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Old 04-10-2004, 09:51 PM   #1
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This is IT?? This is what Ben Veniste was so worked up about?? Lame.

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Text of the President's Daily Brief for Aug. 6, 2001

Following is the text of the president's daily brief for Aug. 6, 2001, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.," as provided by the White House. Omitted material is indicated by ellipses.

Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate bin Laden since 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the U.S. Bin Laden implied in U.S. television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and "bring the fighting to America."

After U.S. missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, bin Laden told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a . . . service.

An Egyptian Islamic Jihad (E.I.J.) operative told an . . . service at the same time that bin Laden was planning to exploit the operative's access to the U.S. to mount a terrorist strike.

The millennium plotting in Canada in 1999 may have been part of bin Laden's first serious attempt to implement a terrorist strike in the U.S. Convicted plotter Ahmed Ressam has told the F.B.I. that he conceived the idea to attack Los Angeles International Airport himself, but that bin Laden lieutenant Abu Zubaydah encouraged him and helped facilitate the operation. Ressam also said that in 1998 Abu Zubaydah was planning his own U.S. attack.

Ressam says bin Laden was aware of the Los Angeles operation.

Although bin Laden has not succeeded, his attacks against the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 demonstrate that he prepares operations years in advance and is not deterred by setbacks. Bin Laden associates surveilled our embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam as early as 1993, and some members of the Nairobi cell planning the bombings were arrested and deported in 1997.

Al Qaeda members — including some who are U.S. citizens — have resided in or traveled to the U.S. for years, and the group apparently maintains a support structure that could aid attacks. Two Al Qaeda members found guilty in the conspiracy to bomb our embassies in East Africa were U.S. citizens, and a senior E.I.J. member lived in California in the mid-1990's.

A clandestine source said in 1998 that a bin Laden cell in New York was recruiting Muslim-American youth for attacks.

We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a . . . service in 1998 saying that bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Sheik" Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.

Nevertheless, F.B.I. information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

The F.B.I. is conducting approximately 70 full field investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers bin Laden-related. C.I.A. and the F.B.I. are investigating a call to our embassy in the U.A.E. in May saying that a group of bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives.
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Old 04-12-2004, 02:27 PM   #2
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I'm surprised no comment has been made on this thread.

I have a couple of questions for anybody that will answer them:

1. Does anybody think that the Bush administration bears the blame for 9/11? That is, does anybody think that it could have been prevented by the Bush administration?

2. If so, what's the basis for your belief that the Bush administration could have prevented it from happening?


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Old 04-12-2004, 02:40 PM   #3
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I'm surprised no comment has been made on this thread.

I have a couple of questions for anybody that will answer them:

1. Does anybody think that the Bush administration bears the blame for 9/11? That is, does anybody think that it could have been prevented by the Bush administration?
No, IMHO the only ones who bear blame are the terrorists. I also believe that the only way that the terrorists could have been stopped is if they were foolish or we got lucky.

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2. If so, what's the basis for your belief that the Bush administration could have prevented it from happening?
Guess I don't have to answer this one then [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
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Mavdog - I have a follow-up question then. Do you have any problem with the measures that Bush is taking domestically (setting aside Iraq for a moment) to prevent future attacks?

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Mavdog - I have a follow-up question then. Do you have any problem with the measures that Bush is taking domestically (setting aside Iraq for a moment) to prevent future attacks?
I see the patriot Act as having gone too far in its granting government the right to "spy" on citizens w/o prior judicial review.

So how do you feel KG?
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Although I will profess that I don't have a thorough working knowledge of all that the Patriot Act entails, I generally think it went a bit too far in terms of what law enforcement agencies are now allowed to do to collect information regarding suspected terrorist activities, primarily because many things could be classified as "suspected terrorist activities" just so that information can be legally collected.

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Although I will profess that I don't have a thorough working knowledge of all that the Patriot Act entails, I generally think it went a bit too far in terms of what law enforcement agencies are now allowed to do to collect information regarding suspected terrorist activities, primarily because many things could be classified as "suspected terrorist activities" just so that information can be legally collected.
and the first two questions that you asked?
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I don't think the Bush administration could have done anything that would have stopped it, and I can't imagine why his opponents are choosing to suggest that he could have. It seems like poor strategy to me.

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