05-13-2009, 11:48 PM
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I'm proud of the fight the MAvs showed.
No such a thing as moral victories but I appreciate the in season progress
Keep in mind in November we looked like a 35 win team. Literally, we looked like a 35 win team. The early part of November at least and the 2-7 start.
Still through January we looked like a 45 win team that would be quickly dispatched by the Lakers in the 1st round or miss the playoffs.
But the improvement from February on, especially when healthy was noticeable and was a pleasant end to the season. 50 wins, 1 playoff series win. Part of the reason I'm not that upset is how bad we looked at times in the regular season, but I'm still proud Let's hope the Mavs can somehow acquire some pieces next year to reopen the championship window
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05-14-2009, 12:04 AM
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Good showing overall Mavs. Thanks for not quitting and making it a game midway through the 4th. Denver just hit the big shots, and without a healthy Josh and with Kidd and Terry playing like sh*t the whole postseason, we didn't really have a chance to pull.
Dirk and Josh can still carry this team as our top two scorers, and I really like what Barea and Bass bring us. Everyone else just seems like too much of a liability out on the floor. We need a little bit of a makeover. Should be an interesting offseason. God I hope Kidd is not our starting point guard next year.
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05-14-2009, 12:10 AM
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The team got stronger as the season went on and were a scrappy out. that denver team is pretty good I think. We still need bass, jjb and jet to grow about 5 inches. That's really what our problem is imo...a pretty short backcourt and we still don't have any kind of guy besides dirk who can get to the line consistently.
I'm not sure if josh is that (I expect not although I thought he played about as well as he has since he's been in dallas) if you consider his ankle situation.
The dirkster had a heck of a playoff run..and he lived on the blocks (I'm not sure what else you want your power forward to do). We just don't have enough penetrators and/or taller defensive guys. We are just too short in those positions.
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05-14-2009, 12:32 AM
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All and all, I think it was a good season. The Mavs don't have the horses to compete for a championship right now. They have the superstar, but the cast around him just isn't what you need to compete with the 3-4 elite teams.
Slamming the Spurs around like rag dolls in the first round will carry me through the offseason.
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05-14-2009, 12:35 AM
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and now begins the long wait for more mavericks basketball
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05-14-2009, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ghazi
I'm proud of the fight the MAvs showed.
No such a thing as moral victories ...
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what ghazi wrote. Plus, for me I'm especially pleased with that little postseason run, as I joined you fellow Mav- fans (right after their finals-appearance) in the 2006/07 season. So this year was the first time I witnessed them having at least little success in advancing to the second round in a repectable fashion. Let's go from here.
And now I feel you guys a little more after experiencing what it's like being screwed by refs in the postseaon. I'd rather have passed on that and instead watched some more playoff games.
Other than ghazi I spot a tiny moral victory in the fact that we, unlike NO, never let up against a furious Denver-team. Mavs were always searching for a way to win, even after being down 0:3. We didn't get embarrassed, whereas the Hornets just sucked badly. I think I still hate them the most.
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05-14-2009, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mavErika
Other than ghazi I spot a tiny moral victory in the fact that we, unlike NO, never let up against a furious Denver-team. Mavs were always searching for a way to win, even after being down 0:3. We didn't get embarrassed, whereas the Hornets just sucked badly. I think I still hate them the most.
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This is probably a testament to jkiddo I expect. The mavs were grittier and stronger of mind than before. Also cannot discount Carlisle...He brought some real coaching chops and was able to help the team win games instead of just gripping that the team wasn't playing hard enough with his system.
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05-14-2009, 01:10 AM
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Yeah, J Kidd's awful play is why we didn't get swept...
I know what you meant, but I had to go there.
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05-14-2009, 01:54 AM
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Melo admits to lucky shot.
“I don’t know how he hit that shot,” Billups said.
Anthony said it was pure luck.
“Yeah, that was a spark,” Anthony said. “If I told you I knew it was going in, I’d be lying to you. That was a lucky shot. It went in. I think that shot right there sparked the momentum for us.”
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05-14-2009, 01:56 AM
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mavs... tonight i drink for you.
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05-14-2009, 02:04 AM
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That was a much better paced game then game 3. Not stopping every 3 seconds for a foul. Like you all have said, Dirk was Dirk, beastly. As a Nuggets fan its been fun watching this team grow through the playoffs, especially Melo. JR is still a knucklehead, but when he is on he is a special player.
Sorry I can't comment on who you should all keep, but obviously Dirk needs to be given the key to the city. Other then that, I don't really know.
Good series Mavs fans, good luck to you all next year!
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05-14-2009, 02:09 AM
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What is up with J.R Smith's antics? After every shot he makes it is like he made a buzzard beater of a game 7?
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05-14-2009, 02:26 AM
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Dirk & Bass... never been prouder. Warriors. You guys deserve as much credit as you can possibly get.
Josh... way to go fighting through the pain. You showed heart.
RIP Mavs. We've loved you, but if you're the same team next year I'm out.
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05-14-2009, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mavs777
What is up with J.R Smith's antics? After every shot he makes it is like he made a buzzard beater of a game 7?
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He is young and dumb... Hopefully he will snap out of that some day... He could be an allstar if he gets his head on right...
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05-14-2009, 05:02 AM
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Well, there goes another season. This is not as bad as the last three years, but changes need to be made. There is no reason to have a veteran team if you don't have a shot to win it all and with the current roster, we clearly don't.
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05-14-2009, 07:46 AM
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I know I got caught up in wanting to be in the WCF, but being labeled as the 9th best team in the west most of the year. Having everyone talk about or window closing and being passed in the west, and then to end up playing 5 more games then NO, Portland, Utah, and SA, and 10 more games then the Suns says alot about this team.
And lets not forget that our owner has already said he plans full well to give a green light to making changes this off season regardless of the economy, something most of the teams in the league are not doing.
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05-14-2009, 07:54 AM
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I think that we have played well in this P.O.! All of us knew that we had no chance to win the title but we have done all to win!
Thank to Mavericks! Good seanson
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05-14-2009, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by croco
Well, there goes another season. This is not as bad as the last three years, but changes need to be made. There is no reason to have a veteran team if you don't have a shot to win it all and with the current roster, we clearly don't.
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You are wrigth! Maybe same players must be changed if we want to improve this season! And I'm sure that Dirk must be ours team player also in the following years
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05-14-2009, 08:08 AM
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I look forward to the changes to come.
Good try Mavs.
Dirk just could not do enough to cover for the rest of the team, Jet sucked... again.
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05-14-2009, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mavErika
Other than ghazi I spot a tiny moral victory in the fact that we, unlike NO, never let up against a furious Denver-team. Mavs were always searching for a way to win, even after being down 0:3. We didn't get embarrassed, whereas the Hornets just sucked badly. I think I still hate them the most.
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I'd agree except that they were down 3-0 in the first place largely because they gave up in the 4th quarters of games 1 and 2 and completely choked the last few minutes of game 3.
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05-14-2009, 08:25 AM
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Wrong thread. Weird.
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05-14-2009, 08:29 AM
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JET was responsible for me turning off the game last night when he allowed Jr SMith to blow past him and lob up the oop to Martin for the icing on the cake. He and Kidd just can not stay in front of their man. Jet especially.
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05-14-2009, 09:44 AM
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Great Season, love dirk. Hopefully, I can see dirk coming back next season.
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05-14-2009, 09:53 AM
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Great try guys, Im proud of you for not giving up and going out like warriors. That's how its done, see you in the 09-10 season. Get some rest.
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05-14-2009, 09:55 AM
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what an appropriate profile name.
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05-14-2009, 10:06 AM
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Great run, Mavs. Yall served us well.
We either need to come back stronger with a championship worthy roster next season or we need to start rebuilding and trade Dirk somewhere he can win a championship.
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05-14-2009, 10:12 AM
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...we, unlike NO, never let up against a furious Denver-team. Mavs were always searching for a way to win, even after being down 0:3. We didn't get embarrassed, whereas the Hornets just sucked badly.
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straight up
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05-14-2009, 10:19 AM
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If I hear one more person say trade Dirk I am going to explode. First team ALL-NBA. Really get rid of him? Sounds like a good plan. And F rebuilding. you do not win 50 games in this league without a solid team that is only a little bit from being a contender for a championship. Get a grip. What a bunch of spoiled whinny bitches we can be as fans. Somebody call a T-wolves fan and ask them how they feel about rebuilding. They will prob ask you who all is on the t-wolves now and say "I stopped caring when we lost T-Mac" For f$%ks sake did anyone watch the Denver series and see Dirk?
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05-14-2009, 12:18 PM
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If I hear one more person say trade Dirk I am going to explode. First team ALL-NBA. Really get rid of him? Sounds like a good plan. And F rebuilding. you do not win 50 games in this league without a solid team that is only a little bit from being a contender for a championship. Get a grip. What a bunch of spoiled whinny bitches we can be as fans. Somebody call a T-wolves fan and ask them how they feel about rebuilding. They will prob ask you who all is on the t-wolves now and say "I stopped caring when we lost T-Mac" For f$%ks sake did anyone watch the Denver series and see Dirk?
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Dirk should be a Mav for life, just like Bird, and Magic.
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05-14-2009, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MX425
If I hear one more person say trade Dirk I am going to explode. First team ALL-NBA. Really get rid of him? Sounds like a good plan. And F rebuilding. you do not win 50 games in this league without a solid team that is only a little bit from being a contender for a championship. Get a grip. What a bunch of spoiled whinny bitches we can be as fans. Somebody call a T-wolves fan and ask them how they feel about rebuilding. They will prob ask you who all is on the t-wolves now and say "I stopped caring when we lost T-Mac" For f$%ks sake did anyone watch the Denver series and see Dirk?
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I don't believe anyone has suggested trading Dirk because he isn't good enough. Dirk deserves to be on a championship caliber team. If it turns out that we can't provide that then we should look at options of putting him in a place where he can win and start the rebuilding process.
Also, the T-wolves situation is much better now than it would be if they held on to KG. Could you imagine that? A declining KG still stuck on a crummy team? Bad for the team and bad for the player.
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05-14-2009, 01:09 PM
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I don't believe anyone has suggested trading Dirk because he isn't good enough. Dirk deserves to be on a championship caliber team. If it turns out that we can't provide that then we should look at options of putting him in a place where he can win and start the rebuilding process.
Also, the T-wolves situation is much better now than it would be if they held on to KG. Could you imagine that? A declining KG still stuck on a crummy team? Bad for the team and bad for the player.
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It probably is better...but they're going to have to hope for a lot of luck or a lot more help to get in the ballpark of where they were with him. Their prized possession torn his knee up and those are always dicey situations. Modern medicine and etc is great now, but it's still a crapshoot.
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05-14-2009, 01:13 PM
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What is up with J.R Smith's antics? After every shot he makes it is like he made a buzzard beater of a game 7?
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I thought the nuggets toned that crap down quite a bit tonight and were the better team for it. If they go into la or the finals with that crap I hope they get their ass handed to them, because I cannot stand that posing.
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05-14-2009, 01:17 PM
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Dirk should be a Mav for life, just like Bird, and Magic.
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If he wants to be, I'm right there with ya.
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05-14-2009, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirkenstien
I don't believe anyone has suggested trading Dirk because he isn't good enough. Dirk deserves to be on a championship caliber team. If it turns out that we can't provide that then we should look at options of putting him in a place where he can win and start the rebuilding process.
Also, the T-wolves situation is much better now than it would be if they held on to KG. Could you imagine that? A declining KG still stuck on a crummy team? Bad for the team and bad for the player.
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I see what you are saying and have had thoughts on trading Dirk before. I have even been down on Dirks play a few times too this season when he was just launching away and playing poor defense. I may be reading too much into your post about looking at a place to put Dirk so he can win. If the Mavs were gonna move Dirk they are in business to get the most they can for him no matter where he goes. I don't believe that FO should worry about where he gets traded etc.
I agree about Minne, they will get better too. Teams won't stay bad if the owner wants to win at all cost and hires a good GM that will make moves and knows how to put a solid team together and over time continue to add the RIGHT pieces to it.
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05-14-2009, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirkenstien
I don't believe anyone has suggested trading Dirk because he isn't good enough. Dirk deserves to be on a championship caliber team. If it turns out that we can't provide that then we should look at options of putting him in a place where he can win and start the rebuilding process.
Also, the T-wolves situation is much better now than it would be if they held on to KG. Could you imagine that? A declining KG still stuck on a crummy team? Bad for the team and bad for the player.
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I don't know man...you like this record? No thanks... I think they would again have been better off keeping him and finding away to get some help. But they are cheap.
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eat that Kenny Smith slash the rest of you tnt/espn prickhouses
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TNT is a total crap. I listened to 103.3, not the TNT TV when watching the game and did not watch the post game show.
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05-14-2009, 02:31 PM
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I don't know man...you like this record? No thanks... I think they would again have been better off keeping him and finding away to get some help. But they are cheap.
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I don't kow if their record would be much different if you undo that trade. Then the only difference is that instead of having a crummy record with a young stud to build around you have a crummy record with an aging star who will dwindle in value.
They're young but their team is starting to round out with talent and they would be doing much better if they had drafted better with the picks they've had over the last two drafts.
I do get your point, though. The last thing I would want to do is trade Dirk and I believe we may have enough pieces to get this team back on the right track and hopefully avoid that even being an option, but if it comes down to it where we know there is no way we can get back to that championship level by putting pieces around Dirk then it may be something we have to look at doing.
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05-14-2009, 02:56 PM
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Um....if you guys are looking to trade Dirk we'll give you K-Mart for him.
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05-15-2009, 05:23 AM
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We've loved you, but if you're the same team next year I'm out.
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Sometimes I wish I could give up, but I will be back next year no matter who we put on the floor. I expect most true fans fill the same way.
How many franchises wish they had the success the Mavs have had? Where 50 win seasons are as common has the bleach in most blondes hair.
Thank you Mavs for showing true grit this year. Maybe next year we can win that all elusive dream. Just know that I will be hear cheering you on. Go Mavs!!!!
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