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Old 10-22-2008, 12:03 PM   #1
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Default Political talk - confusion within the forum - is Obama or McCain to blame?

As this pertains to ONLY the Political section of Dallas-Mavs forums, I am reaching out across the aisle to my other political posters. Below is a thread that I started which was moved to a much less viewed or participated section of the board...so in an attempt to keep this on topic...this is about our Political views.

It appears that our attacks are based on our support for either McCain/Palin or Obama/Biden.

As such our posts have lead themselves into a direction of personal attacks and levels of humor that many don't find humorous...even to the extent of being offensive.

So, how can we resolve our ability to post and have a good healthy discussion about politics without resorting to offensive discussions about ones gender, race, religion, beliefs, views, ethnicity, culture, language, sexual preference, etc...

How can we get equal treatment for all those offended? Especially here in this political forum. This is about politics after all if one race is offended at the use of one word, then is it safe to safe that if any individual uses that word it is offensive and should not be used at all. Can we also agree that using a derogatory term to describe any individual, White, Yellow, Red, Brown or any other color that it should not be used.

Then do we need to also define what words are considered vulger...who decides this boundary. If a political cartoon uses the word "Bitch" is this not vulger and grounds for removal.

Sure this topic has hit a hot button with me and this is perhaps a bit of a rant, but I am looking for equal respect to all, regardless of ethnic, sex, age, religion, or other labels. This is about tolerance, then tolerate all or nothing at all???

The politics behind this topic are clear and the divide that is taking place is Liberal versus Conservative. The middle of the road just wants to keep the peace, while the Left and Right want to stand up for what they believe in.

How can one dictate that what is written on this Political Board is such that nobody reading is offended.

Should one just walk away from a board, or should one actively engage in the board to create CHANGE.

Should one just "Get Over It" or should one draw a line and help to facilitate an environment of mutual respect where neither side is stepped on.

Surely in the other DM forums, we see a bit of mutual respect or tolerance...but here, where politics are near and dear to ones heart we are forced to speak our minds like on where else.

Are all views tolerated in the Political Message Forum of Dallas-Mavs.com?

Are those who disagree with me willing to acknowledge as I have their own involvement in the spiraling down of this section in the Political board?

Go ahead friends, have at it...open the discussion...perhaps then we can get away from the crap we are hearing about the candidates and eventually move away from political talk all together!!!

Again, I bid you a great day!!!

Below is the original thread...but I suppose it was not "Political" enough - now I have added the political spin to this thread...I'm looking forward to your comments.


Full disclosure time:

I have posted what amounts to some offensive material to some on this board. Namely recently elluding to the use of a controversial term.

For that I apologize.

Now that we have that settled, I noticed that we have a sleu of posts that are offensive on this board and I was curious, is the enforcement of the board rules applied to everyone or is only selective enforcement.

For a refresher, here are the rules for this board that I copied from the opening thread in this section:

The following will not be tolerated(resulting in your post being deleted):
1. Cursing at a poster.
2. Name calling. (this includes calling someone an idiot/libidiot/moron/etc...)
3. Posting a reply after you were called a name in which you call the offending poster a name as well.
4. Quoting a post in which any of the above rules were broken (If you want to respond to a valid point of a post that contains an offense, just edit out the offense from the quote before you post your reply.)


Now personally I don't care about personal post attacks, heck I don't care about name calling. But when I see some posts removed and others not, I see rules that are selectively enforced and thus the perception that this board or those who govern/moderate this board have an agenda that is tainted to their own personal views.

I'm calling this board out for it's obvious hate filled dialect...Yes, I am calling myself out as I have participated in this way on some of the various threads.

I would urge the moderators to view these threads from the view of those being victimized.

Beit Liberal, Conservative, Faith Based, Non-Faith Based, Cultural Background, or any other "Label" that we put on someone or something that becomes the Butt of the joke or reference within a post.

There must be -0- tolerance for violations, but currently there appears to be selective tolerance which only serves to fuel the emotions behind the negative spin that various posters, including myself have taken.

At the end of the day, for the most part we are all honorable people with good intensions, but I do see that we are all frustrated with what we see taking place. Regardless of which side of a debate that we are on, we see the other side as evil and a destructive force to our way of life. Thus we are very sensitive and defensive to our values.

I believe someone has stated that what we joke about with our buddies at the water cooler is not what should be posted on this board. I actually agree with this statement and I wonder if the moderators will do a better job of screening each and every thread...or if it is time to take a drastic stand and shut down the Political Board in order to turn posters attention to Mav related topics and leave this type of discussion to another board?

By the way, I am not calling any specific individual out, we all know who your are...I have on this post called myself out for participating.

I'm curious to see if anyone else is willing to humble themselves and admit that they too are a part of the problem, then perhaps we can do something with our own respective characters and posting abilities in order to enrich this section and make it a productive part of this board.

Now that would be Change that I could support.

Go ahead blast away...who's human enough to admit their part in this fiasco?
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Old 10-22-2008, 12:41 PM   #2
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:43 PM   #5
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You might look into getting some thicker skin.

Now that's the pot calling the kettle...wait am I aloud to use that word? So what would a politically correct Pot call a kettle?

I'm starting to feel like Alf ... "Ha...I kill me"
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