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Old 05-12-2022, 11:24 PM   #921
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What’s up with Philly? Butler didn’t want to be there. Simmons didn’t want to be there. Harden didn’t look interested in playing at all.
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Harden had one of his all time stinkers

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For a guy whose defense is all-time awful that’s not great

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I don't like being beating up on players for being "chokers' or whatever, because I remember how painful it was when people said it about Dirk before 2011. And most of the time I think it's untrue. Players who don't win championships usually don't win because their teams simply aren't good enough.

But with Harden... man he just repeatedly buckles when it matters the most. It's happened more times than I can even remember. He has to be on the short list of all-time playoff underachievers.
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I don't like being beating up on players for being "chokers' or whatever, because I remember how painful it was when people said it about Dirk before 2011. And most of the time I think it's untrue. Players who don't win championships usually don't win because their teams simply aren't good enough.

But with Harden... man he just repeatedly buckles when it matters the most. It's happened more times than I can even remember. He has to be on the short list of all-time playoff underachievers.
You could see it when he stepped off that plane and Morey forced a little selfie of them. That is not a guy that wants to be there IMO.

Morey spent years treating players like nothing but throwaway assets. That will stick.
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Why do the refs let Draymond yell at them so much? He just yelled at them on defense and offense.
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Tatum keeps getting Curry switched on him, but doesn?t attack him at all. He?s passed the ball the last 3 possessions.
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Why do the refs let Draymond yell at them so much? He just yelled at them on defense and offense.
No one tracks this stat, but I bet Draymond is the least likely to get his 2nd tech of all time, despite the arguing and yelling at the refs intensifying after getting a 1st tech. I don't get it.
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Adrian Wojnarowski: After eight seasons as coach, Snyder simply decided that it?s time to step away. Conversations had been amicable with team, relationships still strong, but Snyder has decided to leave after building the Jazz into a perennial playoff contender. 4 hours ago ? via Twitter wojespn

Amid the reverberations of Quin Snyder?s departure after eight seasons as the Utah Jazz coach, All-Star guard Donovan Mitchell is described as ?unsettled, unnerved and wondering what it means for the franchise?s future,? sources told ESPN on Sunday. Mitchell considered Snyder a significant part of his reasoning for committing to a five-year maximum contract extension in 2020, and Snyder?s decision to step away on Sunday has left Mitchell ?surprised and disappointed,? sources told ESPN. 2 hours ago ? via Adrian Wojnarowski @ ESPN
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Dude looked miserable

Good for him.

Reminded me of Don Sr when he looked like he wanted nothing more than to finish the fifth he started before the game.
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Dude looked miserable

Good for him.

Reminded me of Don Sr when he looked like he wanted nothing more than to finish the fifth he started before the game.
big shake up there - not completely unexpected it seems

if Utah decides to move on from one or both of Mitchell/Gobert that could really shake things up as far as the trade/FA market. Knicks could be a player for either of those according to some posters on SLC Dunk - jazz sb nation website.
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Green already had one technical foul in the game, from a foolish incident in the first quarter where he benefitted from a questionable call and then kept jawing at Grant Williams anyways for some reason. A second tech would?ve meant an ejection. According to Javie, the refs had to take that into account.

?You have to consider one player has definitely a technical foul,? Javie said. ?Is this enough to call a double T and eject the one player? Personally, I would say nothing and just let it defuse as that.?

Mark Jackson then followed up with Javie to clarify whether a ref is actually taking the fact that Green already had a technical foul into consideration as he?s reviewing the play.

?Absolutely,? Javie said. ?I think that?s part of good officiating is the fact that you have to know who has the technical fouls. And in this situation, one of the players does. Is this enough to warrant an ejection, is what you have to think about.?
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Green already had one technical foul in the game, from a foolish incident in the first quarter where he benefitted from a questionable call and then kept jawing at Grant Williams anyways for some reason. A second tech would?ve meant an ejection. According to Javie, the refs had to take that into account.

?You have to consider one player has definitely a technical foul,? Javie said. ?Is this enough to call a double T and eject the one player? Personally, I would say nothing and just let it defuse as that.?

Mark Jackson then followed up with Javie to clarify whether a ref is actually taking the fact that Green already had a technical foul into consideration as he?s reviewing the play.

?Absolutely,? Javie said. ?I think that?s part of good officiating is the fact that you have to know who has the technical fouls. And in this situation, one of the players does. Is this enough to warrant an ejection, is what you have to think about.?
A tech is a tech is a tech is a tech. Consistency is all we ask about, refs. It's up to the player and coaching to not get into a situation that might warrant a 2nd tech.
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A tech is a tech is a tech is a tech. Consistency is all we ask about, refs. It's up to the player and coaching to not get into a situation that might warrant a 2nd tech.
I agree. CJ McCollum said he agrees though with Javie. He said something like you don?t want the refs to affect the outcome by tossing a player.
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I agree. CJ McCollum said he agrees though with Javie. He said something like you don?t want the refs to affect the outcome by tossing a player.
Slippery slope and we've already seen refs able to impact games illegally.

If you earn it, you earn it. I'm sure it all factors in as they don't want to be the reason or have someone point the finger back at them, but damn it's part of the game and these guys get away with so much after the 1st. At some point, the review process would likely have the NBA backing the refs in most circumstances if I had a guess.

And don't get me wrong, plenty of times Luka probably deserved a 2nd tech lol this isn't just a hate on Draymond thing. It's also not great to have kids watching this and emulating. AAU has gotten incredibly heated already with pure competition, and we already have kids and adults in gyms everywhere yelling AND-1 on every drive lol
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I agree. CJ McCollum said he agrees though with Javie. He said something like you don?t want the refs to affect the outcome by tossing a player.
But they don't afford that to Luka. Luka gets one tech and then they have no problem giving him a second.

Draymond screams at them the entire game. Just gotta make sure he doesn't get thrown out? Ridiculous.
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i'll just drop this one here too. i haven't really cared or paid much of any attention to them even throughout their championship runs, etc. But apparently it's nothing new.

no question that GSW have been coached on this "art" of moving screens - it's very subtle, but there's no doubt that they do it on purpose with the screener backing away from the defender but in a direction that gives them a push off to the side and gives Curry or Klay a little extra space to release their shot.

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this draymond example is more egregious with him basically bodying up every celtic player within 10 feet and pushing them away from Curry.

Not to take anything away from Curry or Klay - they are historic all time great shooters. But I hope the refs are paying attention and noting the ways that they are getting help with illegal screens. It's hard enough chasing someone through umpteen legitimate screens. As a defender though you can't do much if the other guy is allowed to move and actively block you.
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CJ McCollum on Draymond not getting a 2nd technical: "Was it extra - absolutely. Did it deserve a technical - absolutely not, not in the Finals, not in this situation. The referees can't control the outcome of the game... I thought that they handled this situation accordingly."

Here is the link where I found CJ?s comments.

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In the 3 Finals games Draymond has 15 points and 15 fouls (2 fouled out). His wife also wasn?t happy with Boston fans chanting F Draymond lol. I?m pretty sure I read Draymond was cursing at the press conference while his kid was with him? Unsure on that last part. Dude really puts himself on a pedestal considering he ain?t shit without 2 hall of famers next to him.
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In the 3 Finals games Draymond has 15 points and 15 fouls (2 fouled out). His wife also wasn?t happy with Boston fans chanting F Draymond lol. I?m pretty sure I read Draymond was cursing at the press conference while his kid was with him? Unsure on that last part. Dude really puts himself on a pedestal considering he ain?t shit without 2 hall of famers next to him.
plus the 2 chips with Durant making that 3 HOF'ers he's played with.
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That's the difference between GSW and Boston in this series. It certainly wasn't talent, because Boston has more than enough talent to win. But Tatum seems to be missing something as an alpha. I feel like he'd be much more comfortable as the 2nd option, and he'd be the best 2nd option in the league. Kinda like AD, when he's healthy.

On that note, if I could pick any one player in the league to put next to Luka, it would be Tatum. Tatum is the closest thing in the league today to Scottie Pippen. Dominant two-way wing, and would probably have no problem deferring to Luka.
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Gotta hand it to Curry though. 4x champ, Finals MVP (finally), 2x MVP, 4x all-nba first team, 3x all-nba second team, 1x all-nba third team, 2x scoring champion, 7x 3pt champion. Greatest shooter ever by far.

That's one hell of a legacy, and he's still got several good years left probably. I'm not exactly sure where I'd rank him all time but anything out of the top 15 seems criminal at this point.
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Gotta hand it to Curry though. 4x champ, Finals MVP (finally), 2x MVP, 4x all-nba first team, 3x all-nba second team, 1x all-nba third team, 2x scoring champion, 7x 3pt champion. Greatest shooter ever by far.

That's one hell of a legacy, and he's still got several good years left probably. I'm not exactly sure where I'd rank him all time but anything out of the top 15 seems criminal at this point.
Agree - it was only 8 years ago when Barkley said a jump shooting 3pt team would never win a ring. Hate to miss that one Chuck...
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Curry has top be in the top 10 for me, I said it before this finals that if he won this one, it's hard to continue betting against him.
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That's the difference between GSW and Boston in this series. It certainly wasn't talent, because Boston has more than enough talent to win. But Tatum seems to be missing something as an alpha. I feel like he'd be much more comfortable as the 2nd option, and he'd be the best 2nd option in the league. Kinda like AD, when he's healthy.

On that note, if I could pick any one player in the league to put next to Luka, it would be Tatum. Tatum is the closest thing in the league today to Scottie Pippen. Dominant two-way wing, and would probably have no problem deferring to Luka.

yeah tatum 6-18 and 5 TO, but in fairness, Klay also went 5-20. Must be nice to have one of your top two players shoot 25% on 20 shots and still win by 13.

Agree that Tatum seems to lack a certain something. Maybe he'll develop that over the course of his career.

And for anyone complaining about the Mavs drafting, what a whiff by the "process" in taking Fultz over Tatum. Embiid + Tatum - how does that sound? hell I think they'd maybe have been able to live with Simmons' lack of shooting if they had Tatum too. Then the next year they took mikal bridges and traded him ffs. That's one hell of a defensive lineup. Then you just need a pg who can shoot and defend. Embiid, Simmons (play PF on defense), Tatum, Bridges, point guard.
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Curry is top 10. Warriors will be tough to beat the next 2-3 years. Scary to think of the younr talent they have accumulated -- Moody, Wiggins, Kuminga, Poole, Wiseman, pick this year.
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yeah tatum 6-18 and 5 TO, but in fairness, Klay also went 5-20. Must be nice to have one of your top two players shoot 25% on 20 shots and still win by 13.

Agree that Tatum seems to lack a certain something. Maybe he'll develop that over the course of his career.

And for anyone complaining about the Mavs drafting, what a whiff by the "process" in taking Fultz over Tatum. Embiid + Tatum - how does that sound? hell I think they'd maybe have been able to live with Simmons' lack of shooting if they had Tatum too. Then the next year they took mikal bridges and traded him ffs. That's one hell of a defensive lineup. Then you just need a pg who can shoot and defend. Embiid, Simmons (play PF on defense), Tatum, Bridges, point guard.
Boston owned the first pick in that draft originally. There was an agreement that Philly wouldn?t take Tatum otherwise the deal wouldn?t have gone through. Really it?s the Lakers that blew it and took Lonzo.
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Curry is top 10. Warriors will be tough to beat the next 2-3 years. Scary to think of the younr talent they have accumulated -- Moody, Wiggins, Kuminga, Poole, Wiseman, pick this year.
He's not quite in my top 10, but that says a lot more about how insanely hard it is to be top 10 than it says about him. I have Kobe at #10 all time. So to crack the top 10, you have to be better than Kobe freaking Bryant. That is a very tall mountain to climb.

My top 10 in this exact order.

MJ
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Shaq
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I'm sure a lot of people today would probably say I have Shaq ranked too high, but I remember vividly the entire league living in fear of Shaq and being at his mercy for the first part of this century. Nobody in my lifetime other than MJ has ever terrified and utterly owned the league the way Shaq did. Not Lebron, not Kobe, not Curry.

I also have KD ranked higher than Curry, and I'm not sure I can rank him above Jerry West or Oscar Robertson either. Maaayyyybe, but I'm not sure. Either way, Steph just misses my top 10.

But there is certainly no shame at all in "only" being #12-14 greatest ever.

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Steph's all around game doesn't come anywhere close to his three point shooting. He is one of the greatest three point shooters of all time and basically changed league rules because of it. But everything else is rather mediocre when it comes to superstar standards.

We're talking top 10 here. No way I'm putting him there...yet.
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Steph's all around game doesn't come anywhere close to his three point shooting. He is one of the greatest three point shooters of all time and basically changed league rules because of it. But everything else is rather mediocre when it comes to superstar standards.

We're talking top 10 here. No way I'm putting him there...yet.
To be fair, he's not one of the greatest 3pt shooters ever, he's THE greatest shooter ever, and I don't think anyone else comes particularly close. And I wouldn't say that everything else about his game is mediocre either. He's always been an elite ball handler too, and while his playmaking isn't elite by PG standards, it's certainly more than good enough for the way GSW plays. And his rebounding is above average for PG as well. The only part of his game that I would call mediocre is his defense. And in today's NBA, who cares?

But yeah, I still can't justify putting him above Kobe, Shaq, or KD, and I don't think I can put him above West or Robertson either. So for me that puts him #14 all time. Not too shabby.
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