Stupid Journalist Throws Shoes at Bush!!!

[dirno2000]

[GermanDunk]

We definately need more rep

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by dirno2000

Brilliant...

[alexamenos]

Originally Posted by dirno2000

that is so good.

[Big Boy Laroux]

Originally Posted by MaVs 41 BaLler

Everyone in Chicago thought it was funny and said that he deserved it. My teacher saw it and started cracking up in class. He teaches AP U.S History.

And dang Bush has got some crazy dodging skills. I bet they trained him.
Their probably training Obama right now. Their teaching him to dodge bullets.

Edited, and STILL not correct.

[Big Boy Laroux]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

What could the Secret Service have done? Make them take off their shoes, like in airport security?

I'm with KG on this. It's not about the shoe itself, but that the secret service took sooooooooo long to react. The head of the detail reacted only after the SECOND shoe had already passed Bush. He should have been up after the first shoe.

[alexamenos]

couple o' things...

1) when an arab hits you with the bottom of his shoe, he's basically saying "you're as low as the dirt I walk upon" or something like that -- so the shoe thing is really an attempt to insult, not injure;

2) the rush limbaugh-esque line that this 'shows how great of a job we've done there because look how free they are now' is abject nonsense....i mean, does anybody imagine that someone doing such a thing, or threatening from afar, in the US wouldn't be subject to some pretty stiff punishment? The guy would have been dealt with most severely by Hussein, and it's likely he'll have a really rough go of things with Al Maliki as well....maybe not as swift or as severe, but a different shade of gray and not an altogether different color.

[jefelump]

Originally Posted by alexamenos

couple o' things...

1) when an arab hits you with the bottom of his shoe, he's basically saying "you're as low as the dirt I walk upon" or something like that -- so the shoe thing is really an attempt to insult, not injure;

2) the rush limbaugh-esque line that this 'shows how great of a job we've done there because look how free they are now' is abject nonsense....i mean, does anybody imagine that someone doing such a thing, or threatening from afar, in the US wouldn't be subject to some pretty stiff punishment? The guy would have been dealt with most severely by Hussein, and it's likely he'll have a really rough go of things with Al Maliki as well....maybe not as swift or as severe, but a different shade of gray and not an altogether different color.

I saw a headline today that said he has a broken arm and ribs, and cuts on his under his eye. So yea, he's being dealt with...

[wmbwinn]

Originally Posted by alexamenos

i think we need to think seriously about more stringent shoe control policies in the us, like background checks and five day waiting periods required before one can purchase a new pair of nikes. And Doc Martins? Probably ought to outlaw those all together.

sure, some will argue that shoes don't kill people, angry iraqis with shoes kill people, but I think we need to think more pragmatically and less dogmatically about our size 10 1/2 ammendment rights to have and wear shoes.

Thanks, Alex. You summed it up for me. I wish I could give you positive rep

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by alexamenos

couple o' things...

1) when an arab hits you with the bottom of his shoe, he's basically saying "you're as low as the dirt I walk upon" or something like that -- so the shoe thing is really an attempt to insult, not injure;

I'm guessing if he had yelled, "you're as low as dirt . . . " instead of throwing a show, then he'd be dealt with differently. Cause those are different acts.

2) the rush limbaugh-esque line that this 'shows how great of a job we've done there because look how free they are now' is abject nonsense....i mean, does anybody imagine that someone doing such a thing, or threatening from afar, in the US wouldn't be subject to some pretty stiff punishment? The guy would have been dealt with most severely by Hussein, and it's likely he'll have a really rough go of things with Al Maliki as well....maybe not as swift or as severe, but a different shade of gray and not an altogether different color.

uh, he attacked a visiting president. He should be dealt with severely. But death and broken ribs are not different shades of the same color. One leads to, well, death. The other does not.

[rabbitproof]

Really? If someone threw a shoe at you tomorrow, would they go to jail? Throwing a shoe at someone is ATTACKING? God forbid if people start throwing their underwear at people.

Like others have said, one, it illustrates secret service sucks and two, it was lucky for Bush the journalist just wanted to insult and not to injure.

If he really has broken arms, democracy is a joke.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

If he really has broken arms, democracy is a joke.

You must mean like it is up in New York and the guy who was beaten by cops while in Jail. Or the molestations that take place in our prisons every day. I mean TRUE democracy is perfect.

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Really? If someone threw a shoe at you tomorrow, would they go to jail? Throwing a shoe at someone is ATTACKING? God forbid if people start throwing their underwear at people.

Like others have said, one, it illustrates secret service sucks and two, it was lucky for Bush the journalist just wanted to insult and not to injure.

If he really has broken arms, democracy is a joke.

If it's not ATTACKING, then why would the secret service have to do anything?

[Silk Smoov]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Really? If someone threw a shoe at you tomorrow, would they go to jail? Throwing a shoe at someone is ATTACKING? God forbid if people start throwing their underwear at people.

Like others have said, one, it illustrates secret service sucks and two, it was lucky for Bush the journalist just wanted to insult and not to injure.

If he really has broken arms, democracy is a joke.

Just think about what you just said. You are trying to say that throwing a shoe as hard as you can at an American President is NOT an attack? Put it this way, lets assume both of those shoes hit Bush, and broke his nose, would that be an attack? Dont sit here and say that those shoes could not have broken his nose.

This guy intended on harming OUR President. Simple as that. If he did not want to harm him, then he could have taken off his shoes and made the statement with words, and it would mean the same. What this guy did was try to injure OUR President with what he had left after being searched.

Instead of calling Bush lucky, call the journalist lucky!!!!!!!! Get the "F" out of here with that mess. Like I said, I wish I was there, because it would be hard to pull me off that guy. I would have went directly for his throat...

[rabbitproof]

UL/SS,
Well, security matters because it could've been attacking - but it wasn't. The man could've thrown a water balloon and secret service would have had to be on that, too, because it could've been a molotov cocktail.

Seriously, throwing a shoe is an attack? Isn't attacking a head of state of another country grounds to go to war? Should we declare war on Iraq? Was that an assassination attempt on our President?

Get outta here. Personally, I don't see a man throwing a shoe at me as an attack. If we disagree there, we'll never agree on this issue.

--

dude,
Oh, there's corruption and evil everywhere but shouldn't a government atleast pretend to not hurt its own citizens without trial? Especially in highly publicized case like this. Basically, the message, if it's true he's physically beaten, is get in line or get hurt.

[Underdog]

Weapon of Mass Distraction



(how 'bout that economy?)

[DirkFTW]

Before criticizing the secret service agents, we should first walk a mile in their shoes.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by DirkFTW

Before criticizing the secret service agents, we should first walk a mile in their shoes.

[rabbitproof]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Weapon of Mass Distraction



(how 'bout that economy?)

Oh for rep to be working.....

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Get outta here. Personally, I don't see a man throwing a shoe at me as an attack. If we disagree there, we'll never agree on this issue..

well, if you're so sure that's how the world works, why don't you test it out. Go throw some things at people speaking in public and see what happens.

[Flacolaco]

I heard a rumor that Nolan Ryan invited that guy to camp to try out for the bull pen.

[Arne]

Finally the game is out there:
http://play.sockandawe.com/

I managed 10 in my third try.

From the website: "21.000.000 shoes have been successfully thrown into George W. Bush's face"

[mavsontnt]

Even with a broken arm, this guy could pitch better than anybody on the Rangers !!

[Silk Smoov]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

well, if you're so sure that's how the world works, why don't you test it out. Go throw some things at people speaking in public and see what happens.

Better yet, tell him to just stand there in front of the AAC, and let me throw my size 13 shoes at him...Then, after I hit him with it and his nose is broke, then tell him him he cant press charges because I did not attack him. Tell him to tell the police the exact thing, because for some reason the police will say I attacked this guy..

[DirkFTW]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

well, if you're so sure that's how the world works, why don't you test it out. Go throw some things at people speaking in public and see what happens.

And add a "Don't tase me, bro!" to boot.

[rabbitproof]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fscoetdvIr8

haha.

[Robillion]

If Russians patrolled our streets for years on end, I had civilian relatives that were killed in the homes and labled collateral damage, and Vladmir Puten was at a press conference in the U.S.... I'd throw a shoe at Vladmir Puten.

There are people over there that hate Bush for other reasons than being an Islamic extremist.

That aside... the secret service should have jumped on that much more. Those shoes could have easily been something much more threatening than an insult..

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by Robillion

If Russians patrolled our streets for years on end, I had civilian relatives that were killed in the homes and labled collateral damage, and Vladmir Puten was at a press conference in the U.S.... I'd throw a shoe at Vladmir Puten..

oh good grief. Russians and Putin?
You know there was collateral damage in the revolutionary war. Would you throw a shoe at G. Washington? How about Truman? Churchill? Should Germans and Japanese be throwing shoes at Americans?

[rabbitproof]

Yeah, people die, get over it.

[dude1394]

They like me...they really like me? Journalists....do they actually have a degree for that?

Here's part of the exchange:

Zain Verjee: ...But the United States is so loathed!

Condoleezza Rice: The United States is not loathed. The policies of the United States are sometimes not liked. People don't like that we've had to say hard things and do hard things about terrorism. People don't like that we've spoken fiercely for the right of Israel to defend itself at the same time we've worked for a Palestinian State. But I have to go back. So many people in and around when that incident happened told me how embarrassed they were by the fact that that had happened.

Verjee: Do you regret...

Condoleezza Rice: No. Only that the focus of those who were supposed to be reporting history didn't focus on the historical moment which was- This was the president of the United States in Baghdad, for goodness sakes, with the freely elected prime minister in a show of friendship.

[Robillion]

Just saying.... I understand the guy's anger and why he would want to insult Bush... I may not agree with it and I would definitely not tolerate it if I was a secret service agent, but I understand it.

[Robillion]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

oh good grief. Russians and Putin?
You know there was collateral damage in the revolutionary war. Would you throw a shoe at G. Washington? How about Truman? Churchill? Should Germans and Japanese be throwing shoes at Americans?

You cannot really compare a war of today to any war of the past. Besides.. what I mean is, put yourself in his shoes, then take one of them off and see what you would do with it (if within your culture throwing a shoe was an insult). It doesn't matter if it was collateral damage or not, if a friend of mine was innocently killed for reasons I did not believe in, then I would be pretty pissed off. While the guy should definitely be punished, it is understandable. At least in my eyes. .. Of course it is my view that we shouldn't be putting ourselves in that situation in the first place.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Really? If someone threw a shoe at you tomorrow, would they go to jail? Throwing a shoe at someone is ATTACKING? God forbid if people start throwing their underwear at people.

Like others have said, one, it illustrates secret service sucks and two, it was lucky for Bush the journalist just wanted to insult and not to injure.

If he really has broken arms, democracy is a joke.

So I guess their democracy is NOT a joke now??

Today we learn that those injury reports on the Sadr-loving reporter were bogus.
The AP reported today:

The case's investigating judge has said the journalist was struck about the face and eyes, apparently by security agents who wrestled him to the floor after he hurled his shoes, forcing Bush to duck for cover.

Maitham al-Zeidi was not available to comment on the visit, but another brother, Dhargham, told The Associated Press that he was told the wounds had healed.

[Windmill360]

[MaVs 41 BaLler]

Is there suppose to be a Pikachu?
Also nice the second one hits him.

[mcsluggo]

I like the fact that Bush looks like he is enjoying himself playing dodgeball during this "exchange of ideas".

[GermanDunk]

The shoe-bomber now got honored. This is the statue he recieved. Location: Tikrit

[TrippleT123]

throwing shoes in an Islamic culture is a big insult. its like talking about someones mother here in the US