Former Mavs (2019) thread

[Jack.Kerr]

Why is it people always resort to "per 36" fantasy stats to bolster an argument for a player who can't get actual playing time? Why don't people just make a realistic assessment of what's keeping a player off the floor? I still remeber the abusrdity from several years ago of people projecting Raef LaFrentz's numbers greatness on a Per 48 basis; problem was, of course, that he was fouling at a rate that would limit him to maybe 31-32 minutes.

Doing a quick eyeball of Jackson's numbers over the last 3 years, shows that when he gets ~30mpg, he averages ~10ppg. Only when you look at his absolute best scoring games does he manage to average 15-ish; can't necessarily tell to what extent these were garbage numbers in blowouts. He's got a very nice (if somewhat old-mannish) 3-pt shot, and a variety of soft-touch shots. The 3-pointer looks a little low and a little slow, and remains to be seen if he can get it off consistently against tight defense.

So what keeps him out of the starting lineup, and off the floor? Defensive inattention? Lethargy on the defensive end of the floor? Slow-footedness? Physical weakness? Take your pick.

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

per 36 stats this year

Harrison Barnes
17pts
5reb
1 steal
1.4 turnovers
50% FG
39% from three
80% from FT

Jackson
18points
7rebounds
1 steal
0.6 turnovers
50% FG
47% from three
82% from FT

I mean Jackson is criminally underplayed, but he seems to be at least on par even if we just traded Jackson for Barnes. Jackson is a better three point shooter, better rebounder, turns it over less, and shoots freethrows better.

Add Wright who we got via the $$ we saved, and I'd say we won that Barnes trade personally.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Jack.Kerr

Doing a quick eyeball of Jackson's numbers over the last 3 years, shows that when he gets ~30mpg, he averages ~10ppg.

I mean if you are going to make up/cherrypick stats and not post them, I might as well answer with real stats. Two years ago he was a rookie. Surely we don't want to judge him on those. Last year he spent most of the season with another team and then only got a few games with the new team.

When Jackson plays 20+ minutes this season (the only full season with the Mavs)
14.3pts, 4.0reb, 0.7ast
57% from the field. 53% from three
73.5% TS%

Source:
https://www.basketball-reference.com...01/splits/2020

[Jack.Kerr]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

When Jackson plays 20+ minutes this season (the only full season with the Mavs)
14.3pts, 4.0reb, 0.7ast
57% from the field. 53% from three
73.5% TS%

You mean all three (3) of those games? The blowout wins against GSW (+48), MEM (+16) and CLE (+42)? The games where his scoring out put was 7, 17, and 19? Those three (3) games?

If you're making an ironic observation about 'cherry-picked' stats, ....well done!

And if not, .....well done! /s

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Jack.Kerr

You mean all three (3) of those games? The blowout wins against GSW (+48), MEM (+16) and CLE (+42)? The games where his scoring out put was 7, 17, and 19? Those three (3) games?

If you're making an ironic observation about 'cherry-picked' stats, ....well done!

And if not, .....well done! /s

I'm sure your stats from his rookie year in Sacramento are much more telling /s

[Jack.Kerr]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I'm sure your stats from his rookie year in Sacramento are much more telling /s

Here's a little exercise for you: Take his top 20 scoring and top 20 usage games from all 3 years, and average the averages. Tip: The rookie year helps him. (Feel free to bill someone for your time.)

Also, please note that Jax's 3-pointer in the last 30 seconds of the PELS blowout raised his PER 36 Projection for the game to 11.25 ppg. Otherwise, he'd have been at 4.5.