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Tyler Dorsey signs 2 way deal with the Mavs
Not overly enthusiastic about this but doesn't really matter.

Would have rather signed a 22 yo Lawson who is bigger, can play defense, rebounds and shot 50% from 3 in the summer league, than a 26 yo who has only shot 35% from 3 and has a seemingly very limited upside.

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Not overly enthusiastic about this but doesn't really matter.

Would have rather signed a 22 yo Lawson who is bigger, can play defense, rebounds and shot 50% from 3 in the summer league, than a 26 yo who has only shot 35% from 3 and has a seemingly very limited upside.
Yea on the surface it seems like an odd decision to lock into Dorsey that early.
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Moses Wright is signing a guaranteed deal in China with the Zhejiang Golden Bulls and is expected to waive his two-way deal.

Can we rewind time and sign Lawson to the second two-way?
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Moses Wright is signing a guaranteed deal in China with the Zhejiang Golden Bulls and is expected to waive his two-way deal.

Can we rewind time and sign Lawson to the second two-way?
If we can rewind time, that's a small ask. I'd definitely grant it. I would choose to get prime Dirk back to play with Doncic.
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If we can rewind time, that's a small ask. I'd definitely grant it. I would choose to get prime Dirk back to play with Doncic.
And....Aguirre, Blackman, Chandler, Nash, Tarpley, Marion, JET, Kidd, D. Ellis, and Perkins.

That would be my dream 12 if we could rewind.
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D. Ellis

That would be my dream 12 if we could rewind.
You would take Ellis over Finley? Blasphemy!
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You would take Ellis over Finley?
Yep...without question.

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And....Aguirre, Blackman, Chandler, Nash, Tarpley, Marion, JET, Kidd, D. Ellis, and Perkins.

That would be my dream 12 if we could rewind.
No Jamal Mashburn?
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Nash, Fin, Mashburn, Marion, Chandler
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Finley was a beast here for his first 5 to 6 seasons when he was a tremendous slasher and finisher at the rim. Then he fell in love with the jumpshot and he was never the same. If his shots weren't falling, he was then a liability on both ends of the court. Same can be said for THJ today.
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Chris Haynes: The NBA has begun an investigation into the New York Knicks for alleged tampering regarding free agent pickup Jalen Brunson, sources inform @YahooSports. ? via Twitter ChrisBHaynes

NBA will look into whether New York Knicks made contact with Jalen Brunson prior to the start of the free agency period. ?
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Finley was a beast here for his first 5 to 6 seasons when he was a tremendous slasher and finisher at the rim. Then he fell in love with the jumpshot and he was never the same. If his shots weren't falling, he was then a liability on both ends of the court. Same can be said for THJ today.
Yea. I remember Finley as a frustrating player at points because like THJ...how can you not dribble drive more effectively.
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Yea. I remember Finley as a frustrating player at points because like THJ...how can you not dribble drive more effectively.
Finley was a much better ball handler than THJ though even if he was mediocre at it. Problem with Fin is he had the same move every time against the defender. Ball up, out, down, then drive. Too predictable.

As far as this Dale Ellis thing goes...Seattle's Ellis, hell yes over Finley. Dallas's Ellis wasn't that player, so Fin for sure.
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Finley was a much better ball handler than THJ though even if he was mediocre at it. Problem with Fin is he had the same move every time against the defender. Ball up, out, down, then drive. Too predictable.

As far as this Dale Ellis thing goes...Seattle's Ellis, hell yes over Finley. Dallas's Ellis wasn't that player, so Fin for sure.
Ellis was on the verge of a major breakout with the Mavs, but they were simply too deep for him to take on a major role.
He was a legit starter, but no way was he moving Blackman or Aquirre to the bench.
They were in a position where they had to move him.

But damn...the Mavs made the worst trade in Mavs history (imo) when they traded Dale Ellis for Al Wood. That might be one of the most memorable unbalanced trades in NBA history for some of us old-timers.

They had a similar situation shortly after with Schrempf. They botched that one too by trading him and a 2nd rounder (Antonio Davis) for Herb Williams.

Mark Price for a 2nd rounder was another stupid move the Mavs made.

But to be honest, I'd take Schrempf over Fin in my dream 12.
My internal debate was between Schrempf and Ellis in my initial post.

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Old 08-03-2022, 11:15 AM   #1375
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I have this gut feeling that the Heat are salivating at the prospect of adding Donovan Mitchell to a starting five with Butler, Bam, and Lowry. Especially, if they are going to keep pace with the Celtics. The problem is that Miami will need a third team to make it happen because the Jazz are not likely thrilled about the idea of taking on Duncan Robinson's four year contract. Mavs would be in a position to be the third team to make this work. The most straightforward trade being the Mavs send THJ and his three year contract (salary goes down every year) to Utah with Robinson coming to the Mavs. I am not sure that is a great deal for the Mavs but the following might make more sense:

Miami trades:
Robinson to the Mavs
Herro to the Jazz
Oladipo to the Jazz
Several 1st round draft picks to the Jazz

Utah trades:
Mitchell to the Heat
Jared Butler to the Heat (Rudy Gay also works)
Beverley to the Mavs

Mavs trade:
THJ to the Jazz
Powell to the Jazz

Outcome:
Miami receives Mitchell and Butler (or Gay)
Jazz receive Herro, Oladipo, THJ, Powell, draft picks
Mavs receive Robinson and Beverley

It is a lot for the Heat to give up for Mitchell but I am not sure they have much choice if they are going to compete with the Celtics. Boston absolutely won the offseason in my opinion given the additions of Brogdon and Gallo. Miami has to do something and Mitchell is the best option they have if they want to keep their core.

Note: Adding Butler or Gay is not necessary to make the trade work (Mitchell alone works), but the Jazz would need to trade one more player because I do not believe they have enough roster slots otherwise. They could waive Powell immediately as a third option.
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I have this gut feeling that the Heat are salivating at the prospect of adding Donovan Mitchell to a starting five with Butler, Bam, and Lowry. Especially, if they are going to keep pace with the Celtics. The problem is that Miami will need a third team to make it happen because the Jazz are not likely thrilled about the idea of taking on Duncan Robinson's four year contract. Mavs would be in a position to be the third team to make this work. The most straightforward trade being the Mavs send THJ and his three year contract (salary goes down every year) to Utah with Robinson coming to the Mavs. I am not sure that is a great deal for the Mavs but the following might make more sense:

Miami trades:
Robinson to the Mavs
Herro to the Jazz
Oladipo to the Jazz
Several 1st round draft picks to the Jazz

Utah trades:
Mitchell to the Heat
Jared Butler to the Heat (Rudy Gay also works)
Beverley to the Mavs

Mavs trade:
THJ to the Jazz
Powell to the Jazz

Outcome:
Miami receives Mitchell and Butler (or Gay)
Jazz receive Herro, Oladipo, THJ, Powell, draft picks
Mavs receive Robinson and Beverley

It is a lot for the Heat to give up for Mitchell but I am not sure they have much choice if they are going to compete with the Celtics. Boston absolutely won the offseason in my opinion given the additions of Brogdon and Gallo. Miami has to do something and Mitchell is the best option they have if they want to keep their core.

Note: Adding Butler or Gay is not necessary to make the trade work (Mitchell alone works), but the Jazz would need to trade one more player because I do not believe they have enough roster slots otherwise. They could waive Powell immediately as a third option.
I?m not super interested in Robinson with Bertans on the roster. I saw somewhere earlier Mavs are shopping THJ. Robinson?s contract is rough though. Basically Bertans but longer I think.
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In a face-to-face meeting with Brooklyn Nets owner Joe Tsai over the weekend, All-NBA star Kevin Durant reiterated his trade request and informed Tsai that he needs to choose between Durant or the pairing of general manager Sean Marks and coach Steve Nash, sources tell The Athletic. Durant stated he does not have faith in the team?s direction, sources said. ? via Shams Charania @ The Athletic

Faith in the team?s direction? They signed you to a max deal, and paid you to rehab. Signed/traded for your buddies. Didn?t KD and Kylie want Nash at the HC?
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KD is a piece of crap.

He needs to be punished by making him play out his contract in Dallas-Fort Worth.
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In a face-to-face meeting with Brooklyn Nets owner Joe Tsai over the weekend, All-NBA star Kevin Durant reiterated his trade request and informed Tsai that he needs to choose between Durant or the pairing of general manager Sean Marks and coach Steve Nash, sources tell The Athletic. Durant stated he does not have faith in the team?s direction, sources said. ? via Shams Charania @ The Athletic

Faith in the team?s direction? They signed you to a max deal, and paid you to rehab. Signed/traded for your buddies. Didn?t KD and Kylie want Nash at the HC?
Ha, welcome to the NBA Joe Tsai.....nah, I think they just endorsed it after he was hired....they didn't care at that point. Thought KD and Nash did have some interaction in Oakland when Nash I believe was a "consultant" under Kerr. Well either way, KD made the demand without any reason, now weeks, with nothing being done....he's dropped his value even further coming out it's me or the coach.

I think this is more Nash than Marks. When a player does not respect you as a coach, it's going to be a lost season. Marks has his hands tied with 3 40 million dollar salaries, not much you can do when you are handicapped like that. You got Harden who probably ignores every coaches' plea, that shows KD that there is a lack of respect from players and it will continue with the next 40 million dollar man. When you have a contract like Kyrie sit out for home games....with Nash not being able to do anything about it....it probably ate at KD all season...who cares what he said in the media, players will toe the line. It ate at a competitor like KD. Then you trade Harden for a bag full of trash......in KD's mind, draft picks are trash. KD and Kidd......boy that would fit like a glove. All that work Kidd did with Giannis will again pop up here, a 7 foot point guard, or power forward...boy imagine all the tricks Kidd can teach KD. Then you cross that with Luka.....we got 3 1st rounders and a bag of trash laying around?
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I mean, KD already said he wants out, so I feel like this is just another odd thing for him to do. What if they fired the coach/gm, and he still wants out? He certainly embraces being the villain.

With that said, if Luka wanted Nico/Kidd gone, then it would happen immediately. This is a league run by superstars...like it or not.
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Not that anyone really cares what Kyrie thinks, but?

The Nets did not respond to a request for comment. A message sent to Rich Kleiman, Durant?s business partner, went unanswered. A source close to the Nets organization indicated Durant is not the only Nets star unhappy with the team?s leadership. ?Kyrie Irving hates these guys,? the source said. ?He feels that Nash is terrible and Marks is bad.? ? via Mark W. Sanchez, Josh Kosman @ New York Post
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Marc Stein: Dallas plans to hire former NBA swingman Marko Milič ? Slovenia?s first NBA player ? to join the coaching staff in player development, league sources confirm. Milič obviously knows Luka Dončić well and played with Jason Kidd in Phoenix. More NBA from me: marcstein.Substack.com ? via Twitter TheSteinLine
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