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dude1394 · 01-14-2009, 11:54 PM

Can be quite a biyatch.

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Wednesday, January 14, 2009
Obama Backtracks On Osama
Remember Barack Obama's famous attack on John McCain, that McCain wasn't willing to go to the cave where Osama bin Laden was hiding: "John McCain likes to say that he'll follow bin Laden to the Gates of Hell - but he won't even go to the cave where he lives." Or during the October 7, 2008 debate: "We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaeda. That has to be our biggest national security priority."

No more. Now, all we have to do is contain bin Laden to his cave, you know, the one McCain wouldn't go to:

Barack Obama last night suggested that removing Osama bin Laden from the battlefield was no longer essential and that America's security goals could be achieved by merely keeping al-Qaeda "on the run".

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"My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him," he said. "But if we have so tightened the noose that he's in a cave somewhere and can't even communicate with his operatives then we will meet our goal of protecting America."

It's beginning to look like we picked Door No. 2, and got the booby prize.

Dirkadirkastan · 01-15-2009, 12:11 AM

Kinda sounds like Bush, honestly.

chumdawg · 01-15-2009, 12:58 AM

What does it matter? Is there anyone more irrelevant than Osama Bin Laden? That jungle monkey doesn't pose any threat to us.

MaVs 41 BaLler · 01-15-2009, 02:18 PM

Osama Bin Laden is my middle name.

nah-vit-ski · 01-18-2009, 10:53 PM

GOTCHA!

ShaggyDirk · 01-19-2009, 02:44 AM

context is a biznit.

92bDad · 01-20-2009, 01:35 PM

http://www.humanevents.com/article.p...&viewID=711319

Some cool and funny stuff...if you are able to have a sense of humor.

Then the replies get pretty crazy...

By the way, I'm doing my best not to pour down on anyone parade today...but dangit, it's tough to keep my trap shut when I completely disagree with the change taking place...but I remind myself, their will be a time and a place to have some polite discourse and fuel the mood for change in 2010!!!

dude1394 · 01-23-2009, 10:23 PM

Obama meets up with reality with warrantless eavesdropping.

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/67325/

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HOPE AND CHANGE! Obama Sides With Bush in Spy Case. “The Obama administration fell in line with the Bush administration Thursday when it urged a federal judge to set aside a ruling in a closely watched spy case weighing whether a U.S. president may bypass Congress and establish a program of eavesdropping on Americans without warrants.” Meet the new boss, yada yada.

UPDATE: A reader points out that not long ago the warrantless eavesdropping program was a sign of incipient fascism. But now it’s hope and change!

Flacolaco · 01-24-2009, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Obama meets up with reality with warrantless eavesdropping.

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/67325/

I have such tired head.

I don't care which party is doing it.

As far as I'm concerned, King Messiah Obama or Dick Mother Effing Cheney or WHOEVER can listen to every single phone conversation I ever have. I have nothing to hide and it keeps my family safer.

TIRED HEAD

mary · 01-24-2009, 01:27 AM

In the words of our founding fathers....

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Ben Franklin:

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Patrick Henry:

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!

Sam Adams:

If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home and leave us in peace. We seek not your council, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

I'll take "Live Free or Die" for 1000 Alex.

Mavdog · 01-24-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Obama meets up with reality with warrantless eavesdropping.

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/67325/

whoops, you are misunderstanding the question. signing on to the case is not endorsing warrantless surveillance.

the question is who should be deciding the security document's release.

"National security officials, not judges, must decide whether private citizens - even those with security clearances - are entitled to see classified material, Justice Department lawyers said in a filing Monday night."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&sn=029&sc=341

GermanDunk · 01-24-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Flacolaco

I have such tired head.

I don't care which party is doing it.

As far as I'm concerned, King Messiah Obama or Dick Mother Effing Cheney or WHOEVER can listen to every single phone conversation I ever have. I have nothing to hide and it keeps my family safer.

TIRED HEAD

Remeber ! But you can´t listen to what Dick has to say..

Dim499 · 01-24-2009, 05:37 PM

anyway... go freedom!

Dirkadirkastan · 01-24-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Flacolaco

I have such tired head.

I don't care which party is doing it.

As far as I'm concerned, King Messiah Obama or Dick Mother Effing Cheney or WHOEVER can listen to every single phone conversation I ever have. I have nothing to hide and it keeps my family safer.

TIRED HEAD

It's not just your phone conversations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reFy1OiYZtE&fmt=18

Ninkobei · 01-25-2009, 08:51 AM

if you supported bush when he did these things then why badmouth obama for doing the same? makes no sense. also, since mccain would have done the same thing I dont understand how one can criticize obama for doing it.

Underdog · 01-25-2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninkobei

if you supported bush when he did these things then why badmouth obama for doing the same? makes no sense. also, since mccain would have done the same thing I dont understand how one can criticize obama for doing it.

Partisan politics: why think for yourself when you can believe in false-opposites instead?

dude1394 · 01-25-2009, 07:35 PM

I"m not criticizing obama for doing it at all, it's the right thing to do. What I am criticizing him is the demagoguery during the campaign.

And conversely his voters who criticized dubya for it but now...well okey-dokey and are engaging in hypocrisy.

ShaggyDirk · 01-25-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

I"m not criticizing obama for doing it at all, it's the right thing to do. What I am criticizing him is the demagoguery during the campaign.

And conversely his voters who criticized dubya for it but now...well okey-dokey and are engaging in hypocrisy.

That is just like saying "my daddy could beat up your daddy." Who cares what "the voters" are engaging in?

dude1394 · 01-25-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaggyDirk

That is just like saying "my daddy could beat up your daddy." Who cares what "the voters" are engaging in?

Well last time I looked the "voters" are the folks on this board, i.e. you for example.

dude1394 · 01-25-2009, 09:56 PM

Obama continues to "meet" reality, by tossing aside his campaign promises.

http://volokh.com/posts/1232821591.shtml

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Obama to Republicans on Stimulus Package: I Won:

True, but Obama won by, among other things, promising a net decrease in federal spending. Here he is during the third debate: "what I've done throughout this campaign is to propose a net spending cut.... What I want to emphasize ... is that I have been a strong proponent of pay-as-you-go. Every dollar that I've proposed, I've proposed an additional cut so that it matches."

Obama would have a much better case for Republican deference to his spending plans if he had actually campaigned in favor of the most massive increase in federal spending, ever, instead of as a budget-cutter.

Mavdog · 01-26-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Obama continues to "meet" reality, by tossing aside his campaign promises.

http://volokh.com/posts/1232821591.shtml

can you show just how obama has reneged on the campaign promise? as his administration has yet to propose a budget it seems that the accusation he's "tossing aside his campaignm promises" in regard to spending reductions/pay as you go have no basis in truth....not that truth has been an obstacle that his critics seem to be concerned with mind you, but some of us still value it.

dude1394 · 01-26-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavdog

can you show just how obama has reneged on the campaign promise? as his administration has yet to propose a budget it seems that the accusation he's "tossing aside his campaignm promises" in regard to spending reductions/pay as you go have no basis in truth....not that truth has been an obstacle that his critics seem to be concerned with mind you, but some of us still value it.

So you think he's going to cut 1 trillion dollars out of the budget?

Mavdog · 01-26-2009, 01:59 PM

is the proposal to spend an additional $1 trillion? don't believe that is the case....