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Old 04-09-2005, 04:27 PM   #41
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I like my chances okay.
So you ARE Tom DeLay.

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Brooks makes some points but he's also sort of echoing the current conventional wisdom and the current "campaign" to get delay..
You're not paranoid if everyone really IS out to get you, right? The problem for DeLay is that the conventional wisdom is AGAINST him, and it's coming increasingly from the right. The Wall Street Journal isn't to be confused with Mother Jones.

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...and try to prop up the democrats as having something since they have few new ideas or solid principles.
No, Brooks actually did the opposite.

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This does not mean good news for Democrats. That party is at risk of going into a death spiral. The Democrats lost white working-class voters by 23 percentage points in the last election, and now the party is being led by people who are guaranteed to alienate those voters even more: the highly educated and secular university-town elites who follow Howard Dean and believe Bush hatred and stridency are the outward signs of righteousness.

According to a Democracy Corps poll, the Democratic Party's standing has dropped eight percentage points since the election.

Nor does it mean that Republicans should abandon their ideas, but it may be time to think about methods. Public opinion is not always right, but it is always worth respecting. And the message the public seems to be sending these days is that there is a need for prudence. The world is risky enough. Leaders who want to change things had better not give off the impression that they love change for its own sake.
Where do you see him propping up the Democrats in that?
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Old 04-09-2005, 04:37 PM   #42
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Yes.. I am Tom Delay. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

The second part of the sentence was meant not to be this particular brooks column but the current push polling going on by NYTimes, WaPO, etc. Can't help if the WSJ gets into the act once in a while.

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he's also sort of echoing the current "campaign" to get delay and try to prop up the democrats as having something since they have few new ideas or solid principles.
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Obviously as a liberal my opinion about GOP leadership strategy isn't worth much, but they really should consider whether Tom DeLay is worth all this. It was fine when he was just denying the charges, but now he's channeling Hilary Clinton and O.J. Simpson talking about a "Vast Left Wing Conspiracy" out to get him.


The Yankees will win the pennant even without Jason Giambi in the lineup

The Republicans will be the dominant party even without DeLay as majority leader.
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Old 04-10-2005, 06:31 AM   #44
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Yes.. I am Tom Delay. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

The second part of the sentence was meant not to be this particular brooks column but the current push polling going on by NYTimes, WaPO, etc. Can't help if the WSJ gets into the act once in a while.

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he's also sort of echoing the current "campaign" to get delay and try to prop up the democrats as having something since they have few new ideas or solid principles.
itself guilty of "echoing the current campaign" to just blame partianship.

there's clearly bipartisan support for these public embarassments of Delay.
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Old 04-11-2005, 08:16 AM   #45
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Ouch. Santorum punk-slaps DeLay.

Updated: 07:18 AM EDT
DeLay Draws Fire From Fellow Republicans
Congressman Says House Leader 'Hurting' GOP

By LOU KESTEN, AP


"I think [DeLay] has to come forward and lay out what he did and why he did it and let the people then judge for themselves." -- Sen. Rick Santorum



WASHINGTON (April 11) - Embattled House Majority Leader Tom DeLay is drawing heat from some fellow Republicans who say his continuing ethics problems are harming the GOP.

''Tom's conduct is hurting the Republican Party, is hurting this Republican majority and it is hurting any Republican who is up for re-election,'' Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Conn., told The Associated Press on Sunday.

DeLay, R-Texas, has been dogged in recent months by reports of possible ethics violations. There have been questions about his overseas travel, campaign payments to family members and his connections to lobbyists who are under investigation.

Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, the No. 3 Republican in the Senate, said Sunday that DeLay needs to answer questions about his ethics.

''I think he has to come forward and lay out what he did and why he did it and let the people then judge for themselves,'' Santorum told ABC's ''This Week.'' ''But from everything I've heard, again, from the comments and responding to those, is everything he's done was according to the law.

''Now you may not like some of the things he's done,'' Santorum said. ''That's for the people of his district to decide, whether they want to approve that kind of behavior or not.''

DeLay's spokesman, Dan Allen, told the AP that the congressman ''looks forward to the opportunity of sitting down with the ethics committee chairman and ranking member to get the facts out and to dispel the fiction and innuendo that's being launched at him by House Democrats and their liberal allies.''

The majority leader was admonished three times last year by the House ethics committee. The panel has been in limbo since March, when its five Democrats balked at adopting Republican-developed rules.

Shays, a moderate who has battled the GOP leadership on a number of issues, said efforts by House Republicans to change ethics rules to protect DeLay only make the party look bad.

''My party is going to have to decide whether we are going to continue to make excuses for Tom to the detriment of Republicans seeking election,'' he said.

House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said last week that the controversy was distracting DeLay from dealing with more pressing problems before Congress.

Santorum, however, said DeLay is ''very effective in leading the House'' and ''to date, has not been compromised.''

A senior Democratic senator, Christopher Dodd of Connecticut, had this advice for the Republicans who control both the House and Senate: ''Be careful about how closely you embrace Mr. DeLay.''

DeLay is ''the poster child for a lot of the things the Democrats think are wrong about Republican leadership. As long as he's there, he's going to become a pretty good target,'' Dodd said on ABC.
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