interest in that again.

I do think Rick would have interest in DFS and maybe even Powell, but that's not netting you anything worth the hassle.

THJ contract matches Sabonis but it's far from an even trade. Also matches Le Vert and Turner but again those players have more value. I don't even consider Brogdan as gettable, he's too valuable.

Sabonis moves the needle for me because it's a big upgrade over Maxi, WCS, DP and Brown. He can pass and score in many ways. Obviously rebounds well too.

Maybe there's a package that interests them but it's gonna cost some "core" pieces....which is still probably a win and a good thing.

I don't think Brunson gets traded because we can go over to sign him. He's putting up big numbers this season and having lots of success and there's a chance Cuban learned from his mistake with Nash...but then again...it's Cuban. Either way that's an asset that we cant afford to fumble away.

How this Trade Deadline goes is more exciting than our season. It's really the only thing that can breathe life back into this dead horse.

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

I don't think Brunson gets traded because we can go over to sign him. He's putting up big numbers this season and having lots of success and there's a chance Cuban learned from his mistake with Nash...but then again...it's Cuban. Either way that's an asset that we cant afford to fumble away.

How this Trade Deadline goes is more exciting than our season. It's really the only thing that can breathe life back into this dead horse.

I thought Brunson is an UFA so we don’t have any rights to go over to sign him?

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

I thought Brunson is an UFA so we don’t have any rights to go over to sign him?

1) we can only extend him to 12m a year starting during the season
2) once we get to free agency, we have full bird rights which means we can go up to the super max with him
3) however, he’s a UFA so he could choose his fate, even if we matched all offers or even offered him more than other teams.
4) if he walks, we’re still over the cap
5) whatever we pay him, if we do, will put us deeper in the tax