GDT 62: Mavs (35-27) v. RED HOT Wizards (29-34) (9-1 last 10) - Page 2 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

MFFL · 05-01-2021, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Yea, the want and hustle is there but the success and growth isn't. He won't have anyone wanting to give him a raise to leave so he will pick up his final year option. I guess we could include him on a trade next year depending on the need.

Why would JR pick up his option? He can't get less than he's currently making (MLE-ish money) and would get AT LEAST an additional 2 years on his contract (with the last one a player option so if he bounces back he gets paid)

There is zero reason for JR to opt in. Haywood proved that last year

NeedlesKane · 05-01-2021, 11:42 PM

I am so happy with J-Rich! I think his defense is the difference we needed in order to be a contender. I was so against trading Seth Curry for him. Boy, was I ever wrong! He's easily our top defender.

SMC0007 · 05-02-2021, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MFFL

Why would JR pick up his option? He can't get less than he's currently making (MLE-ish money) and would get AT LEAST an additional 2 years on his contract (with the last one a player option so if he bounces back he gets paid)

There is zero reason for JR to opt in. Haywood proved that last year

His value is low and he's starting here. He has had a chance to up his value all season starting every game he was available for. He couldn't have been set up for success and raising his stonk any better than here. Haywood is in a complete other ballpark. Perhaps JRiich wants to go pine ride for a contender.

purplefrog · 05-02-2021, 08:40 AM

Might be time to start Burke in place of JRich. Didn't Trey start in some of the playoff games last year? My memory is that he and Luka played well together. Also, he might help with the slow starts the Mavs are frequently having, especially on the offensive end of the court. Seems logical and sensible.. I doubt it happens.

tap2390 · 05-02-2021, 09:38 AM

I’m all for Burke starting over JRich. Burke is less switchable but is still a fantastic on ball defender and fights hard on screens.

Melonhead · 05-02-2021, 10:31 AM

Burke is a relentless dog on defense, I doubt he will start over Rich for optics. But in the playoffs I could see Burke getting more minutes.

rimrocker · 05-02-2021, 11:00 AM

I like the idea of starting Burke and moving either JRich or Maxi to the bench depending on matchups.

Burke and Brunson don't seem to be a particularly good duo off the bench and JRich would provide some D with Brunson and THJ.

SL: Luka/Burke/DFS/Maxi/KP
Bench: Brunson/JRich/THJ/Melli (or Powell)/WCS
Reddick needs to fit in there somewhere as well.

EricaLubarsky · 05-02-2021, 01:13 PM

THJ and KP out tonight

purplefrog · 05-02-2021, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

I like the idea of starting Burke and moving either JRich or Maxi to the bench depending on matchups.

Burke and Brunson don't seem to be a particularly good duo off the bench and JRich would provide some D with Brunson and THJ.

SL: Luka/Burke/DFS/Maxi/KP
Bench: Brunson/JRich/THJ/Melli (or Powell)/WCS
Reddick needs to fit in there somewhere as well.

It might also help JRich. I would like to see RC try bringing him off the bench to see if that leads to him making a greater contribution. At some point you have to conclude that the addition of JRich has not provided the punch expected and you have to go to a plan B. An optimistic view is that he is playing solid "under the radar" defense, but even then, his lack of contribution or perhaps even negative contribution on offense is contributing to the poor starts the Mavs are having all too frequently.

If you look at the offseason moves, the MBT attempted to shore up the defensive side of the ball. They traded for JRich and James Johnson. They drafted Josh Green and re-signed WCS. On paper, all of those were very good and encouraging moves. JJ is now gone (his defense was blah, in my opinion), Green is getting very little playing time, so that leaves JRich and WCS and the question "Are the Mavs any better defensively than they were last year?" I think we see some impact with WCS but JRich is still a question mark. Why not bring him off the bench and add some offense to the starting group in an attempt to avoid digging yourself an early hole? If that does not bring him around, then perhaps you look to move him in the offseason if he opts in.

Dallas41 · 05-02-2021, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

I like the idea of starting Burke and moving either JRich or Maxi to the bench depending on matchups.

Burke and Brunson don't seem to be a particularly good duo off the bench and JRich would provide some D with Brunson and THJ.

SL: Luka/Burke/DFS/Maxi/KP
Bench: Brunson/JRich/THJ/Melli (or Powell)/WCS
Reddick needs to fit in there somewhere as well.

WCS is the best defensive big we have

Last night if you recall he forced a travel on Bradley Beal because Beal tried to drive on him and WCS was quick enough to stay with him. Beal got himself stuck inside realizing he didn't have a shot on that play which led the travel.

I actually continue to be amazed by the quick feet that WCS has defensively on smaller matchups he gets switched on.

But anyway my point is I'm never taking Powell over WCS because Powell is non existent in terms of defense. Yes he catch lobs and plays with great hustle but way too often he's caught out of position in terms of defensive rebounding or he simply lacks the length to contest anything defensively inside.

Melonhead · 05-02-2021, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MFFL

Why would JR pick up his option? He can't get less than he's currently making (MLE-ish money) and would get AT LEAST an additional 2 years on his contract (with the last one a player option so if he bounces back he gets paid)

There is zero reason for JR to opt in. Haywood proved that last year

Cause he’s playing like shit. He’s not a true starter so idk who’s paying him a multi year contract at what he’d opt in at.

sefant77 · 05-02-2021, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Might be time to start Burke in place of JRich. Didn't Trey start in some of the playoff games last year? My memory is that he and Luka played well together. Also, he might help with the slow starts the Mavs are frequently having, especially on the offensive end of the court. Seems logical and sensible.. I doubt it happens.

Did you also doubt that Barea would replace Stevenson in the 2011 finals after the awesome run the Mavs had so far?

If Ricks sees a mismatch or a way to improve a matchup, he is going to put in Burke

BigDog63 · 05-02-2021, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Burke is a relentless dog on defense, I doubt he will start over Rich for optics.

You know what makes good optics?

Winning. If someone helps your team win, f any other 'optics'. There's no prize for optics.

Melonhead · 05-02-2021, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Did you also doubt that Barea would replace Stevenson in the 2011 finals after the awesome run the Mavs had so far?

If Ricks sees a mismatch or a way to improve a matchup, he is going to put in Burke

I wonder what gave Rick that idea? He doesn’t get credit for that move

SMC0007 · 05-02-2021, 06:51 PM

GDT??

EricaLubarsky · 05-02-2021, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

GDT??

Mavs don't play against Sacramento so no need for a GDT

Bryan_Wilson · 05-02-2021, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Mavs don't play against Sacramento so no need for a GDT

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SMC0007 · 05-02-2021, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Mavs don't play against Sacramento so no need for a GDT

Pow!

Dallas41 · 05-02-2021, 08:11 PM

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