11-13-2004, 09:37 PM
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Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
"Up here in the clouds, I'm still savoring the victory, although there is one tiny dark cloud on the horizon. Karl, I'm certain, will be suspended for an incident involving Steve Nash. Early in the third quarter, trying to knock a rebound out of Karl's hands, Nash was met with an elbow to the chops. I leaped off the bench immediately, which for me in a regular season contest is about as frequent an occurence as a Shaquille three pointer. I was screaming for a foul on Nash, so when the official called it on Karl, I picked up a technical foul, my second of the year, normally about my limit for an entire season. I used to acquire Ts more routinely but then it dawned on me that all I was doing was giving free points to the opposition. Sure, maybe you'll get a call later in the game, and I can see occasions when a technical may send a message to your team, but there's a manipulative aspect to such outbursts that offend an old-fashioned purist like myself. I will argue for calls that should have gone our way, but there is a line that I will not cross. The game, whatever else, it may signify, is just that a game. Many coaches adopt a much different view. Nellie, for instance, when his team was stinking up the joint used to tell the refs: "Throw me out of this game, I'm going to call you a c***sucker and a motherf*****. Now throw me out, I can't stand my team." The refs didn't always submit. "I'm not throwing you out," one might say. "You're going to have to watch this s*** yourself." Nellie would still find a way to get thrown out, jump in a cab, and be in his hotel room before the game was over."
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11-13-2004, 09:52 PM
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RE:Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
when Karl Malone elboed Nash hard enough to kill the root of one of his teeth, Jack-zen wanted a foul on Nash?!?
Pretty harsh criticism of Nelson coming directly after a statement of stupidity like that Malone thing.
"Nash was met with an elbow to the chops" nice use of passive tense. Say that Malone was dirty as he always has been.
Anyway, that excerpt makes Nelson sound even more imbalanced than I've ever heard. If its true, Im certainly glad that we picked up Avery Johnson to balance out the leadership. If it isnt true, then Jackson has a lot o' 'splainin' ta do.
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11-13-2004, 10:29 PM
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RE:Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
Would you leave many games if you had either Jordan or Shaq on your team your entire coaching career? Talk about polar opposites. I am starting to wonder if there really is a person named Charley Rosen, if that is just Phil's pen name. Or did Rosen ghost write this book?
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11-13-2004, 10:36 PM
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RE: Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
The bit about Nellie doesn't surprise me. I've known he tries to get himself thrown out of games sometimes. The bit about the Malone/Nash incident, however, disgusts me.
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11-14-2004, 12:22 AM
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RE: Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
Phil dares to attack the methods of Norman Dale? I don't see Phil with any Indiana High School state championships.
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11-14-2004, 02:32 AM
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RE:Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
technically it is a foul when you are bodying someone who had just grabbed a rebound no? i was always taught to hold the ball up high with your elbows out while playing in the post.. im not saying karl malone is not a dirty player because he definitely is, but if anything that should not have been a foul on karl or at least should have been a no call=\
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11-14-2004, 02:36 AM
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RE:Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
It was a foul when he took that elbow and purposely swung it into Steve Nash' jaw. He didnt get the foul on the rebound. Jackson was complaining about the foul when he knocked Nash' tooth loose after he rebounded.
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11-14-2004, 02:42 AM
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RE:Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
okay, purposely elbowing someone while trying to create space for yourself (malone, barkley) is definitely a foul.. but traitor shouldnt have been there in the first place? no i am not defending karl or phil just to make myself clear =]
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11-14-2004, 02:42 AM
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RE:Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
btw, u need to switch out booth's face and replace it with hendu's in your picture =p
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11-14-2004, 03:02 AM
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RE:Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
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Originally posted by: alby
btw, u need to switch out booth's face and replace it with hendu's in your picture =p
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last time I checked, it wasnt a public picture. It's a picture that I made that is on my signature. Sorry if its offending you.
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11-14-2004, 03:09 AM
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RE:Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
wow, it was a joke.. about how we traded for booth and he isnt even playing and we thought that the injury-riddled, over the hill henderson was done and was just another name in the JET trade.. but im sorry to offend you, my bad lol..
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11-14-2004, 03:10 AM
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RE:Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
wow.
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11-14-2004, 07:39 AM
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RE: Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
About the Nash foul - I've seen the same play happen before with a player crowding a rebounder and getting elbowed and if IRC, the correct call would have been a foul on Nash and a double technical on Malone.
I think you have to allow a rebounder space to turn around, but any elbow/face contact is supposed to be an automatic ejection. Phil's not completely wrong - but not completely right either.
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11-14-2004, 08:39 AM
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RE: Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
alby, i agree, wow...
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11-14-2004, 11:17 AM
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RE:Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
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Originally posted by: EricaLubarsky
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btw, u need to switch out booth's face and replace it with hendu's in your picture =p
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last time I checked, it wasnt a public picture. It's a picture that I made that is on my signature. Sorry if its offending you.
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whoa..easy there..
did you not see the =p at the end??
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11-14-2004, 12:29 PM
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RE:Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
Doesn't suprise me. Nellie knows when he gets ejected and the Mavs are down their chances of winning are better than when he is in the game coaching. Nellie only does when the Mavs are playing horrible and the game looks like a reach.
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11-14-2004, 02:20 PM
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RE: Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
erica, don't be such a (edited by a Dallas-Mavs.com moderator).
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11-14-2004, 05:50 PM
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RE: Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
i think it's funny, personally.
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11-14-2004, 09:27 PM
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RE: Funny comment about Nellie in Phil Jackson's book
end don't you know? She owns this website and you are on her turf! You better recognize beeyotch!
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