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DevinHarriswillstart · 11-08-2013, 10:31 PM

Just stop responding to Cadbane (aka ghostofadammorrison)...the guy is a douche that pretty much pisses anyone and everyone off.

This was a team loss. The team is mediocre so far. But hey, six games, so there is still plenty of hope.

Popeye · 11-08-2013, 10:35 PM

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What a poorly played game by MOST of the Mavs squad.

Rick has his work cut out for him.

Unfortunately, part of that work will be finding Dirk's desire to score.

Dirk's always been an as needed scorer, and it's taking him some time to realize he needs to score on this team. I think the Laker game kinda had him thinking he could just be a flow player. This has happened before early in the year where he goes over board trying to get the new guys involved. I think his competitiveness will take over and he'll start being the focal point.

Sportstudi · 11-08-2013, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Just stop responding to Cadbane (aka ghostofadammorrison)...the guy is a douche that pretty much pisses anyone and everyone off.

This was a team loss. The team is mediocre so far. But hey, six games, so there is still plenty of hope.

Read what I wrote on the bottom of page 3. I'm 100 percent sure it's CadBane. The worst idiot DM has ever seen. Completely blinded in his own world. Just a pure numbnut (sry Mods).

I've put him now on my pest list. Don't need to read his stupidity again.

markus1234 · 11-08-2013, 10:36 PM

And BTW, let's face it. Our offense is actually OK (despide Dirk playing like crap). We lose games with our defense. With our D we have no chance to reach the playoffs. Period.

Teams are too talented and too athletic. Even the bad teams are loaded at PG and/or C right now. There are lots of young and athletic players.

kg_veteran · 11-08-2013, 10:38 PM

Dirk just doesn't seem to have much intensity. That doesn't bode well.

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Melonhead · 11-08-2013, 10:41 PM

Dirks getting old. Got a child to take care of now, married, and looking retirement dead in the eye (based on his play thus far)

Popeye · 11-08-2013, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by markus1234

And BTW, let's face it. Our offense is actually OK (despide Dirk playing like crap). We lose games with our defense. With our D we have no chance to reach the playoffs. Period.

Teams are too talented and too athletic. Even the bad teams are loaded at PG and/or C right now. There are lots of young and athletic players.

Good point about our offense actually being okay. Our defense was bad and Minny is actually a very good offensive team, and they played well.

LonghornDub · 11-08-2013, 10:43 PM

Adam Morrison died? That sux. RIP, little buddy.

Popeye · 11-08-2013, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Dirks getting old. Got a child to take care of now, married, and looking retirement dead in the eye (based on his play thus far)

I think everybody's jumping to conclusions based on early season games where he's playing with 9 new teammates.

jleefilled · 11-08-2013, 10:48 PM

I think it would be wise if we all would give this team more time before we start jumping to conclusions. Dirk has always been, foremost, a team player. He has something like 9 new teammates. This game was very close until the last minute or so. Dirk and the Mavs are still trying to find out who they are and what works best.

In 2011, Dirk knew he was option 1a, b and c. Right now, he, Carlisle, and the rest of the team are just trying to figure out what is what. I pretty much like what I see with this mix of talent. I think when this group develops some chemistry -- with perhaps a tweak or two before the trade deadline -- they could cause some problems for some of the best teams in the league.

I guess I don't see what most are seeing as far as drop off for Dirk. Maybe I'm a homer, but the guy looks to be moving fine to me. I just think he is by nature a player that allows the pecking order of a team to develop naturally. By the end of the season, I'm pretty sure he'll be back to being at least option 1a and 1b when it comes to crunch time.

Vinsanity · 11-08-2013, 10:51 PM

I hate how I always find myself saying this after a loss, but the refs completely ruined the game. I counted 6 different times when Ellis drove to the basket, got hacked, and there was no call. Also when Crowder got that offensive rebound and got elbowed in the face, and there was no call. It looked like he was spitting up blood after that play. We had ZERO free throw attempts in the second half, which says it all. Every game nowadays it seems like the home team gets a huge advantage with the calls... And what a coincidence, the Mavs are 3-0 at home and 0-3 on the road this season. I think these refs are scared to call fouls on the home team because they don't want to get booed. If the officiating was even remotely equal in this game, I say we easily win.

markus1234 · 11-08-2013, 10:54 PM

Dou you think we will get much better as the season progresses ?

I doubt it.

IMO one should not forget that right now players are excited to play with each other. There is kind of a honeymoon period right now. Last season it was the same. We played our best basketball very early in the season....and in April when Dirk was 100%.

But this season the longer it goeas the older Dirk, Marion and Carter will be. I do not expect them to play that much better in April. It is what it is. Once they realize how bad we are, Dalembert, Blair, Carter and co. may even check out completely and think about next season already.

Right now Dirk, Duncan, Garnett, Gasol, Pierce and co are looking really like a "past" generation. For Dirk it is actually a little bit too early.

GhostOfAdamMorrison · 11-08-2013, 11:06 PM

I'm just curious why everyone seems to be furious over Dirk, yet seem to have no issue with our starting SG scoring 23 points on 24 shots? Curious.

And did someone really try and fault a 35 year-old Dirk for not matching a prime Kevin Love?

You people really need a reality check. Dirk isn't going to score 25 PPG. He isn't going to take 20 shots a game. He is going to spread the floor and give guys easy looks off of the PnR and his spacing. He is going to score at an efficient clip. He's doing a great job at both things. You want more? Tough. You're not going to get it. I would like to see him put up a few more shots, but part of that is on the coaching staff. They really aren't drawing up plays for him.

The biggest problem with this team is the defense.

Samurai · 11-08-2013, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Popeye

Dirk's always been an as needed scorer, and it's taking him some time to realize he needs to score on this team. I think the Laker game kinda had him thinking he could just be a flow player. This has happened before early in the year where he goes over board trying to get the new guys involved. I think his competitiveness will take over and he'll start being the focal point.

I see it more as an experiment. Give Ellis the chance prove that the team can win with with him as the go to guy. (Does Dallas have any choice?) When that fails, attempt to use him in a complementary role. (As if there is much of a chance of THAT working out.)

Aggie E · 11-09-2013, 12:24 AM

Devin Harris might help with the defense. Also would be another guy that can get to the basket

some1nw · 11-09-2013, 12:45 AM

after all, devin harris have it all

Melonhead · 11-09-2013, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Popeye

I think everybody's jumping to conclusions based on early season games where he's playing with 9 new teammates.

I am most definitely jumping to conclusions way too early, but it was such a long offseason, and Im ready for some winning again :/. I just want to see growth, winning is still important though.

yahyes · 11-09-2013, 01:04 AM

Well.. Calderon looks to have gotten his role at shooting threes more.

JeffViggiano · 11-09-2013, 04:46 AM

ok guys a loss it's a loss...but we were without vince,wright and harris and the refs in the second half were in home version.

we need time,of course,i think that we could wait 2-3 months for judge this team...trust in rick

oilfieldtrash · 11-09-2013, 08:12 AM

Euroball only works in Europe. Especially doesn't help that they like to sign old euroball players.

Kante · 11-09-2013, 08:22 AM

24 shots is just too much for Ellis, when he is not hot or whatever. There was a rushed three early in the clock and two drives to the basket where he neded to find the open man but decided to try his luck (Just 3 bad shots off the top of my head). Hopefully RC can get "into" him, but i trust him in that department.

It looked like a night when most of the guys did not have "it" (Dalembert e.g.).

Aggie E · 11-09-2013, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffViggiano

ok guys a loss it's a loss...but we were without vince,wright and harris and the refs in the second half were in home version.

we need time,of course,i think that we could wait 2-3 months for judge this team...trust in rick

Excuses are like butt-holes. Not sure why Wright or Carter would have changed much.

Aggie E · 11-09-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kante

24 shots is just too much for Ellis, when he is not hot or whatever. There was a rushed three early in the clock and two drives to the basket where he neded to find the open man but decided to try his luck (Just 3 bad shots off the top of my head). Hopefully RC can get "into" him, but i trust him in that department.

It looked like a night when most of the guys did not have "it" (Dalembert e.g.).

The blame Ellis deal on this board is funny. He was being aggressive and not getting calls. The defense from the entire team was the problem.

GhostOfAdamMorrison · 11-09-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Aggie E

The blame Ellis deal on this board is funny. He was being aggressive and not getting calls. The defense from the entire team was the problem.

You've got to be joking. You've got almost everyone (yourself included) calling out Dirk when he has an efficient game (not last night, but against OKC), and Ellis has been getting a complete pass for his chucking and turnovers, and you find blaming Ellis funny? No, THAT is funny...

Ellis is now averaging 4.2 turnovers per game. That number needs to get down to 3. His .583% TS is a career high...but it's rapidly decreasing. He's taking 17.5 shots a game. Guess what? That's identical to his FGA in Mill. where he claims he *had* to chuck. What's the excuse here?

sig · 11-09-2013, 05:16 PM

So this team has lost to 3 good teams on the road and the sky is falling. Let's see if they can beat a bad team on the road. Unfortunately, it is a back to back but they should be able to take care of business. Anyway, this team looks like a 7-8-9 seed as most were predicting.

Look out!! Anthony Davis is superstar and The Pelicans are coming, The Pelican are coming.

GhostOfAdamMorrison · 11-09-2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sig

So this team has lost to 3 good teams on the road and the sky is falling. Let's see if they can beat a bad team on the road. Unfortunately, it is a back to back but they should be able to take care of business. Anyway, this team looks like a 7-8-9 seed as most were predicting.

Look out!! Anthony Davis is superstar and The Pelicans are coming, The Pelican are coming.

The Pelicans goofed up by jumping the gun and trading for an overrated, mediocre PG in Holiday and wasting cash on players like Evans and Gordon. Anthony Davis is a future MVP. They should have re-built instead of being a treadmill team.

GhostOfAdamMorrison · 11-21-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Aggie E

Nowitzki is kinda of a meh player at this point. Love is 3x the player nowadays

BUMP. Yeah, kinda "meh" player. Btw, he has a 5% higher TS% than Love right now. Someone ban this fraud.