Now what?

[JustJay]

So Beal is the first player to make 50 million per year.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Chicago got Drummond for 2/6.6. See that's why it's a little irritating that we had to pay 20 to get Javale.

[Amarelooms]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Chicago got Drummond for 2/6.6. See that's why it's a little irritating that we had to pay 20 to get Javale.

Javel lot better and mobile.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by Amarelooms

Javel lot better and mobile.

Yeah, Javale is a much better fit for us than Drummond so I don't mind paying a bit more.

[rimrocker]

We?ll have a pretty big starting lineup if McGee starts.
In fact the shortest player currently on roster is Hardy at 6?4.
Rebounding shouldn?t be a problem this season.

Luka 6?7
THJ/SD 6?6
DFS 6?7
Wood 6?10
McGee 7?0

[Amarelooms]

Originally Posted by rimrocker

We?ll have a pretty big starting lineup if McGee starts.
In fact the shortest player currently on roster is Hardy at 6?4.
Rebounding shouldn?t be a problem this season.

Luka 6?7
THJ/SD 6?6
DFS 6?7
Wood 6?10
McGee 7?0

Bullock is a starter.

[BPo001]

Originally Posted by Amarelooms

Javel lot better and mobile.

Is he $14 million dollars better? I think Drummond is the better rebounder, and probably scorer. Javele has more length and shot blocking/shot altering ability though I think.

I?d probably rather have Drummond at his price if it meant spending bigger money on a wing. Oh well Javele will have a role on this team.

[Amarelooms]

Originally Posted by BPo001

Is he $14 million dollars better? I think Drummond is the better rebounder, and probably scorer. Javele has more length and shot blocking/shot altering ability though I think.

I?d probably rather have Drummond at his price if it meant spending bigger money on a wing. Oh well Javele will have a role on this team.

Disagree - Javel is exactly center we need. Can finish. Rebound / block shots and play d. I?ll pay 6 mil a year for that no problem.

[BPo001]

Originally Posted by Amarelooms

Disagree - Javel is exactly center we need. Can finish. Rebound / block shots and play d. I?ll pay 6 mil a year for that no problem.

My argument was that I?d rather have Drummond at $3million over Javele at $6.6 million or whatever it is. I don?t hate the Javele signing. We needed a big that does what Javele?s skill set provides.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by BPo001

Is he $14 million dollars better? I think Drummond is the better rebounder, and probably scorer. Javele has more length and shot blocking/shot altering ability though I think.

I?d probably rather have Drummond at his price if it meant spending bigger money on a wing. Oh well Javele will have a role on this team.

Yeah I can get behind him being a better fit but 14 million better? Hell no. Hell I think Drummond is a better player but McGee is a better fit.

[BPo001]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Yeah I can get behind him being a better fit but 14 million better? Hell no. Hell I think Drummond is a better player but McGee is a better fit.

This is pretty much exactly how I feel. McGee did get a 3 year deal vs 2 for Drummond. Javele fits out needs more than Drummond does.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Chicago got Drummond for 2/6.6. See that's why it's a little irritating that we had to pay 20 to get Javale.

Well I'll say this....McGee offers more to what the Mavs need than Drummond does. Drummond is not really a shot blocker or contester. He does rebound well. I'm really shocked by the perception of Drummond though. He's not a bad player. I get the league has gone away from centers like him but for 20 minutes a night? you can do far worse.

[BPo001]

Adrian Wojnarowski: Minnesota Timberwolves star Karl-Anthony Towns has agreed on a four-year, $224M super max extension, his agent Jessica Holtz of @CAA_Basketball tells ESPN. Deal begins with the 2024-25 season and delivers Towns? total contract value to six years and $295M. ? via Twitter wojespn

[BPo001]

Adrian Wojnarowski: Memphis Grizzlies star Ja Morant has agreed on a five-year, $193M designated rookie maximum extension that could become worth $231M, his agent Jim Tanner of @_TandemSE tells ESPN. ? via Twitter wojespn

Adrian Wojnarowski: Booker and Towns? representative, Jessica Holtz, is the first female player agent to secure a max contract ? and did it with two super max deals on the same day. Booker and Towns? representative, Jessica Holtz, is the first female player agent to secure a max contract ? and did it with two super max deals on the same day. ? via Twitter wojespn

Damn good for her. I bet she?s partying it up tonight.

[Thespiralgoeson]

https://thesmokingcuban.com/posts/lu...-cup-qualifier

A little positivity after today's shitshow. Luka was phenomenal today against Croatia. That's to be expected of course. But apparently, so was Dragic

Rumored Mavericks free-agent target Goran Dragic starred in his return to action for Slovenia. The 36-year-old guard went off for 19 points, four rebounds, three assists, and one steal in 21.9 minutes of action. Dragic shot eight of 16 from the field, and he looked fantastic in the victory.

Can we please get this guy signed already?

[tap2390]

Great article regarding Javale. He was beloved in PHX for good reason. I think he's a great pickup.

https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2...doctor-ordered


Luka - Dragic? - Ntlikina
DFS - Dinwiddie - Pinson
Bull - THJ - Green - Hardy
Wood - Kleber - Bertans
McGee - Powell

[SMC0007]

Javale is going to be worth the difference in cost vs Drummond, hands down. Drummond would be on skates on switches and he gets lost more than Brunson did on defense. Javale is more capable on switches because of his agility and athleticism. At 34/35 he can still move exceptionally well.

https://youtu.be/LPEKoXUBNVw

[SMC0007]

I'm all for Dragic in this situation. I wasn't dying for him last season when the rumors of him being release started but now we really could use him for all the reasons folks have mentioned before.

If Hardy is going to be playing, Dragic and Luka are really good to watch uo close and soak up all the reads.

[BPo001]

Shams Charania: Free agent Gary Payton II is finalizing a three-year, $28 million deal with the Portland Trail Blazers, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. ? via Twitter ShamsCharania

[BPo001]

Shams Charania: New Orleans Pelicans star Zion Williamson is nearing a five-year rookie max contract extension worth up to $231 million, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. The commitment will take Williamson?s new deal through the 2027-28 season. ? via Twitter ShamsCharania

[saclare]

Ayo are y'all really thinking Drummond is the better player?!

Have you watched him at all in recent years? The guy is a fantastic rebounder and that's about it. He gets most of his point production from put backs and chippy shots after rebounds. Guy is absolutely terrible at defense and has stone hands.

McGee provides everything he does, but adds switchable defense, shot blocking, and excellent PNR skills. Keep Drummond far from this team and how the Mavs play lol

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by saclare

Ayo are y'all really thinking Drummond is the better player?!

Have you watched him at all in recent years? The guy is a fantastic rebounder and that's about it. He gets most of his point production from put backs and chippy shots after rebounds. Guy is absolutely terrible at defense and has stone hands.

McGee provides everything he does, but adds switchable defense, shot blocking, and excellent PNR skills. Keep Drummond far from this team and how the Mavs play lol

I think Drummond is better. They do different things. I think what this team needs McGee is a better fit. Skill wise I think Drummond offers more. He?s certainly not 14 million better than him.

Originally Posted by BPo001

This is pretty much exactly how I feel. McGee did get a 3 year deal vs 2 for Drummond. Javele fits out needs more than Drummond does.

Agreed. I like what Javale offered last year. I think they are making a mistake starting him however. He had a better 48 minute production coming off the bench than starting.

[saclare]

Also, fucking LOL at the contracts handed out to KAT and Zion. The latter hasn't even earned it and their banking on his fat ass staying healthy and in the gym. Both are dwarfing what Luka will be making and I'd be sick to my stomach if the tables were turned.

$56MM a year for KAT!!!! HAHAHAHAHAH

[BPo001]

Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent guard Ricky Rubio is nearing a deal on a return to the Cleveland Cavaliers, sources tell ESPN. ? via Twitter wojespn

[BPo001]

I know it?s been rumored the Nets don?t want Ayton, but I hope he signs a contract with someone else just so PHX can?t potentially include him in a deal for Durant.

I also don?t understand rumors that KD and Kyrie still want to play together? Why are they both wanting to leave then? I kinda wish Brooklyn would just say tough shit if you want to be traded to KD. You signed a 4 year contract.

[tap2390]

Bruce Brown to Denver on a VERY friendly deal. Would have preferred him to Javale honestly, but you can?t teach size.

[tap2390]

John Hollinger reporting Mavs are likely to S&T JB to NYK in a three way deal including Burks and Noel to the Pistons to create a $12.5m trade exception.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by tap2390

John Hollinger reporting Mavs are likely to S&T JB to NYK in a three way deal including Burks and Noel to the Pistons to create a $12.5m trade exception.

And we'll totally use it just like the Richardson one.

[BPo001]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

And we'll totally use it just like the Richardson one.

I know Nico was part of the FO when that expired, but hopefully he can utilize this one. Hate seeing those assets just go to waste. Certainly someone will become available that can make us better, or at least get a pick for a salary dump.

[JustJay]

Theo Pinson returning to Dallas.

Toronto, Otto Porter Jr. agree on a 2 year deal, 2nd year is a player option

[BPo001]

Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent G Theo Pinson is returning to the Dallas Mavericks on a one-year deal, sources tell ESPN. ? via Twitter wojespn

Khobi Price: The Orlando Magic have agreed to terms on a 2-year deal with Bol Bol, a league source told the @orlandosports. ? via Twitter khobi_price

Shams Charania: Free agent Aaron Holiday has agreed to a one-year deal with the Atlanta Hawks, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. ? via Twitter ShamsCharania

Doug Smith: Raptors make the Thad Young signing official ??He is a smart and versatile player who will continue to provide valuable leadership to our younger players on the court and in the locker room.? ? Bobby Webster in statement ? via Twitter SmithRaps

Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent center Mitchell Robinson has agreed on a new four-year, $60 million contract to stay with the New York Knicks, his agents Thad Foucher and Joe Smith of @Wassbasketball tell ESPN. pic.twitter.com/dnKtVQmln9 ? via Twitter wojespn

[DevinHarriswillstart]

And for anyone wondering about the power of Rick Brunson over Jalen...

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1542882235669532672

The fault is letting daddy manage you like that. Proposing a deal that wasn't even allowed in the CBA certain adds a layer to this mess.

[saclare]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

And for anyone wondering about the power of Rick Brunson over Jalen...

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1542882235669532672

The fault is letting daddy manage you like that. Proposing a deal that wasn't even allowed in the CBA certain adds a layer to this mess.

Brunson was tired of Luka being his daddy

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by saclare

Brunson was tired of Luka being his daddy

Rep.

[Dallas41]

Originally Posted by saclare

Brunson was tired of Luka being his daddy

I know this won't be a popular opinion but both KP and JB wanted more of a bigger role for their futures.

Brunson mighty not have been as vocal as KP but at the end of the day they both wanted the same thing (bigger role/be the lead guy)

Moving forward despite having Luka I just don't think top players are going to flock here unless it's through a trade.

KD never mentioned Dallas

Kyrie might have just stated Dallas because he was throwing teams together but he was never serious about wanting to come here.

Lavine and Beal same situation I just don't think those types of guys will make Dallas their 1st or 2nd choice.

THis stuff happened with Dirk as well and yes we consider Luka a super star but when we say why wouldn't other stars want to play with Luka well I just don't think he has that type of gravit/pull around the league.

Luka is ball dominant and it does take certain type of players to play with him. I do commend JB because he really did a great job adjusting to playing off Luka which most other guys like a Lavine or Beal might not be willing to adjust.

I could be wrong but I feel as if the Mavs will always have to win with depth alongside Luka as opposed to a 2nd star player actually coming here willingly on his own.

This is heady right down the same path as Dirk and we just have to hope that one of these rosters with role players playing out of their minds one year will be enough to get Luka that ring here in Dallas.

[saclare]

Originally Posted by Dallas41

I know this won't be a popular opinion but both KP and JB wanted more of a bigger role for their futures.

Brunson mighty not have been as vocal as KP but at the end of the day they both wanted the same thing (bigger role/be the lead guy)

Moving forward despite having Luka I just don't think top players are going to flock here unless it's through a trade.

KD never mentioned Dallas

Kyrie might have just stated Dallas because he was throwing teams together but he was never serious about wanting to come here.

Lavine and Beal same situation I just don't think those types of guys will make Dallas their 1st or 2nd choice.

THis stuff happened with Dirk as well and yes we consider Luka a super star but when we say why wouldn't other stars want to play with Luka well I just don't think he has that type of gravit/pull around the league.

Luka is ball dominant and it does take certain type of players to play with him. I do commend JB because he really did a great job adjusting to playing off Luka which most other guys like a Lavine or Beal might not be willing to adjust.

I could be wrong but I feel as if the Mavs will always have to win with depth alongside Luka as opposed to a 2nd star player actually coming here willingly on his own.

This is heady right down the same path as Dirk and we just have to hope that one of these rosters with role players playing out of their minds one year will be enough to get Luka that ring here in Dallas.

I can see wanting a bigger role for yourself, don't really care about Brunson at this point. People keep bringing up we could have signed him mid season, just like DoDo. What has been the sole source for that? Rick fucking Brunson..."multiple reports" but all with the same source. I doubt it went down that way...

KD is a bitch and picked the two top seeds as his destinations. He's a ring chaser. For all his talent, I hope he gets looked down upon when it's all said and done when discussing top players of all time.

Kyrie was heavily linked to Dallas, Mavs said fuck no.

Lavine and Beal were never going to sign elsewhere, super maxes exist for a reason and they'd be leaving way too much on the table to go elsewhere. Look for them to be on different teams by year 3 of their respective deals.

I think Beal would actually be a perfect fit to Luka tbh all other players need the ball in their hands to create and succeed. I'm sure he'll be a target in a year or two.

I do think Luka will have more pull than Dirk did just because he's already rubbing elbows in all-star games and events since he's a teenager. And I don't share the same sentiment players won't be enticed to play with a top 3 player in the league and what is becoming one of the more player friendly, top coaching staffs in the league. Mavs will be fine. Need to gain the flexibility back, it will be helpful to be able to trade picks now.

[JustJay]

Originally Posted by saclare

I can see wanting a bigger role for yourself, don't really care about Brunson at this point. People keep bringing up we could have signed him mid season, just like DoDo. What has been the sole source for that? Rick fucking Brunson..."multiple reports" but all with the same source. I doubt it went down that way...

KD is a bitch and picked the two top seeds as his destinations. He's a ring chaser. For all his talent, I hope he gets looked down upon when it's all said and done when discussing top players of all time.

Kyrie was heavily linked to Dallas, Mavs said fuck no.

Lavine and Beal were never going to sign elsewhere, super maxes exist for a reason and they'd be leaving way too much on the table to go elsewhere. Look for them to be on different teams by year 3 of their respective deals.

I think Beal would actually be a perfect fit to Luka tbh all other players need the ball in their hands to create and succeed. I'm sure he'll be a target in a year or two.

I do think Luka will have more pull than Dirk did just because he's already rubbing elbows in all-star games and events since he's a teenager. And I don't share the same sentiment players won't be enticed to play with a top 3 player in the league and what is becoming one of the more player friendly, top coaching staffs in the league. Mavs will be fine. Need to gain the flexibility back, it will be helpful to be able to trade picks now.

So you're saying it's a lie that we didn't offer him 4 years/55 mil. So that means we did offer him 4 years/55 mil and he turned it down. Where are the reports that that happened anywhere? Just give me one. How do you guys seem to know that the source all leads back to Rick Brunson and that he was lying yet you have no proof of your claim.

Per ESPN?s Tim MacMahon, The former Villanova star was eligible to sign a $55.5 million extension with the Mavs last summer, but they never even discussed it with Brunson after his playoff struggles against the Clippers. That said, once he broke out in January and started to thrive, Dallas came calling with the new deal right after the trade deadline in February. However, Brunson simply wanted to finish the season and focus on the task at hand.

[BPo001]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

And for anyone wondering about the power of Rick Brunson over Jalen...

https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1542882235669532672

The fault is letting daddy manage you like that. Proposing a deal that wasn't even allowed in the CBA certain adds a layer to this mess.

Just waiting for the tampering case to be opened. Someone mentioned it earlier, but if NYK traded their 2nd rnd picks to Detroit what is the possible penalty? Fining teams certainly isn?t going to stop anything because it?s pocket change when compared to player salaries.

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by BPo001

Just waiting for the tampering case to be opened. Someone mentioned it earlier, but if NYK traded their 2nd rnd picks to Detroit what is the possible penalty? Fining teams certainly isn?t going to stop anything because it?s pocket change when compared to player salaries.

Reject the signing. Strip the 1st rounder from the Knicks. Give us a 1st rounder after the lottery. There are things the NBA can do to remedy things.

[MFFL]

Originally Posted by BPo001

Just waiting for the tampering case to be opened. Someone mentioned it earlier, but if NYK traded their 2nd rnd picks to Detroit what is the possible penalty? Fining teams certainly isn?t going to stop anything because it?s pocket change when compared to player salaries.

I read that there will probably be tampering charges filed UNLESS Dallas agrees to a sign and trade.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/07/...tampering.html