2014 Offseason Thread

[spreedom]

Young guy that averages 13/9 with 2-3 assists per game... I think that's almost always a max player these days. I don't thinki it's a huge overpay unless he does absolutely nothing to improve over the course of the contract.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by spreedom

Young guy that averages 13/9 with 2-3 assists per game... I think that's almost always a max player these days. I don't thinki it's a huge overpay unless he does absolutely nothing to improve over the course of the contract.

If by "these days" you mean 2002, then I'm with you. New CBA says you can't pay a solid journeyman that kind of cash and expect to have a team worth beans.

[Floppy]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

If by "these days" you mean 2002, then I'm with you. New CBA says you can't pay a solid journeyman that kind of cash and expect to have a team worth beans.

How is he a journeyman ? He will be 25 the start of his 5th season ..I also don't buy anything with the new CBA nothing has shown that teams aren't still willing to spend especially now after the Clippers sales price and the cap going up $5 Million

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Floppy

How is he a journeyman ? He will be 25 the start of his 5th season ..I also don't buy anything with the new CBA nothing has shown that teams aren't still willing to spend especially now after the Clippers sales price and the cap going up $5 Million

You give Dirk 12mill, Marion 7mill, you are sitting at around 54mill. That gives us about 9 mill in cap space, meaning that we may not even be able to sign Monroe to what he might get.

Now let's pretend we let Marion walk and give Dirk 10mill/year (like Duncan got). Then we have a trim roster and roughly 18 mill to work with. If we give Monroe the max, he gets 15.8mill and we have about 2.2mill to fill out the rest of the roster, including signing Harris. If harris gets 2.2m a year, then that is all of our cap space and we only have draftees and min guys.

Monroe/Dalembert
Dirk/Wright
Ellington
Ellis
Harris/Calderon
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Ledo, Larkin, Mekel, 34th pick, 51st pick

That's a thin team right there, because we overpaid for Monroe.

That's why we can't pay that much for a guy who is just solid.

[hayth.james.g]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

You give Dirk 12mill, Marion 7mill, you are sitting at around 54mill. That gives us about 9 mill in cap space, meaning that we may not even be able to sign Monroe to what he might get.

Now let's pretend we let Marion walk and give Dirk 10mill/year (like Duncan got). Then we have a trim roster and roughly 18 mill to work with. If we give Monroe the max, he gets 15.8mill and we have about 2.2mill to fill out the rest of the roster, including signing Harris. If harris gets 2.2m a year, then that is all of our cap space and we only have draftees and min guys.

Monroe/Dalembert
Dirk/Wright
Ellington
Ellis
Harris/Calderon
-----------
Ledo, Larkin, Mekel, 34th pick, 51st pick

That's a thin team right there, because we overpaid for Monroe.

That's why we can't pay that much for a guy who is just solid.

Uh... Marion will not be getting anywhere close to 7 million.

[Floppy]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

You give Dirk 12mill, Marion 7mill, you are sitting at around 54mill. That gives us about 9 mill in cap space, meaning that we may not even be able to sign Monroe to what he might get.

Now let's pretend we let Marion walk and give Dirk 10mill/year (like Duncan got). Then we have a trim roster and roughly 18 mill to work with. If we give Monroe the max, he gets 15.8mill and we have about 2.2mill to fill out the rest of the roster, including signing Harris. If harris gets 2.2m a year, then that is all of our cap space and we only have draftees and min guys.

Monroe/Dalembert
Dirk/Wright
Ellington
Ellis
Harris/Calderon
-----------
Ledo, Larkin, Mekel, 34th pick, 51st pick

That's a thin team right there, because we overpaid for Monroe.

That's why we can't pay that much for a guy who is just solid.

Where are you getting your numbers from ? If you give Dirk $10 Million that brings our salary up to $42,232,100 which includes both 2nd Rd Picks

So with these players

Calderon / Larkin / Mekel
Ellis / Ellington / Ledo
Crowder
Dirk
Dalemebert / Wright
#34 / #51


Leaves $20,967,900 In Cap space with a $63.2 Million Cap


If they don't use Ellington as part of a package with other players ( Wright / Mekel ) for another player then I think its a good chance Ellington is traded with $3 Million Cash for cap space .. Giving the Mavs $23.9 Million in Cap space . That leaves enough to sign Monroe Max $15.8 Million or less + Ariza $8 Million

I doubt Harris comes back for $2.2 Million . I think he wants more than $3 Million so Larkin may be the backup PG next year . If so then you still have the $2.7 Million Room exception for Carter


PG-Calderon / Larkin / Mekel
SG-Ellis / Carter / Ledo
SF-Ariza / Crowder / 34th Pick
PF-Dirk / Wright / 51st Pick
C-Monroe / Dalembert / Vet Min


I highly doubt the Mavs bring back Marion for $7 Million .. At least I sure as shit hope not .

[Floppy]

Originally Posted by spreedom

Young guy that averages 13/9 with 2-3 assists per game... I think that's almost always a max player these days. I don't thinki it's a huge overpay unless he does absolutely nothing to improve over the course of the contract.

Monroe averaged 15.2 PPG 9.3 RPG 2.1 APG this year