02-09-2012, 08:19 PM
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Hypothetically speaking, which scenario would you rather do?
July 2012: Dwight Howard is not traded by the deadline, signs with us for the maximum here. We can afford around $15 million more.
A. Sign Deron Williams for as much as we can afford and build the team depth through league minimum veterans
B. Sign Nash (although at age 38, still playing at a ridiculously high level) for cheap and build the depth of the team with some money to work with.
C. Retain JET as our PG after Kidd retires and re-sign our current players with the money we have remaining
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02-09-2012, 08:25 PM
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D. Dont waste your time with this useless thread
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02-09-2012, 08:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by adonis
July 2012: Dwight Howard is not traded by the deadline, signs with us for the maximum here. We can afford around $15 million more.
A. Sign Deron Williams for as much as we can afford and build the team depth through league minimum veterans
B. Sign Nash (although at age 38, still playing at a ridiculously high level) for cheap and build the depth of the team with some money to work with.
C. Retain JET as our PG after Kidd retires and re-sign our current players with the money we have remaining
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02-09-2012, 08:30 PM
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Honestly I think with Kidd probably slowing down quite a bit...we have to look really hard to get D Will here and then make an all out push for Howard. I think Dirk will still be able to carry a big load for the team and D will will instantly be able to carry as much.
Then you look to add around Dirk and D will. Keep guys like Wright and Yi IMO. Roddy and VC should be around. I want to see Jet back...so hopefully they can agree on something cheap.Get a few more veterans and even if we dont get Howard...with Williams runninf the show and not to forget Marion and Haywood would still be here...this team would be very dangerous.
Now if we have
Howard
Dirk
Williams.............it gets crazy trying to fill out the rest of the roster IMO
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02-09-2012, 08:44 PM
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I want Dwight first, D-Will only if we can't get Dwight, and under no circumstances do I want three max or near-max players on the roster. I prefer quality depth.
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02-09-2012, 09:13 PM
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A, but B is interesting. Howard is the only guy in the league that could possibly help a team overcome the defense Nash plays.
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02-09-2012, 09:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spreedom
I want Dwight first, D-Will only if we can't get Dwight, and under no circumstances do I want three max or near-max players on the roster. I prefer quality depth.
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How many quality players can you really add for what you would pay DWill though?
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02-09-2012, 09:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by adonis
July 2012: Dwight Howard is not traded by the deadline, signs with us for the maximum here. We can afford around $15 million more.
A. Sign Deron Williams for as much as we can afford and build the team depth through league minimum veterans
B. Sign Nash (although at age 38, still playing at a ridiculously high level) for cheap and build the depth of the team with some money to work with.
C. Retain JET as our PG after Kidd retires and re-sign our current players with the money we have remaining
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I dont see Howard playing for us, he will probably chase the paper. Even if he wants to win he essentially wont be willing to play in Dallas. I dont know about Deron Williams but he would be a great fit on this team.
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02-10-2012, 08:24 AM
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A, no question. You will be a contender in the next 5 years with those 2, regardless of how long Dirk plays.
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02-10-2012, 08:53 AM
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Nash can't play defense, JET play like Nelson at PG, so only A of course if Howard sign first.
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02-10-2012, 12:36 PM
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Not that we'd be interested in Brandon Jennings, but just read he wants to leave after his rookie deal is done......looks like the Paul precendence post CBA is setting up to fail. If small market teams want to keep their players, make rookie contracts a max of 5 years with 2 team option years. Especially with a lot of the one and dones, some players have not even hit their primes by the time their rookie deal is done. I think there's some leeway in if you want draft eligibles to be 2 years post grad class, then you pull one year off the rookie length, if you leave as is, lengthen the rookie deals a year and tack on a player option on the 6th year, and maybe a mutual option for the 7th year.
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02-10-2012, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kidd Karma
Not that we'd be interested in Brandon Jennings, but just read he wants to leave after his rookie deal is done......looks like the Paul precendence post CBA is setting up to fail. If small market teams want to keep their players, make rookie contracts a max of 5 years with 2 team option years. Especially with a lot of the one and dones, some players have not even hit their primes by the time their rookie deal is done. I think there's some leeway in if you want draft eligibles to be 2 years post grad class, then you pull one year off the rookie length, if you leave as is, lengthen the rookie deals a year and tack on a player option on the 6th year, and maybe a mutual option for the 7th year.
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Interesting thoughts here, I have to say.
But please not Brandon Jennings, despite that 55pt game in his rookie season he hasn't done much yet to impress me. Despite averaging 15 shots/game, he's a career .387 shooter, that's pretty bad IMO. I don't need a ballhog in Dallas. Just my opinion.
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02-10-2012, 01:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportstudi
Interesting thoughts here, I have to say.
But please not Brandon Jennings, despite that 55pt game in his rookie season he hasn't done much yet to impress me. Despite averaging 15 shots/game, he's a career .387 shooter, that's pretty bad IMO. I don't need a ballhog in Dallas. Just my opinion.
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Oh yea, no way, the guy's a chucker. Me, me, me type player, I'm actually surprised he hasn't already demanded out, with taskmaster Skiles in charge there.
But with him coming out, now, owners wanted a deal to keep the small market viable, in cases like this, then you have to extend rookie deals out longer to keep the player longer. Players won't have anything to do with this because the agents don't like it, free agency post poned another 2 seasons. If I were the players, I'd rather give them this, then putting in a hard cap. I mean if this is what the owners are crying about, playing on a level field, then this is an opportunity to keep your players, draft picks get a bit more value, just like the NFL picks skyrocketed with the rookie scale.
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02-10-2012, 01:40 PM
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Jennings is nothing special though he has improved this year, the question is has he really improved or has he just been lucky to make more jumpers and will revert back to form of earlier in his career? He isn't very good either way.
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02-10-2012, 04:13 PM
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I hate all this young "point guards" shooting 39-42% combined with 5-6 APG and 3TO
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02-10-2012, 04:39 PM
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Aw, too much hate for BJ. Dude has to get better %s but his best teammate is... uh.. Stephen Jackson? (Bogut is super injury prone)
Plus, he's 22. I'd consider him as a 2nd/3rd banana to Dwight/Dirk if he comes for a Rondo-type contract.
That said, A is far and away the best option. B is interesting but not realistic. Dwight won't come if Deron won't.
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02-10-2012, 09:23 PM
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Definitely A, I'd love to bring back JET though. Anyway that we could re-sign him as well? He has said he wants to retire a Mav and wants his jersey in the rafters, so I think we could get a hometown discount with him.
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