11-12-2018, 12:21 AM
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Man, the Cowboys are either one of the best teams in the league or one of the worst, nothing in between... Problem is, you never know which one you're going to get.
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11-12-2018, 12:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
Man, the Cowboys are either one of the best teams in the league or one of the worst, nothing in between... Problem is, you never know which one you're going to get.
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They are a .500 team. That's pretty much all they've ever been under Garrett unless he's gifted with an easy schedule due to prior year meltdown. This year they will finish around 8-8 and will hang their hats on the year-to-year improvement after missing the playoffs yet again. SMH
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11-18-2018, 04:36 PM
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Vanderstud again.
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11-29-2018, 09:40 PM
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3 timeouts why not use them and have another chance? Stupid JG
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11-29-2018, 09:48 PM
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3 timeouts why not use them and have another chance? Stupid JG
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Dude is always playing not to lose instead of playing to win.
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11-29-2018, 09:50 PM
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Dude is always playing not to lose instead of playing to win.
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And the worst part is even if we manage to win this game I'm pretty sure we win at the cost of JG 100% keeping his job. I was going to say it was 50/50 but if they beat a 10 win team that nobody gave them a chance at then he's a lock for next year.
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11-29-2018, 10:36 PM
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I really am not looking forward to 3-4 more years of Dak and his 1yd dump offs 15 times a game.
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11-29-2018, 10:41 PM
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Wow randy Gregory personally pushing us towards a loss
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11-29-2018, 10:46 PM
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Wow randy Gregory personally pushing us towards a loss
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That awful punt penalty is one of the lowest iq things ive seen. That offisides was super ticky tack. He needs to not be so close but I literally see guys line up like that every game never called unless their helmet is over the ball and then some really.
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11-29-2018, 11:17 PM
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Amazing game by the defense. I am looking forward to hopefully 6-8 years of Vanderstud + Jaylon anchoring this defense. Dlaw too but those twin backers are amazing.
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12-03-2018, 03:31 PM
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That awful punt penalty is one of the lowest iq things ive seen. That offisides was super ticky tack. He needs to not be so close but I literally see guys line up like that every game never called unless their helmet is over the ball and then some really.
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I actually give him some slack on the roughing the punter penalty. He was hit low and had no balance whatsoever. I don't know that he was in enough control after the shot to the lower legs to change direction...
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12-04-2018, 10:28 AM
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I actually give him some slack on the roughing the punter penalty. He was hit low and had no balance whatsoever. I don't know that he was in enough control after the shot to the lower legs to change direction...
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Yea, and in my opinion, a big ass DE doesn't need to be the guy rushing for the block. Let that be a smaller nickel DB or safety, someone a little more nimble that can either avoid the cut block or recover from it.
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11-29-2018, 10:45 PM
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Dudes finger on the line should be a touchback
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11-29-2018, 11:17 PM
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Defense was pretty fantastic, offense controlled the clock. Nothing splashy, but it was enough to take down the Saints.
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11-29-2018, 11:40 PM
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Some bad calls both ways... jaylon gonna get flagged for helmet to helmet one of these days. They missed Beasley’s knee down but missed s pretty flagrant face mask on dak and missed the offensive PI on the saints TD.
Happy for the win but man our O lacks consistency and any sense of a killer instinct. Dak needs to make more plays with his legs and he still has terrible pocket presence at times
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11-29-2018, 11:47 PM
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Some bad calls both ways... jaylon gonna get flagged for helmet to helmet one of these days. They missed Beasley’s knee down but missed s pretty flagrant face mask on dak and missed the offensive PI on the saints TD.
Happy for the win but man our O lacks consistency and any sense of a killer instinct. Dak needs to make more plays with his legs and he still has terrible pocket presence at times
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And he somehow misses passes where a guy is 15yds wide open for a guaranteed td.
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11-30-2018, 12:09 AM
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And he somehow misses passes where a guy is 15yds wide open for a guaranteed td.
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Yeah that was a killer... beautiful route and overthrown smh
I don’t think dak needs to go all Lamar Jackson but they need to take advantage of his running more to keep defenses honest
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12-04-2018, 10:31 AM
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Big win by the Eagles last night. Cowboys in the driver seat for the division. Take care of business Sunday and it's all but won. Eagles have the much harder schedule to finish out, and the Redskins are toast with butt fumble running the show.
Need to get some health injection from the long rest. Smith sounds like he will be back. Lee sounds like he has a shot to play. Would love to hear something positive on Irving this week regarding availability going forward.
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12-09-2018, 09:02 PM
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Suck it Iggles.
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12-10-2018, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by saclare
Big win by the Eagles last night. Cowboys in the driver seat for the division. Take care of business Sunday and it's all but won. Eagles have the much harder schedule to finish out, and the Redskins are toast with butt fumble running the show.
Need to get some health injection from the long rest. Smith sounds like he will be back. Lee sounds like he has a shot to play. Would love to hear something positive on Irving this week regarding availability going forward.
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Actually, it is won with any kind of Eagles loss or Cowboys win the next 3 weeks. The Cowboys have the tiebreaker over the Eagles. That's not including the Redskins..but they're down to their 3rd/4th QB and are dead in the water...
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12-10-2018, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Murphy3
Actually, it is won with any kind of Eagles loss or Cowboys win the next 3 weeks. The Cowboys have the tiebreaker over the Eagles. That's not including the Redskins..but they're down to their 3rd/4th QB and are dead in the water...
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Yep. The quoted was from right after Eagles > Redskins. But in hindsight, with how bad the Skins looked against the Giants...
Eagles will be headed to LA this week to face what should be a pissed off Rams team. They should be toast.
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12-30-2018, 11:31 PM
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Bring on the seahawks!
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01-02-2019, 11:26 AM
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Hate to see the Eagles squeak in, but hope the Bears shut them down.
Seahawks will be tough, but I think the extra rest for the Boys can put them over the top. Lots and lots of Zeke...
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01-02-2019, 11:48 AM
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Cowboys value Dak Prescott, but at what price?
http://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-cowb...-at-what-price
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One NFL executive said, “Dak is great for Dallas while he's cheap, but at $25 million, he might be a drain on their resources because of how limited he is.”
The executive went on to say that the Cowboys should consider trading Prescott if the price is too high.
“If I were Dallas, I would trade him if he didn't want to sign an extension in that $15 (million to) $18 million range, and I'd sign one of the many QBs on the market this offseason,” he said. “If they don't like the trade market for Dak, maybe that tells them what the free-agent market will be like."
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01-02-2019, 01:17 PM
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Keep dak. Get rid of Garrett.
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01-02-2019, 01:30 PM
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Paying him 25m a year would be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen this team do and that's saying something.
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01-02-2019, 11:51 PM
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Paying him 25m a year would be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen this team do and that's saying something.
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Agree. Both him and Garrett need to go.
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01-02-2019, 02:33 PM
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Let's wait and see how these playoffs go first. He wins one, possibly two or more, then I think you have to get him an extension.
However, you'd hope the AAV is less than $20mm. That was a great article hitting all the angles. Going to be interesting.
There's also been a couple rumors that Garrett had more to do with the offensive game plan last week. I still maintain that Linehan is holding this offense back and I'd like to see a fresh face as OC next year.
Speaking of coordinator, I have a sneaky feeling the Cowboys will make Kris Richard the full-time DC. I think this comes by way of a Marinelli retirement, as he's been good enough to keep his job. It won't come as a force-out. Perhaps a co-DC promotion as DC in-waiting. Something, since Richard will be taking more interviews this off-season and I don't want to lose him.
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01-02-2019, 05:23 PM
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Speaking of coordinator, I have a sneaky feeling the Cowboys will make Kris Richard the full-time DC. I think this comes by way of a Marinelli retirement, as he's been good enough to keep his job. It won't come as a force-out. Perhaps a co-DC promotion as DC in-waiting. Something, since Richard will be taking more interviews this off-season and I don't want to lose him.
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It looks like MIA, NYJ, and TB are all looking to interview Kris Richard for a head coaching job... You might have to replace Garrett with him if you want to keep him.
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dal...inly-want-keep
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01-03-2019, 01:30 PM
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Yep, and some sentiment among beat guys is that he could very well impress a team enough to get the hire. I see it more as respecting his overall work, but he'd have to really "wow" a team in the interview process I'd think for someone to commit to what would be a rather large jump for a coach.
He's been a DC before, so it was surprising to me that the Cowboys were able to hire him as the DB coach and quickly named him passing game coordinator. That's why I think there is a bigger picture, under the table type deal with Richard to be the DC next season with a Marinelli retirement. Just a gut feel as Marinelli will be 70 by next season.
I'd peg the same type of agreement to Will McClay, as that's another guy I thought would see some serious GM interest (he has had some, but turned down interviews).
Edit: would LOVE to see both back, but understand the nature of the business and would root for their success elsewhere (outside of the division, of course)
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01-03-2019, 11:19 PM
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01-03-2019, 10:46 AM
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The problem with giving Dak 25 million is that you have many other guys to pay. You have Byron Jones who's developed into a very good corner. You have a game changing DE to sign. You have a WR that broke enough tackles to make Dak look good in some games in which he probably wouldn't have otherwise looked good. You have Zeke who is significantly more important to the offense. If you sign Dak, you can't sign them all. I think Dak is a very average starting QB. No, he's not one of the worst but he's definitely not one of the top QB's in the NFL. So how much do you pay a guy like that? The going rate is north of 20 million which is scary for a guy that has accuracy issues.
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01-06-2019, 12:01 AM
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Ok
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01-06-2019, 12:42 AM
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Every game feels like treading carefully with hope.
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01-06-2019, 12:41 AM
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So I guess we're getting another decade of Jason Garrett... Hooray?
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01-06-2019, 12:46 AM
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So I guess we're getting another decade of Jason Garrett... Hooray?
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Ugh but at least we can breathe a bit easier if Dak is overpaid. He played well.
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01-07-2019, 10:26 AM
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Solid showing by the Boys. I actually really like playing LA. Feel like we can play/match up with them well. Will almost be like a home game feeling for the Cowboys since that stadium will be predominantly Cowboys fans. Looking forward to it.
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01-12-2019, 02:55 PM
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let's go Boys! let's do this!
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01-12-2019, 09:15 PM
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Shredding the defense. And we can't run on their bottom 10 run defense.
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01-12-2019, 09:26 PM
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I'm just going to watch Luka highlights instead of this.
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